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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#1: Jun 17th 2020 at 8:04:52 AM

I'm not sure who this guy is. With his red-and-gold color scheme he looks more angry than evil, and judging by his pose he looks more like a monk than a sorcerer (he looks like he's about to physically assault someone). So that strikes me as JAFAAC rather than this trope.

A better example, last panel (or crop thereof), or some panels of this.

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#3: Jun 17th 2020 at 6:06:16 PM

Eh, I say Keep Until Better Image Suggested. There's enough visual cues for me, and the suggestions don't do it for me.

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#4: Jun 17th 2020 at 7:50:25 PM

The arguments against the current strike me as red paint. The hands are positioned palm-down, which to me indicates "about to do something dramatic like cast a spell" more than "strike someone". The evil sorcerer in the last panel of 1.1 has the same red gold and "dark" color scheme, and is not as in focus. I find the art style of 1.2 much less clear.

I suppose a crop of 1.1 might be in an improvement as the magic is clearer and he's saying something befitting an evil sorcerer, but I'm not sure.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/sorcerer1.png

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#5: Jun 17th 2020 at 7:57:32 PM

[up]As tired as I am of webcomic images, that works by clearly showing him performing magic.

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#6: Jun 17th 2020 at 8:41:46 PM

Some Maleficent images:

[1]

[2] (if cropped)

[3]

Edited by jandn2014 on Jun 18th 2020 at 10:44:15 AM

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#7: Jun 17th 2020 at 8:42:39 PM

We also have Jafar:

[1][2]

Edited by Adept on Jun 17th 2020 at 11:45:57 PM

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#8: Jun 17th 2020 at 9:39:12 PM

[up] 7.1 is my favorite.

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#10: Jun 18th 2020 at 12:58:32 AM

Nice examples! That's a tough choice for me between 4.1, 6.3, and 7.1.

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#11: Jun 18th 2020 at 4:31:40 AM

There are a lot of good ones here. I like 7.1 the best.

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#12: Jun 18th 2020 at 5:00:34 AM

7'1. Is excellent

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#13: Jun 18th 2020 at 10:18:08 AM

I'll go with 7.1 just to choose something.

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#16: Jun 18th 2020 at 1:22:17 PM

As tired as I am of webcomic images, that works by clearly showing him performing magic.
That's honestly a point against it for me. Even when these characters can shoot Hand Blasts, their main threat comes from more subtle and sinister abilities - not combat skill, but influence and control (whether that be minions who can capture territory, or just the ability to screw with peoples' heads). Take that away and it's not an evil sorcerer, just an evil mage.

The existing image gets the sinister vibe across, as does 7.2 (Jafar toying with Aladdin). Though if you want obvious spellcasting, this pic of a Magic by Any Other Name Evil Sorceror might work.

So my votes would be 16.1, then original image, then 7.2, then 6.3.

Edited by Prime32 on Jun 18th 2020 at 9:28:15 AM

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#17: Jun 19th 2020 at 3:24:33 AM

[up] What you describe here is not this trope, though. The trope description explicitly points out that the evil sorcerer usually has better combat skills than the heroes (except hand-to-hand, obviously), so energy blasts are entirely appropriate.

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#18: Jun 19th 2020 at 6:52:16 PM

7.1 is pretty good, but I really like 9.1 as well.

[down] Yes; thanks for catching that. I’ve corrected my vote.

Edited by Willbyr on Jun 20th 2020 at 5:59:45 AM

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#19: Jun 20th 2020 at 1:00:00 AM

[up]When you said 8.1, did you mean 9.1? Post 8 doesn't have any images in it.

Anyway, I prefer 7.1 so far.

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#20: Jun 25th 2020 at 11:22:02 AM

Crowner?

Why so serious?
Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#21: Jun 26th 2020 at 3:16:39 AM

Looks like strong consensus for 7.1 to me.

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#22: Jun 29th 2020 at 8:05:46 AM

I actually find 7.1. to be one of the poorer suggestions because of composition.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/a984d3a948a14719eec8fed280e6e1a2.png

Edited by Morgenthaler on Jun 29th 2020 at 8:06:50 AM

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#24: Jun 29th 2020 at 11:17:14 AM

[up] I tend to agree, 7.1 is really dark in the literal sense and that makes the staff far more prominent than Jafar himself. My preference goes to 4.1, 9.1 and 22.

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#25: Jun 29th 2020 at 11:30:10 AM

22 is pretty good.

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