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#27: Jul 14th 2020 at 5:16:02 AM

There is a redirect called Glitch Character too. One question I have, this page has over 8000 inbounds does that say that it has become a defined term for this thing?

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#28: Jul 14th 2020 at 10:49:55 AM

I think it's more likely people thought it was about the actual Missingno, like a lot of the site itself did.

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#29: Jul 14th 2020 at 4:58:20 PM

I prefer the name Glitch Entity since Glitch Sprite can easily be confused for an existing character or item's sprite becoming distorted due to a glitch. And this trope can sometimes just be a glitched item in the menu that doesn't have a sprite.

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#30: Jul 14th 2020 at 9:27:51 PM

[up][up][up]The Trope Namer is a very well-known video game glitch, so as WarJay said, a lot of inbounds probably mistakenly thought the page was about the trope namer specifically rather than also covering other glitches.

As for whether this is a preexisting term, I've only ever seen the name Missingno. used in the context of the Trope Namer and and as a Fan Nickname for glitch Pokémon from later installments of the Pokémon series (mainly Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire). I've never seen the name applied to glitch characters from other series, and I've never seen the name used at all for glitch items, even from the Pokémon series.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 15th 2020 at 4:16:17 AM

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#31: Jul 16th 2020 at 9:32:43 AM

[up]Yep. Never heard it aside from as a reference or deliberate Shout-Out to Pokemon.

[tup]Glitch Entity.

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#33: Jul 17th 2020 at 11:41:22 AM

As mentioned, Glitch Sprite sounds more like "any time a sprite is glitched"

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#34: Jul 17th 2020 at 1:49:09 PM

Is it possible to hook the crowner I posted a week ago?

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#35: Aug 17th 2020 at 2:03:16 AM

Attached the crowner.

Re: inbounds: From Googleing this it looks like it's sometimes used as a reference to the character and sometimes more generally. Probably worth a disambiguation.

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#36: Aug 20th 2020 at 3:32:11 PM

It's been three days since the crowner was attached and the consensus to rename is 19:3.

Edited by ADrago on Aug 20th 2020 at 6:32:33 AM

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#37: Aug 20th 2020 at 4:06:13 PM

Calling crowner. Let's compile a list of possible new names; maybe an alt names crowner.

Edited by Berrenta on Aug 20th 2020 at 6:06:48 AM

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#38: Aug 20th 2020 at 4:10:24 PM

Would "Glitch-Created Character" work as an option?

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#40: Aug 21st 2020 at 1:18:18 AM

As was mentioned previously, this isn't specific to glitch characters, which is why I previously said I supported the name Glitch Entity (though I think Glitch Character and Glitch Item would be fine as redirects). Glitch items also count. As I previously mentioned, Pokémon Red and Blue, which provided the name The Missingno, have plenty of glitch items in addition to glitch characters. Said glitch items usually don't have sprites, so the name Glitch Sprite — which as previously mentioned (though not by me), sounds like a term for corrupted graphics for non-glitch game elements — doesn't work for them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 21st 2020 at 4:14:10 AM

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#41: Aug 21st 2020 at 1:43:18 PM

Honestly, I'm thinking Glitch Item and Glitch Sprite should be their own tropes.

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#42: Aug 21st 2020 at 1:55:12 PM

[up]Why? I don't think there's any real distinction...the idea is a glitch creates something that isn't supposed to exist in the game.

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#43: Aug 21st 2020 at 3:42:26 PM

[up] Honestly, I think that might make more sense as an overarching concept or a Super-Trope. You might disagree, but I think it would make the most sense to distinguish between "character that only exists because of a glitch", "item that only exists because of a glitch" and "sprite/model that was corrupted by a glitch".

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#44: Aug 21st 2020 at 4:12:01 PM

Maybe a soft split? I can see the distinction being interesting and maybe even noteworthy, but it's not a tropeworthy distinction since the "meaning" is still the same.

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#47: Aug 22nd 2020 at 10:18:51 AM

[up] Was that not what WarJay meant by "soft-splitting"?

Edited by FernandoLemon on Aug 22nd 2020 at 2:19:08 PM

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#48: Sep 24th 2020 at 4:20:43 AM

Attached the alt names crowner.

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#49: Oct 1st 2020 at 8:38:52 PM

Calling in favor of Glitch Entity. Glitch Character can be kept as a redirect.

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#50: Oct 1st 2020 at 8:52:56 PM

Move done; description and some non-Trope Namer entries adjusted accordingly.

274 wicks, including 58 from the unmoved redirect. We can leave wicks for Glitch Character alone unless it's used as a trope listing.

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The Missingno is frequently misused. Should it be renamed?

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