Death Battle cleanup

The third and fourth-to-last sentences come off as run-on sentences to me. It otherwise looks good imo.

I don't think they're run-on sentences. How would you rewrite them?

I checked your text using Scribens, and it turns out the second sentence is also a run-on sentence. For the record, I personally would combine the first part of the second sentence with the first one, which would make the first two sentences look like:

As for the others, I would rewrite them as:

I would like to preface this by saying that my grasp of English grammar is mostly instinctive, so while I feel very confident in my ability to follow the rules of grammar while writing sentences, I struggle a bit more at analyzing what I wrote and understanding the terminology of linguistics. I'm doing my best here, but I might still say something stupid.

To me, this feel like more of a run-on sentence than what I wrote. It starts off by saying En Sabah Nur easily counters everything Teth-Adam can throw at him, then suddenly veers into saying that they're both evenly matched in terms of stats, a statement that feels disjointed from what the sentence started off saying.

In my writeup, the first sentence is simply meant to introduce the concept of the episode and that it's a stomp. The second sentence is where I start laying down the argument for why it counts by saying that DESPITE them both being evenly matched in stats, Apocalypse's varied powers meant he still had the advantage (rather than it being an even fight). Them having even stats is only relevant to the second sentence, not the first one.

This also doesn't feel like an improvement. Again, the sentence I wrote is meant to explain why one possible advantage Black Adam has would not actually work out, so I start out by explaining what that "advantage" is, then what Apocalypse can do to nullify it. I feel like having both of these elements be part of the same sentence flows better than coming to a hard stop before explaining Apocalypse's counter in a separate sentence. "Period However" is not necessarily an improvement over "comma but".

The point of the sentence is to explain how the animation reflects the one-sidedness of the matchup. "The animation is one-sided because of this AND that" reads better than "The animation is one-sided because of this. Also, because of that."

...I put way too much effort into this. But I think the moral of the story here is, don't blindly trust grammar-checking software, because the English language is far too complex for a program to grasp all of its nuances.

I actually didn't use Scribens for the first message. Actually, from my experience, it's best to not put too much trust in stuff like that and I do try not to. This is why I only use it to check if there are run-on sentences. I also still mainly use it when I'm wondering if that's the case and not just for anything I check. Therefore, please don't make assumptions like that on my writing, it's annoying tbh.

On second thought, for the first thing, maybe use "comma but". I think the others are fine; "but" and "however" are synonyms plus run-on sentences are considered grammar mistakes.

EDIT: Also, if I had to be honest, I think you're overthinking the changes I suggested.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Oct 10th 2022 at 2:49:09 AM

So wait, if the animation is also a factor into a curbstomp entry, why isn't Black Panther vs. Batman not an entry?

Given how were discussing Black Adam vs. Apocalypse where the latter literally suffered nary a scratch in the end and was in complete control, you could say the same for Black Panther, Batman couldn't land a meaningful hit all fight and was forced to run away and lay a trap. Black Panther even no sold a few of Batman's attacks. The discussion brings up how Batman could contend with Black Panther's natural stats, he just did not have an answer to the Vibranium at all, leaving Batman with no hope of victory.

What makes this different from something like Madara vs. Aizen, where they were completely even in stats and Madara negating any hope for Aizen's victory?

I'm pretty sure the newest announcement from Trunks Vs Silver can easily shock everyone enough to add him to Unexpected Character.

• Spongebob Squarepants is an opponent that no one expected to show up on DEATH BATTLE!. And while the few that did expect him to actually show up expected him to fight another cartoon character like Gumball, no one was expecting him to fight Aquaman of all characters, letalone the one from Superfriends.

Edited by Blade84 on Oct 3rd 2022 at 10:25:35 AM

Seriously, who expected Spongebob to fight Superfriends Aquaman, y'know, the very version that spawned the "Aquaman is useless" jokes? Spongebob showing up to DEATH BATTLE is definitely a wtf moment and one of the last characters most of us expect to appear.

The animation and analysis are considered separately. Some fights are described as stomps, but have a close animation. Some fights could go either way, but the animation is one-sided. And some, like Apocalypse VS Black Adam, are stomps in both the animation and analysis.

Yeah, that's probably the most out-there fight yet, possibly in the entire show. Both combatants are absolutely unexpected.

Also, I don't think Trunks VS Silver counts as a stomp, as the analysis does say that Trunks can win in some situations.

Is SpongeBob really unexpected? He’s one of the most famous media characters of all time, and he’s shown to be pretty skilled in fighting, even if he doesn’t do it usually. The show has had characters like Yoshi and Dig Dug back in season 1, so Sponge showing up was basically inevitable.

Maybe the matchup was unexpected at least?

While SpongeBob does get into fights sometimes, he's still from a show that has very little action or combat in it overall. He's not defined by his fighting skills at all; some episodes have him struggle to lift teddy bears or a glass of juice, while others show him dragging a massive ship behind him. Even if some people may have wanted him on the show, a lot of others never considered him, or thought that there was no way he'd actually make it.

Comparing SpongeBob to Yoshi and Dig Dug isn't really fair, as these characters originate from action video games, so combat is an important part of what they do. A better comparison would be the My Little Pony characters, but even then, that show has always had a fair amount of action sequences and establishes a somewhat consistent power scale and set of abilities for its cast.

Spongebob was a fairly common joke suggestion, all things considered. He just wasn't suggested seriously very often.

...now that I think about it, a better comparison for SpongeBob would be Smokey VS McGruff... who also probably belong under Unexpected Character. The other weirdest matchup is Justin VS Rebecca, but I wouldn't consider that one unexpected because of Early Instalment Weirdness and the fact that the show was too new for people to really have expectations about it at the time.

In The Woobie section, please change the "s" in "Luigi is in a perpetual state of fear and s never recognized," to "is". That's just silly.

You should use the locked page edit request thread to ask for typo correction and other stuff that doesn't need to be discussed.

Any other comments on the Apocalypse VS Black Adam Curb-Stomp Battle example?

Looks good to me.

Just wondering, are you referring to the original one or the changes I suggested? (EDIT: Or the entry overall with both in mind?) I'm just curious because it's not really clear to me.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Oct 11th 2022 at 5:47:23 AM

To be honest, I don't really agree with the changes you proposed. So I guess we should try to get other people to chime in on which version they prefer.

I was just fixing grammar mistakes because run-on sentences are considered just that.

Alright, SpongeBob SquarePants VS Superfriends Aquaman was a complete stomp. It was even outright stated in the post-fight analysis that it was absurdly one-sided in SpongeBob's favor. The comparison slide doesn't even hide how lopsided it was.

But I do have a question about the hosts admitting Aquaman will lose right at the end of his analysis and just before the animation starts (Wiz saying there's only one possibility and Boomstick saying "IT'S TIME FOR AQUAMAN's FUNERAAAAAAL"). Would this fight still count as an example of Curb-Stomp Battle even if it's a Foregone Conclusion?

Edited by Mari0Boss on Oct 17th 2022 at 12:38:00 PM

I'm pretty sure it's EASY to say that Spongebob VS Aquaman belongs in the Curb-Stomp Battle page, like, there was NO hiding it. Feel free to edit this if you need a more streamlined version.

• Spongebob VS Aquaman turned out to be one of the most brutal stomps in the show's history, with the infamous Super Friends Aquaman proving why he was the page image for Adaptational Wimp. While he did measure up a good lot more than Wiz and Boomstick expected, his power and speed paled in comparison to Spongebob's when he pulled apart his universe by a thread, with his speed in particular being the highest calculated speed in the series thus far, meaning that no matter what Aquaman did, Spongebob could just land a One-Hit Kill the millisecond the fight began. And even if he could land a heavy hit on Spongebob, he had no way of getting past the sea sponge's insane regeneration. Also, a potential method of victory he had, his telepathy if it could actually mind control aquatic beings, was countered thanks to Spongebob's Krabby Patties being able to free people from mind control. On top of that, Spongebob's incredible Toon Physics and fourth-wall awareness meant that he could effectively reality warp the fight to go any way he wanted. Even the animation and the hosts didn't sugarcoat how screwed Aquaman was from the start, with Boomstick replacing his usual Death Battle chant with "It's time for Aquaman's funeral!", and the animation having Aquaman bloodied after taking a single hit from Spongebob.

I'd think it should also make mention that even in other noteworthy fights on the Curb-Stomp Battle page like Homelander vs. Omni-Man, the loser did at least have at least one somewhat reliable advantage (in Homelander's case, he could at least somewhat abuse one of Nolan's weaknesses via his sonic scream), whereas Aquaman didn't even have that. (In the advantages and disadvantages section, Aquaman's only listed advantage is "Won the moral victory?", whereas his disadvantage listed is "everything else lmao"). To that end, I think it's even more lopsided than Homelander vs. Omni-Man, and arguably the biggest stomp in the entire series.

Edited by Neosonic97 on Oct 17th 2022 at 11:00:36 AM

Think we should also mention how the post-fight analysis has Wiz outright defy the infamous "This was an extremely close match." comment.