Needs Help: Animal Jingoism

The current image is a Meme based picture.

And it's not really illustrative to boot...I'd be fine with pulling it.

Yep, pull it.

The obvious one.

Pull current.

Question: At what point does an image become "meme-based" and unusable for our purposes?

Already on Cats & Dogs.

Pull current.

It's not an Image Macro, so Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

This one's kinda borderline, in that the pic is the source of a meme but isn't an image macro in and of itself. I'm just not feeling it as the page pic.

Edited by Willbyr on Oct 12th 2018 at 2:11:54 PM

Images like the ones on My Greatest Failure and Didn't Think This Through are also the source of memes, so I don't think that's a problem.

I think 4 is more illustrative than current.

4 is already on Cats & Dogs. I don't see how the current isn't illustrative: it shows a cat and dog as enemies.

I'm fine with keeping current tbh.

According to the rules here meme pictures are not allowed, which I why I used that as a reason to pull the image. I personally also think the image is low quality.

As for a replacement, maybe something from The Lion King or Bolt?

My question was about the definition of "meme-based". Is any occurrence on the internet enough. How do we measure the popularity of an image macro?

There are other questionable examples on our site, so a guideline for future discussions would be appreciated.

I think the term 'meme-based' was from a time when most memes on the internet were in the vein of demotivational posters/trollfaces/Cheezburger lolcats/those low-quality insertable-text-macros ala Scumbag Steve (those are still a hard no). I'm personally more inclined to give memes now (funny, somewhat relatable images) a pass so long as they're illustrative.

Regardless, I said 4 was more illustrative than current since it's got more dogs and cats lined up in an obviously conflicting pose; didn't know it was already on the work page. Current is actually a Keep Until Better Image Suggested case but I think we can do better.

Edited by Synchronicity on Oct 13th 2018 at 11:16:51 AM

I agree.

Wouldn't Cats & Dogs fit better under Cat/Dog Dichotomy? I was under the impression that was a dog and cat centric sub-trope to Animal Jingoism.

I think that is more about pitting cats and dogs as opposites, while Animal Jingoism covers their supposed rivalry.

Replacement suggestion for Animal Jingoism: Tom and Jerry?

^ Needs a second image to complete the "mutual hatred" aspect.

The quality is somewhat shoddy: