The Mod with the Migraine
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Chaotic Greedy
Also: the flu is transitory. A disability sticks with you until your death, defines your character and shapes your very existence, especially if you were born with it.
That's why a disability deviates from the fabled "normal" far more than the flu.
Edit: also, to say "it's normal to have flu" is true only with the expectation of having flu for a limited time. Having flu all your life is not normal.
edited 7th Jun '18 8:26:57 AM by Medinoc
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
In general you don't insult people with "You have life long disease" Then again, some people do use diabetes as insult
Anyway, as I said before and Fighteer summed up, "normal" isn't used in general conversation to refer to "baseline", normal has value judgment attributed to it.
Chaotic Greedy
Yes, when people say "different", they actually mean "inferior" when talking about others, or "superior" when talking about themselves.
Edit: Also, I'm not convinced I've never heard/seen "Parkinson" as an insult.
edited 7th Jun '18 8:46:43 AM by Medinoc
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Parkinson is neurological disease, what I mean is that I almost never hear anyone using physical illnesses as insults outside of some really specific ones. Meanwhile, all neurological or mental illnesses are considered free game for insults
Like reflections in the glass!
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it being or sounding like a semi-common name might have something to do with it.
edited 7th Jun '18 8:50:48 AM by MorningStar1337
^They said double negative, in other words they are convinced(but bit unsure) that they have heard that one being used as insult unless I misunderstood it myself
It's a bird.
Hm, I think there's a lot of layers to this.
"Nuts", "crazy" etc. could be seen as ableist slurs (or at least as having connotations of that nature) but as others have pointed out, they aren't words for real diagnoses and most people use them to mean "silly" or "blatantly wrong" rather than as comments on someone's mental health.
By contrast, if I was to - for example - call the person who stole my bike last week a "fucking klepto" within earshot of my friend whom I know is seeing a therapist for her kleptomania, or something along those lines, I think most people here might agree that I was being pretty rude.
Still a great "screw depression" song even after seven years.
Even calling someone who was, say, bipolar (I pick that because it's still fairly stigmatized) a name like "crazy" right to their face, it could be construed as rude. I just don't think using it to mean "irrational" has the same effect.
In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.
Not only would you be rude to your friend, but you would actually trivialize and excuse the thief who did steal your stuff deliberately. The thief likely doesn't have a condition, they're just an asshole.
Again, slurs insult the wrong people (for things they often have no control over), while not really insulting the one's you want to enough.
A lot of times I've seen "crazy" used as a euphemism for fun (ie, "Lets go Crazy") or being in love (ie, "I'm crazy about you"), so it's a term with many uses. Ditto with Mad which can also mean many things, and can also be also a euphemism for love.
Context is crucial to detect what’s civil or polite and what’s no longer, and some languages are more contextual than others.
Not keeping up with the changing context of society and language could lead to unpleasant misunderstandings.
There were times we wanted to change the world through deeds and were disappointed with the results, changes occurring too slow, too fast, not the way I want it…
It seems more fashionable for the last thirty years or so (most of our lifetimes) to change the world through words, and that’s bollocks.
„Im Anfang war die Tat!“ (in the beginning was the deed!) as the ghost hinted at the good doctor’s general direction.
I suppose changing the world still comes though deeds rather than the words describing or reflecting them.
Or maybe I’m mistaken, or just crazy, after all I am a fucking normie.
Just as my freedom ends where yours begins my tolerance of you ends where your intolerance toward me begins. As told by an old friend
It's a bird.
Isn't using words also technically a "deed"?
Lemme see…
Racism is over forever, prosperity is decreed, peace is declared!!!
No, it isn’t.
Just as my freedom ends where yours begins my tolerance of you ends where your intolerance toward me begins. As told by an old friend
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
I doubt if racism will ever die out.
And I wonder if we'll ever get to the point where an lot of adjectives are deemed offensive because there were used to negatively describe someone. It's bad enough that I'd seen a few people freaking out on Tumblr over what people say to them IRL.
Answer no master, never the slave Carry your dreams down into the grave Every heart, like every soul, equal to break
In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.
Using words is a deed. Or do you regard making verbal threats as a thoughtcrime? Communication impacts behavior. That's why it exists. It'd be useless otherwise.
so i made a new avatar
Are you seriously using Tumblr as a reference point for what might happen in the future among greater society?
It's a bird.
I... really didn't expect you to be so literal about the "changing the world through words" thing.
Sorry about the misunderstanding.
It seemed at the late end of the Twentieth century and the beginning of this one, that rather than words changing to reflect a rapidly changing society, it was a society disenchanted with changing the world more keen at using some more technically-descriptive terminology to perhaps sweeten the pill or soften the blow, while some very unwholesome facts on the ground remain or even deteriorate.
Perhaps hoping facts follow after the words, I wouldn’t know.
Obviously words can be used to plan and organise deeds and actions, or to spell them out in no uncertain ways.
Still, words are not the deeds or the things they describe, just as a map is not the terrain or the place.
If I fall ill and need treatment, calling me a soon-to-be-well-dude! is not helping…
The above should not be misunderstood as an excuse for calling people names and other forms of arsehollery.
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
Sorry, Physical Stamina, but when it gets to the point to where you're actually offended by the lack of gay characters
◊ in an children's game while hardly anyone else cares about it; I can't help but wonder what's going with you.
I know that it's not exactly what I meant earlier. But yes, I know that kind of shit on Tumblr shouldn't be taken seriously, but too much of the same shit means that something is going on, in my opinion.
Answer no master, never the slave Carry your dreams down into the grave Every heart, like every soul, equal to break
so i made a new avatar
I might not have objected to the use of Tumblr of all places as an example of how something is wrong so much if 1) it had any sort of basis in reality and 2) right-wing pundits didn't do that shit all the time.
A group of overzealous 15-year-old girls on Tumblr do not and will not determine the direction in which society goes in the near or distant future. They are the definition of a boogeyman.
Also, you just implied that gay characters aren't child-friendly. Good job on that.
edited 9th Jun '18 3:53:59 PM by PhysicalStamina
To pity someone is to tell them "I feel bad about being better than you."
Shin Megami Tensei IV
I think that is less "gay characters aren't child friendly" and more "children don't care".
But if children don't care. What's the issue with having some gay characters? It can help them to not see anything weird with LGTB people in the future.
A lot of LGTB people just wanna be see as normal (because they are, in the sense of normal-as-harmless)
Sorry if I take this a bit personal, but I get called a "Tumblrite" (technically I'm one, I like searching for fanart in Tumblr) as a insult when I do things as saying "isn't messed up how Persona 5 let your teenage protagonist date adult woman while also having no gay representation except a minor terciary character"
edited 9th Jun '18 4:16:49 PM by KazuyaProta
Watch me destroying my country
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
The reason why I brought up Tumblr is that it was the first site where I see random strangers going for someone's throat for not talking the way they expect them to.
But I think it's an little weird (and convenient) to go as far as the "You're an evil person for not considering the needs of <insert minority here>" card.
As for that last part: That wasn't me in that image. The only people that I know who are saying that being gay is bad have ties to religion. And I'm not one of them.
Answer no master, never the slave Carry your dreams down into the grave Every heart, like every soul, equal to break
Shin Megami Tensei IV
They can be annoying and self righteous? Yeah.
They're anything that will really change society? Not really.
Also. Sharing a Smosh link? Not helping your case.
Tumblr have a lot of toxic stuff. But they caring for social issues is not one of them
edited 9th Jun '18 4:26:09 PM by KazuyaProta
Watch me destroying my country
I don't think it's about "normal". Calling someone an idiot does not mean "your mind is abnormal!" but simply "Your mind is inferior!".
edited 7th Jun '18 8:11:21 AM by Medinoc
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."