The police force we see is labeled as "Precinct 1", so presumably there are others, probably stationed in other districts of the city where they can handle their own issues faster. I can see why fanfic authors (and Disney) don't really bother with them though, seeing how many characters Precinct 1 alone has yet to elaborate on.
Also, I think someone pointed out that you can see miniature police cars during the Little Rodentia chase, though I'm not sure if those would be another precinct of the ZPD or their own police force entirely.
edited 7th May '16 2:10:43 AM by Berserker88
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They could be some kind of private security firm, set up specifically because the district was neglected by the actual police. They might even have Anti-Godzilla type weapons. :V
And speaking of the other officers, I personally like to think of McHorn (who seems to be the most prominent of the bunch besides Bogo and Clawhauser, not to mention one of the few who actually has lines) as an old, longtime veteran of the force who's been putting off retirement because of the superstition that bad things always happen on a cop's last day before retirement.note I also think he was one of the few who secretly respected Judy right from the start, going by the disproportionately-sized fist bump he gives her. Chiding her for running into Little Rodentia was just standard procedure, of course; I mean, she was still a meter maid parking ticketing officer at that point.
There is a fence, yes, but I'd wager there wasn't always a fence there. They probably had to build one after a nasty incident of the same variety that I've described. That's how health and safety regs in real life tend to work. :P
edited 7th May '16 5:00:19 AM by PresidentStalkeyes
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Actually, it was kind of discussed in the fridge page, that the police presence in Little Rodentia are... rather... inadequate. I mean, Mr. Big could casually ordering to ice Judy, who is in official uniform. It was implied that rodent and other small-size mammals was not really represented in force, or maybe the force was ineffective. Hard to tell, really.
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Well, Mr. Big was right to be confident in Icing mammals he doesn't like because that's actually a pretty effective murder method, I would think. The freezing temperatures of the water would obscure the time of death and probably screw up any attempted forensic analysis, and there'd be no sure-fire way of connecting death-by-water-induced-hypothermia with anything Big was doing. He could just say they fell in by accident. Folks might get suspicious, but there'd be no way of proving that there was any foul play from the circumstances of their death alone.
It's kind of like that real-life mob hitman I read about, who would kill people and then hide their bodies in the freezer of an ice cream truck before disposing of them properly.
edited 7th May '16 9:00:40 AM by PresidentStalkeyes
"If you think like a child, you will do a child's work."
"Everything you see exists together in a delicate balance," Mufasa wisely said. "As king, you need to understand that balance and respect all the creatures, from the crawling ant to the leaping antelope."
"But, Dad, don't we eat the antelope?" his son asked.
"Yes, Simba, but let me explain," the lion king patiently answered. "When we die, our bodies become the grass, and the antelope eat the grass. And so we are all connected in the great Circle of Life."
At that point, a nerve-wrecked Judy had enough, hopped out of her seat with a paw clamped on her mouth, and dashed out of the theater to join several other herbivores moviegoers at the gates, most of them making vigorous vomiting sounds.
Nick looked at her quickly fleeing figure, then shouted. "Hey! I warned you it was a controversial movie!"
Are you quoting something? If so, I'd like to know what. ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
Funny that we're on the subject of Mr. Big and icing people because guess what my new chapter is about.
Warning: this one's a doozy. Probably the longest thing I'm going to write for a while.
edited 7th May '16 11:15:33 AM by Berserker88
I'll read it when I wake up. I bet it's going to be big! <3
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I'm in the middle of reading it right now, but in reference to its length, how long would you say is too long? I'm starting to worry that this second chapter I'm writing is getting a bit too long. Might have to split up the two scenes that it consists of.
I think there's no hurt in splitting a huge chapter, particularly (or even if) it's two lines no waiting.
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That's exactly what I did in fact. My general rule is to focus on pacing and put as much content into one chapter as feels necessary. That typically gives me chapters around 3K in length, but this one is closer to 6K.
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Hmm... I think I will split this one up, then. The two 'halves' of this chapter centre around two different things, after all. The first serves primarily to introduce everyone who'll be involved in the big trial later in the story, the second is mostly Sam contemplating the correctness of his own ideals in the wake of recent events.
Also, Berserker, when you're writing the next chapter, you should listen to this. Why? Because it's the theme of Mr. Big. *Bricked*
Of course it is. 
About your review, glad you like the mystery villains because I find those extremely fun. My thing with Fru Fru is that she probably was hysterical when she first discovered the murder(s), but it's now almost noon the next day and so, while still pretty emotionally unstable, I would think she's at least past the hysteria stage by now. I should change the ending a bit though, because Simon's last line was meant to be referring to the Count. I'll make that more clear.
@Napoleon: Gee, thanks NDC. You just make one of Disney's classic (The Lion King) into this world equivalent of fascist propaganda movie.
@Icing: The fact that Mr.Big is confident enough to declare his intention to ice Judy, while she still wearing her uniform, is good enough proof that at least, he don't fear copper as much as it should be. Because, let's face it, obnoxious or not, Judy is still a copper, and if many movies and series to be believed, they're a very close-knit community. And when you harm one of them, the other will find a way to make payback, procedure be damned.
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Well, I also think Mr. Big simply wasn't taking her very seriously because she's a Rabbit Cop, which as far as most of Zootopia is concerned is a weird curiosity, like a... Bison Ballerina. Hell, he thought she was a stripper when she first entered. Well, okay not necessarily, but it makes for a good Getting Crap Past the Radar moment. :V
Also, about The Lion King in Zootopia, I had read it as being more interpreted as Deliberate Values Dissonance, as to them it'd be like a period piece about the ancient times when Predators and Prey were still natural enemies.
"If you think like a child, you will do a child's work."
It'd be the equivalent of watching a time period piece where a man tells his infant son, while they're both buck naked, on how it's okay to exploit other races, as long as you don't overdo it, because that's the way the world's supposed to be. And they're portrayed as the unequivocal good guys.
While it's played for laughs, I think it'd be a thing a lot of animals would be highly uncomfortable watching, even if they understand the circumstances.
That, and the whole hyena species portrayal would be seen as highly problematic.
Are you quoting something? If so, I'd like to know what
No, just a snippet I came up with on the fly.
edited 7th May '16 5:40:55 PM by NapoleonDeCheese
Oh, you just had it in that format so I was wondering. Honestly, I'd love to see a fic entirely about The Lion King (and other similar movies) as seen by Zootopians.
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Ok, to me, it seemed like Nick's journal prior to this chapter. Is it still Nick's journal, if it had ever been? I can imagine him reconstructing the events of the entire crime story anyway.
Francine: "Wait, why do you know the name of Fru Fru? Suspicious, are you sure you've never been in cahoots with these guys? And you seem to be too emotional about it?" "Officer Hopps, I'm taking you in! You have the right to remain silent..." (ok, just kidding about the arrest)
Ok we got the standard forensics, nothing special. Only four guards slain, the others are deserters, but that leaves room for one to be caught and interrogated later.
Shrews are born in litters of 5-7, so I'm assuming thanks to the bit of focus, you just didn't mention the other 4-6 and focused on Little Judy? (Note: I had to check. <3)
I wonder how Big Judy and Francine came to the conclusion of peg leg like that was it! The blood on one foot is a way more plausible explanation.
And I like how actual guns were involved now. This probably means something over the taser and dart gun, but I'm not sure. This just makes it feel like more for some reason. Well ok even the taser is an upgrade from any weaponry used in the film, which is actually next to nothing, but I feel better already.
I wonder why the cops just let their star witness just leave like that. I don't think that made sense. I hope Big Judy picked up Fru Fru's number at least.
The cliffhanger is better this time. Nothing super surprising.
P.S. I love my Running Gag and personal meme where I keep telling people who haven't seen the movie that it has guns, blood, violence, explosions and nudity.
edited 7th May '16 7:26:00 PM by Malco
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Nick's journal? If you mean whether or not it's still primarily about Nick, yes it is. It's more that the protagonist and deuteragonist roles switched around in this story as opposed to Nick taking the spotlight completely. Judy's not the main character, but I can't just leave her in the dust either.
Hey, I'm impressed with myself just for knowing that shrews are considered the most vicious carnivores. Don't go expecting me to know how many babies they make. :P
I don't know about the peg leg thing. I feel that the spots on the floor matching up with the set of footprints is pretty clear-cut evidence. Like what else could that mean?
Yeah, I like when other fics make use of actual guns too. I know some people would complain about it being "too edgy" or something, but I think of it more as "not bound by Disney". Logically, there is no reason for real guns not to exist. I only keep tranq guns as the standard police weapon because they fit with the setting and happen to be an effective way to peacefully subdue criminals.
Judy probably already knows Fru Fru's number anyway. And it's not like the police couldn't just track her down again regardless. She explicitly said where she was going.
Nothing surprising? Ouch. I was hoping the ending at least would contain a few surprises, especially the black SUV guys being connected to the murder plot. But I guess that wasn't too hard to piece together.
As I said before, I'm trying not to focus too much on getting the police procedures right, because the reality is that doing so would result in me stressing out and never getting anything done. Hence the (relatively) long gap between Chapters 2 and 3 before I finally said "screw it". So if it's the biggest weakness of my story so far, that's probably why. (Note that most of my experience with police and detective work comes from Ace Attorney, which doesn't help either.)
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Hmm... you know, Berserker, I was wondering. Will at any point your story delve into the legal side of the Law & Order formula, as well? And the Ace Attorney formula, of course.
"If you think like a child, you will do a child's work."
Considering I know even less about that side, probably not.
Incidentally, my collab partner is working on an Ace Attorney/Zootopia fic based in the same continuity, so there's that at least.
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It's because of the time and date after every section that I thought it COULD be Nick's journal and I thought it was like a first person memoir, but a police documentary show will have a time/date stamp too before every scene I guess.
Crud, I missed the spots! Sorry, I failed the spot check, and this is why I'm not part of the criminal justice system. :D You are right, the conclusion works out. Now that the peg leg is bloody, I can't wait until the assassin is caught and if it turns out he didn't wash it or something, incriminating him to the crime.
I am OK with your artistic license with police procedures though. Since I have small reference pools, my knowledge from that is also from L.A. Law and NYPD Blue. (Yes, these are old-ass shows. I hardly watch the current ones.)
Yeah I like the weaponry, I feel since we're out of PG rating and no longer ultra-canon and trying to be kid friendly, it's time to bring out the big guns... hey wait!
I guess the lesser impact of the cliffhanger is because I'm dealing with characters that only appeared for one scene prior (two scenes with the black van). As I get shown more of the new villains and about them, I might probably have more of an emotional what's-that-word. with them.
And as for shrew reproduction and stuff, I just looked it up on Wikipedia, heh heh heh. But conservation of detail is OK, in fact, the other kids are probably forgettable as all could get out, and Little Judy is the only one the audience needs to know about. Now I wonder if the spoilered character will get any screentime.
Done editing. Sorry if it seems I edit a lot, I typo a ton, and I tend to write by the seat of my pants so I think of new things to talk about seconds to minutes after I type stuff.
edited 8th May '16 4:33:39 AM by Malco
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That does sound very helpful. I know this is going to sound like a shameless plugging attempt, but I thought that if you ever needed a Lawyer character, then, well...
I will say that it might be for the best that you take artistic liberties with police procedure. I think one of the main reasons this 'fic of mine is taking longer than it would otherwise is because of the research I have to do. Well, that, and because I'm supposed to be doing Uni work as well. >_>
edited 8th May '16 4:22:57 AM by PresidentStalkeyes
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I can hope the research you have done for the fic benefits yer studies as well so you can hit two goals with one shot. <3
I've seen stranger crossovers involving said attorney. There's a good fic/narrated visual novel where he's brought into Equestria that I watched. No, he wasn't ponified.
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Oh no, I didn't mean that Lawyer, no. I meant mine. I suppose using the term 'Crossover' was misleading because it implied two properties in one. I meant two fanfics in one.
"If you think like a child, you will do a child's work."
Well there's a reason they have this huge fence so that Mchorn can't chase Weaselton, leaving it to Judy...
That makes me think: does Rodentia has its own police station? And there's a police academy for animals the size of Fru Fru or Mr. Big...
Because if not, then clearly that is an oversight in urban planning if Bogo's crew is the only police force in the entire city, or they're just assuming there's no crime ever in Rodentia so there's no need for police officers there small enough to lay down the law even if it's a person as (relatively) big as Judy.
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