Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

Not to mention that Lord and Miller have both outright denied he's Raimi Peter and that they drew inspiration from multiple versions of cinematic Peters to create their own Peter. Even the Raimi scene nods aren't 100% the same as in the movies. They're just references.

Kinda like the Spider-Man ps4 game. Which some have called the best Spider-Man game yet. Would be interesting to have two contenders as the best Spider-Man thing in their respective media in the same year

Spider-Man games are generally on a pretty consistent level in both 2D or 3D eras. Spider-Man (PS4) is the first unambiguously great game in terms of story, gameplay, structure, presentation whereas earlier games were entertaining on one or two of those categories. Batman likewise had a lot of decent games until the Arkham Series took things to a higher level. There were also some decent Wolverine games, although Superman is just this great sadness.

Into the Spider-Verse is a superhero animated film for a major release. That category includes the Fleischer Bros' Superman Theatrical Cartoons (released in movies in The '40s and printed on technicolor) and Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (which failed and got clobbered but did well on home video and is still highly thought of). So it's a much more rare and exclusive club.

Edited by Revolutionary_Jack on Dec 4th 2018 at 12:21:37 PM

Orginal I meant Into the Spider-Verse as contenders as the best Spider-Man movie but I suppose it can fit into many categories

It shouldn't be too hard in theory to make the best Spider-Man film because all the ones that have been made are flawed in some way or another. Like my rankings of great and good Spider-Man films are in order of preference: Spider-Man, Spider-Man: Homecoming and Spider-Man 2. The other three are not good films in my view, even if they have stuff in them that's kind of interesting. I still think that the first Spider-Man by Sam Raimi is the best one or the most satisfying one. At least until the ending with "Don't tell Harry" and Peter deciding to become a monk and stiff MJ. It's not faithful, like Peter is a total milquetoast Extreme Doormat there, and MJ is too depressed and moody. Dafoe's Goblin is the best villain and that final brutal fight at the end is still for me the best fight scene in superhero movies.

So, do you think they'll make something for Ditko?

I believe there is a tribute in the movie. I mean Lee will always get more love since he was such a big presence with those cameos and so on...while Ditko out of choice decided to shun the public. I don't think the latter would be too chuffed about not getting as much of a memorial as Lee. I'd think he'd prefer it that way and be valued for his work, and acknowledged and credited for that. That's what he wanted from Marvel after all and that's why he left.

A recap promo of Johnson’s Peter’s life. 2 big spoilers about his life if you didnt already know

Somewhere Quesada is smiling...

But like I said there are 2 Peters and 2 MJs in the movie and this one is from the loser-universe while the cool one is played by Chris Pine.

Quesada would be actually be frowning at this, not smiling.

The reason why he didn’t go with the divorce is because it would have made Peter feel too real, or old, or adult, or whatever.

Peter actually does look like a real, old, adult in this which is the complete opposite of what Quesada wanted.

Seriously the guy’s got a pot belly, there’s certainly no Wish Fufillment here.

It doesn’t matter if he’s not the cool one because that guy is dead. He’s just a backstory element that we know of.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 5th 2018 at 7:38:42 AM

Exactly this is why Peter should be young, hip, not married and so never sign divorce and so on. Old Peter will always be a disappointment, so why bother? <Insert Green Goblin Evil Laugh here>

Well Uncle Ben is dead, so why care about him?

Edited by Revolutionary_Jack on Dec 5th 2018 at 7:40:55 AM

How much did Peter eat to get a pot belly? Or his metabollism really got slow.

You slow down in your 40’s, unfortunately. Also he’s actually introduced having a pizza, so...yeah.

How is he able to afford pizza with all the alimony payments and poverty? Stress eating seems hard to do on the Rorschach budget. I mean okay, it's a new kind of stereotype they have foisted to sell. Mid-Life Crisis Peter but logically it doesn't work.

There’s still places in New York where you can get a slice of pizza for $1. It’s cheaper than the alternatives.

Luke having that milk from that walrus-cow thing in The Last Jedi had a certain hobo aging hippie charm in comparison. Somehow Old Peter made me feel better about Old Luke

I’m sure they parted amicably and he doesn’t have to pay alimony like Alan from Two and a Half Man.

Actually since MJ can run a pretty successful business she’s prolly paying him alimony.

That small screencap shows MJ being pretty reluctant about the entire thing with Peter signing first...which is nice, because I hope they avoid the misogynist thing with her always dumping him all the time and so making it about his man-pain. Bendis avoided that in Ultimate Spider-Man in their second break-up where it's Peter who dumps her and the follow-up story shows her being a wreck.

This Older Peter very much has the affect of "I screwed up and made my life worse for no reason"...

Jack, isn't that a spoiler?

Peni's uniform is pretty similar to Miles' school's, so in the future in an alternate universe the school is still standing.

Edited by RAlexa21th on Dec 5th 2018 at 9:01:50 AM

It's promos and trailers. Those aren't spoilers. The Old Peter being a divorced sad sack was revealed and promoted 1 month or so back.

Edited by Revolutionary_Jack on Dec 5th 2018 at 9:35:45 AM

Golden Globe nomination for best animated film[1]

It also nominated by Annie.

I still feel like Incredibles 2 will end up the front runner for award season due to Disney-bias of voters, but cool to see Spider-Verse not getting snubbed with these nominations.

I think Into the Spider-Verse might have a chance. Incredibles 2 is not a movie that people liked. It's a sequel and its art style is conventional (at this point). Spider-Verse has Miles Morales, it has a genuinely new approach to animation people haven't seen for a long time in any theatrical release. So it might actually stand a chance. Who knows maybe win the Best Animated Oscar...