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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#8501: Sep 24th 2019 at 11:11:17 AM

So you mean Magica effectively transferred her powers to Lena, and then was severed from her without getting them back? That could work.

I hope they flesh out Violet a bit more in future episodes, she was little more than an exposition machine in the last episode. Her dream would have been a nice way to explore her personality more, but it was a bit predictable instead, and didn't really leave much to work with.

Optimism is a duty.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#8502: Sep 24th 2019 at 11:14:00 AM

> So you mean Magica effectively transferred her powers to Lena, and then was severed from her without getting them back? That could work.

Bingo,the downside is that Lena is tied to Magica,if they decided to kill Magica (they won't) there's a fairly decent chance it could effect her too

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#8503: Sep 24th 2019 at 11:15:45 AM

Is she still tied to Magica, though? I thought that link was broken.

I know it seemed like Magica and Lena had a magical link, here, but it could just as easily just be Magica playing mind games.

Optimism is a duty.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#8504: Sep 24th 2019 at 11:17:29 AM

Something like a magical link is never truly severed,just disconnected untill Magica works how to bind her again

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jessicadicicco610 Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#8505: Sep 24th 2019 at 11:29:10 AM

[up][up][up][up][up][up]Though still, he (BOYD) does at least have the niceness that 1987 Doofus has.

Etheru Since: Jul, 2009
#8506: Sep 24th 2019 at 12:41:13 PM

I wondered if maybe Boyd was essentially Doofus's good qualities given to a different character when I watched the episode with my sister.

I like Boyd. I hope to see more of him (and, as was mentioned, Boyd's interactions with Doofus).

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#8507: Sep 24th 2019 at 2:01:39 PM

I don't think Boyd has enough going on for him to be said to have Doofus' old character traits. What traits do Old Doofus and Boyd have in common beyond "they are nice kids"?

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CitizenH Since: Feb, 2014
#8508: Sep 24th 2019 at 2:51:47 PM

Imagine if 2017 Doofus got his hands on an alien artifact that made him superhuman.

Etheru Since: Jul, 2009
#8509: Sep 24th 2019 at 2:56:15 PM

[up][up]I'm one of those people who looks too far into things a lot of the time.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#8510: Sep 24th 2019 at 3:10:01 PM

At this point, Boyd is just a very nice robot, but anything can happen. I mean, we already have a living shadow with more humanity than it's creator, so why not a sentient robot with more humanity than it's living brother?

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#8511: Sep 24th 2019 at 9:21:06 PM

Lena has magic powers cause the remains of Magica's amulet/staff are in her.

Edited by Envyus on Sep 24th 2019 at 10:22:24 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#8512: Sep 25th 2019 at 2:28:30 AM

Yeah, but that's not what this episode is suggesting. This episode suggests that Lena somehow gained Magica's innate magical power, not just the magic from one of her artefacts.

The implication seems to be that Magica isn't able to use any magic at all now. Hence why she had to resort to technology, rather than another magical object.

Optimism is a duty.
Kayeka from Amsterdam (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#8513: Sep 25th 2019 at 2:37:33 AM

Didn't she always use Magica's amulet/staff to do so, however?

Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
Mighty No. 51345
#8514: Sep 25th 2019 at 3:09:54 AM

I thought the implication was that she simply didnt have her amulet anymore. Without the amulet or the dime, she has nothing to draw power from.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#8515: Sep 25th 2019 at 3:10:59 AM

Yeah, but this episode seems to suggest that Magica lost something innate to her that allowed her to use that amulet/staff in the first place. And that that something has been transferred to Lena. Hence why Magica is so desperate to get that something back.

Why else would she resort to technology, instead of just another magical trinket?

Edited by Redmess on Sep 25th 2019 at 12:13:13 PM

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Maljen Since: Jan, 2015
#8516: Sep 25th 2019 at 4:04:58 AM

Lena IS Magica's shadow embodied. It might be the case that Lena's creation had some unforeseen side-effect on her creator that Magica didn't realize until it was too late.

Lena might even be something deeper than just Magica's shadow. Like Magica's "incomplete" now.

Also, I'll point out that Lena's design in concept art made her ties to Magica even more obvious (as in flat-out looking like a grumpy teen version of her). I say this is notable since it could serve as a reminder that Lena could be called something like Magica's Agahnim.

Edited by Maljen on Sep 25th 2019 at 4:19:01 AM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#8517: Sep 25th 2019 at 5:34:13 AM

So if Magica wants her power she has to fight Lena in a game of magical tennis?

Edited by sgamer82 on Sep 25th 2019 at 6:35:29 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#8518: Sep 25th 2019 at 5:43:49 AM

It's not entirely clear, but I think the implication is that Lena has to give her powers back to Magica willingly, hence the psychological manipulation.

Expect future Magica plots to revolve around Magica trying to manipulate Lena into doing just that.

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Maljen Since: Jan, 2015
#8519: Sep 26th 2019 at 12:00:02 AM

Speaking of Lena, browsing around /co/ had me see that an apparently decently notable idea there is having her interact with Donald in a wacky Intergenerational Friendship. I can kinda see it, considering their attitudes towards all that happens around them.

sabrina_diamond iSanity! from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
#8520: Oct 2nd 2019 at 8:06:10 AM

So the first episode of Ducktales I decided to watch with my mum was "The Shadow War: Part 1" She liked the episode. Then again, my mum watched Supernatural and Charmed a lot, so basically she liked Lena's transformation the most.

Edited by sabrina_diamond on Oct 3rd 2019 at 1:11:54 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#8521: Oct 2nd 2019 at 8:39:57 AM

Yeah, that sounds like the perfect episode. I bet your mom would like the Lena story arc in general.

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Maljen Since: Jan, 2015
#8522: Oct 4th 2019 at 7:09:54 AM

https://suspendersofdisbelief.tumblr.com/post/188113915931/have-we-met-zans-replacement-in-the-show

I don't know if anybody else here has seen this, but Angones commented again on Zan Owlson's replacement. He confirmed it's not a new character, since it's someone we've seen before.

Edited by Maljen on Oct 4th 2019 at 7:24:35 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#8523: Oct 4th 2019 at 7:21:37 AM

Antigones?

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Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#8524: Oct 4th 2019 at 8:09:24 AM

[up][up]Zan's replacement as the vice-president of Glomgold's company (which, I assume, he got back in "Moonvasion") or as the vice-president of Scrooge's company?

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#8525: Oct 4th 2019 at 8:12:55 AM

I wonder what they are planning to do with Daisy, since we know she's been confirmed?

I remember Frank saying that she was his daughter's favorite, so I'll be interested to see what they do with her.

Edited by megaeliz on Oct 4th 2019 at 11:17:11 AM


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