I wonder if Tobias will be back before the finale.

Post of the Day #2621

Posted by d Roy on Sat, 1st Sep '12 10:47:24 AM - Post #277597 in the old thread

It's been pretty quiet, so this seems like a good time to post some more of the AI generated random posts

This one isn't all that coherent, but the last line almost sounds like poetry

This one isn't very in keeping with the show's themes...

I can't stand empathy, either. Why is everybody else's feelings more important then mine, huh?

Edited by fredhot16 on Aug 28th 2019 at 8:53:23 AM

If there's anything more important than my feelings around, I want it caught and shot now.

Edited by YamiVizziniX on Aug 28th 2019 at 11:58:10 AM

Post of the Day #2622

Hmm, well that's too bad. Ah well, might as well should ask ya this anyway Orion: Do you have any friends at all? Cause I never ever see you talk about them. Also, I'm going on a stretch and say that Crowfall might approve of my new avatar. Here's some Twidash since I haven't linked to it in a while now. http://derpibooru.org/492785?scope=scpe299175f28acb225e34c3444d447d1eed6e3966fb

Posted by marston on Mon, 16th Dec '13 9:07:04 PM - Post #29566 in the new thread

https://www.equestriadaily.com/2019/08/writers-for-final-episodes-of-season.html?m=1

Given that the last MLP episodes have been leaked, we have the writers for them. All of them are written by people who've written for the show. The exception is Ariel Shepherd Oppenheim, who's worked on Llama Llama and Vampirina, so writing here is fitting.

Is that surprising? Wouldn't that be expected of a finale?

Post of the Day #2623

Posted by Bluespade on Sat, 14th Apr '12 8:21:31 PM - Post #156979 in the old thread

Wait, “redundant”?

Yeah, I wouldn't put much stock in that one.

I’m more confused. “making their chemistry with others redundant”? Hell’s that mean?

Edited by fredhot16 on Aug 30th 2019 at 8:43:31 AM

Perhaps they meant that any other romantic chemistry outside of the main couple is wasted/redundant, because the main couple is already Strangled by the Red String?

Not getting the impression they’re talking about romantic chemistry in that line. Or that they know what “redundant” actually means.

How is it useless because you have already more of it?

Of course, I see chemistry as not being inherently romantic.

Edited by fredhot16 on Aug 30th 2019 at 9:04:20 AM

I suppose what they really meant was "irrelevant". But redundant sounds fine to me.

I’m not even seeing how romantic chemistry could be considered redundant except if it’s with the same type of person in the same type of way.

Post of the Day #2624

Posted by kegisak on Sat, 19th Jul '14 7:33:56 PM - Post #81319 in the new thread

• Oh, hey, it' the animal sanctuary!
• ZECORA RETURNS!
• It's a friendly salamander?
• No....?
• I still find the non-sentient giraffe weird
• Wing hands
• Fluttershy finally stands up to Angel
• Zecora gives Angel a potion that allows him to speak?
• Or not.
• I did not expect that!
• Uh oh.
• Communicate by writing, Flutterbunny!
• Angelshy is absolutely hilarious.
• Well, Fluttershy doesn't half-ass everything
• Angelshy, you've screwed up
• REALLY Screwed up
• It's a good thing snakes don't, you know, digest the things they eat
• And everycreature lived happily ever after

An enjoyable episode, all in all.

Only two minutes in, and this is already a very weird and unnecessary episode.

The show has never acknowledged the whole predators eat other animals thing before, and it's just strange that they would bring it up now, because it's one of those cases where attempting to answer a question just makes the issue worse.

Up until now, we could assume that in Equestria, all animals are magically herbivores or something (barring the fish that Fluttershy fed some animals in season 1 and the big scary monsters that occasionally menace people). But attempting to address the issue and failing just brings people's attention to it. For example, why are the carnivores able to just eat vegetables? That would be a completely unworkable solution in real life. Better to just ignore the issue entirely and imply it doesn't exist by omission.

anyway, on to the rest of the episode:

Another acknowledgement of the whole teaching taking up all their time despite having day jobs thing.

Vegan? Why do the cookies have to be vegan? We already know that ponies use milk and eggs without compunctions.

Edit: Well now that I've watched the episode, I'd say it's pretty good. The opener is still weird and uncalled for, but once the actual plot gets going, it gets a lot better.

Andrea Libman must have gotten a workout, doing the voices of both Fluttershy and pony!Angel.

I was a little confused by the bit at the end. I thought animals could talk to other animals, and thus Angel could talk to the animals directly. Why does he need Fluttershy to interpret everything, apart from doing so for the benefit of the human audience?

Edited by storyyeller on Aug 31st 2019 at 6:21:16 AM

She Talks to Angel

You know, this episode will probably be the last time we see Angel. I doubt the finale will have much time for him, considering just how much will be going on. Maybe in the epilogue, if the writers remember. Hey, maybe they'll remember Winona, too. To say nothing of Owlowicious.

"Antoine believes what he eats is his busniness." Antoin is a snake. And not a cute cartoon snake, either. Cue all the fanart of Antoine eating all sorts of critters. Including rabbits.

"Do other predators feel that way too?" What do you think, Flutters? You're the animal expert.

My guess is that they want to eat some meat already.

Also, reminding the audience that, yes, Fluttershy CAN talk to animals. As in, directly. Oh, and this has never been explained on the show. It just sort of happened without comment, even from other ponies, who clearly cannot talk to animals whatsoever.

"Muriel, does it bother you when Antoine tries to eat you?" Bother you? What have you been drinking this morning, Flutters? She's talking about prey getting eaten as some minor annoyance.

That elephant has it's trunk in a bandaid, by the way. Now that would have been an interesting hospital visit, considering how snakes generally eat their food.

Also, what kind of snake tries to eat an elephant? But I guess there weren't any smaller critters left to complain.

Flutters tries to calm the group of predators and prey animals down (and yes, she does use those words), but Angel keeps annoying various very sharp-toothed animals. How that rabbit still has both it's ears is a mystery to me.

"You could teach all these predators the delights of a carrot based cuisine." ... Really? Carnivores don't eat carrots, generally. Hell, not even rabbits eat carrots, normally (carrots are a bit like fast food for rabbits, they'll eat it, but it's not very good for their health).

I mean, the predator-prey thing has been hanging over Flutter's day job for almost a decade now, and it's good they want to address it, I suppose, but then going to the extreme of suggesting all carnivores can just go vegetarian is a bit too much. And let's remember that cats are carnivores, too, and your child's cat would do very poorly on a vegetarian diet, so let's not put those ideas in our children's heads, I would say. Not that some adults aren't just as bad at forcing their pets to be vegetarian, mind you, but stuff like this doesn't help.

So the new rule is that predators can only eat vegetables at the sanctuary. So, apparently it's okay if they hunt each other for meat outside the sanctuary.

"Oh, Sandra, you can do it." And the wolf is already looking and sounding hungry. Yeah, this doesn't seem much fun at all for those carnivores.

Also, notice all the prey animals (except for Angel) have some kind of injury, which means Flutters must have only narrowly averted a blood bath.

And then Angel shoves a carrot in the wolf's mouth, who of course immediately gives chase. How has this asshole bunny not been eaten yet? Of course, a huge stampede/melee ensues.

"It may look like chaos, but Fluttershy makes it work, even WITH Angel running around." She does? Because this doesn't look like "making it work". This looks like courting disaster every step of the way, with Angel at the centre of the disaster.

"Perhaps I can help those two get along, before something here can go terribly wrong." Hey, it's Zecora.

The local veterinarian brings a gecko to the sanctuary that seems to breathe smoke. I'm not sure how Flutters is going to help with that, that would seem more like a job for the veterinarian in the first place.

"If we really want to know what's going on, we need to make sure the problem isn't your food." With how the episode has handled animal diets so far, I'm not very confident this will go well. Let's see, what do geckos eat, anyway? Worms and crickets, it looks like. So are these cute enough for Flutters to exclude from her "no meat" rule, or are they fair game? I wonder if they will even bring it up.

Zecora confronts Flutters over Angel's poor behaviour. Of course Flutters is in full denial that there are any problems, emphasizing that they are best friends. Angel doesn't seem to agree much, though.

"Goodness, Fluttershy, is this the list of what you do every day? How do you find time for anything else?" "Between here and teaching at the school, I'm not sure that I do." Either of these jobs would be a full time job. Never mind free time, how does she find time to do both of these jobs? Once again, it is glaringly obvious that the school does not mesh well with the established jobs of the main cast.

"Not now, Angel." Wow, that was sharp. Notice how she glances around before doing that, as if to see if no one else is watching. Clearly Flutterjerk does not feel she needs to hide from Angel as much as everyone else.

"Here's snake treats made to look like chocolate chip cookies." Snake treats? Wouldn't that be meat, then? What critter did Fluttershy turn into a chocolate chip cookie? I feel there will be a dark fic exploring that idea soon enough.

Also, the snake chews, because that's a thing snakes do, right? It's a little odd how they went for a very realistic (and rather scary) snake, but gave it some very un-snake-like features like chewing.

"Pinkie Pie made a whole jar of them." Oh no... Well, at least they're not cupcakes.

"No more trying to eat Muriel the baby elephant." Man, they are being rather explicit about the whole food chain thing today, aren't they? And this is the show that quickly retconned out cows because of the implications of horses eating meat.

Also, is the snake wanting to eat an elephant a joke aimed at kids? Because that would presume that children know what snakes normally eat, and the episode is being rather wishy-washy aout acknowledging that.

"This place would be a zoo without you!" This makes me wonder, why doesn't the veterinarian come and work at the sanctuary, instead, and hire Fluttershy? Having someone who can literally talk to animals would be an invaluable skill.

"Little fella wants you all to himself." What, so he can bully Flutters at his own leisure, instead?

Angel is being very demanding, wanting carrot extract that is short in supply. I'm not sure what side to be on, here. The episode seems to want to paint Flutters as the one in the wrong, but Angel is a jerk, so it's hard to decide.

"Of course I know you can't talk to anypony else, but that's not MY fault." Oh, I see. Angel has become reliant on Flutters to get things done from others, and now Flutters has less time, the needy little bunny is upset he isn't getting his way.

Angel and Flutters go to Zecora for help. Angel explains again that Flutters is too busy to talk to him, which he of course calls ignoring. I'm not sure that's the problem so much, as Angel just being too clingy and needy, not helped by the fact that only Flutters can talk to him at all.

"Ah, such luck you come in here, indeed, behold the antidote you need!" S He's totally been preparing that all morning. And a cauldron full, too.

Zecora gives them a potion to take at home, but Angel is impatient with Flutters' worrying, and takes it in the middle of town instead.

"Am I a pony? WHY AM I A PONY??" Yep, it's a "Freaky Friday" Flip, and Angel and Fluttershy have traded bodies. Not sure how that is going to help them anymore than just talking it out would have. I guess Zecora just likes having a good laugh in therapy.

So now Angel can talk, and Flutters can't, inside each other's body.

Angel asks Fluttershy if this was meant to happen, but Fluttershy can only think of how Angel is going to finish her chores now.

"How are you going to do your chores? Really? That's what you're worried about?" Angel sounds just like snarky Fluttershy. These two DO belong together.

Angel immediately proclaims he doesn't want to turn back now he is a pony and can talk to other ponies. Well, that didn't take long at all.

Fluttershy wants to go back to Zecora to get switched back. All by herself. Angel is very sceptical. They then fight over Angel having to do Flutter's job. Well, jobs, but I don't think they will remember the school one today.

"The Stare? You can still do that?" Apparently.

"You dare making me do your bidding against my will." Well, when you put it like that... Yeah, that IS pretty mean.

It's also weird how Angel is now talking with a little boy's voice, instead of Fluttershy's. That doesn't seem too logical.

Angel walks back into the sanctuary in a bad mood, eerily similar to how Fluttershy in a bad mood tends to act: passive agressively snarky.

"Well, well, well, remember me?" That poor wolf. Angel is going to be mean to the predators today. Well, it's not very different to how he usually treats them. This reversal of fates would be more poignant if Angel wasn't already an effective bully to predators. Now, he is basically continuing where he left off.

Fluttershy tries asking Twi and Spike for help, but of course they can't understand her. A bit of a continuity error here: Angel has done pretty well communicating with charades in the past, and presumably Flutters could use that too, now.

Meanwhile, Angel has chained the wolf to a tree and is forcing her to eat carrots. Again, this moment is undermined a bit since the carrot idea was Fluttershy's idea, not Angel's.

Muriel the elephant's trunk is healed, but she promptly sucks in some keys. Angel thinks it's fine, of course.

Angel continues to half-ass the chores and be an ass to the other animals. I'm starting to wonder if the writers just wanted an episode of mean Fluttershy again, like with Iron Will or Rarity's boutique. Those were fun episodes, after all.

Meanwhile, Flutters is in the forest, where an eagle promptly selects her as it's dinner. Oh, so NOW predators can hunt, I see.

"A single link to all the world, only one in all the land. How special she must be to you, the one who understands." Why does Zecora not realize that this is Fluttershy? Or was the potion really an accident?

"And if you were to both apologize, having learned this little lesson, I imagine that might bring an end to the friendship therapy session." Oh, so you DO know, you're just trolling Flutters now.

Meanwhile, Flutters has encouraged Antoine and Muriel to hang out over dinner, which of course means that Muriel will be the dinner. Still not sure how that would work, though. If the writers had picked a more realistic prey animal, that would provide for some actual tension here.

"Wait, what?" How did you NOT know, Angel? Wow, you really haven't been paying attention at all. You'd think the sight of a python trying and failing to eat an elephant wouldn't be something you'd soon forget...

"Bad snake!" Oh Celestia, the snake has actually eaten the elephant. Somehow. And she's still alive in there, too. Well, I guess we are going for comedy rather than horror, so there you go.

I can already hear the vore fans sharpen their pencils, too.

Fluttershy returns, exhausted. The veterninarian demands some carrot extract, which is locked in the supply room. And the keys are still inside Muriel's trunk. Who is still inside Antoine the snake.

Angel asks the animals for help, but of course they all snub him.

Angel admits what happened to the animals, and gets them to help. Snake lovers had better look away now...

They get the key out by squeezing Antoine between two branches like a rubber hose, and he spits Muriel out. Of course he is none too pleased, and makes to attack. This makes Muriel blow out the keys, so... good job? Antoine immediately stops being hostile, so that's convenient.

"I guess Fluttershy was right: predators and prey CAN work together." I wouldn't go that far... I mean, someone WAS eaten today.

Fluttershy gets some carrot juice, and they tell each other how hard their lives are.

"I can't believe you work here every day! These animals are crazy!" They sure are. It's a miracle it works as well as it does, really.

They both apologize, and the spell is undone.

"You wanna do WHAT?" Even Fluttershy can't believe her ears that Angel wants to actually help for a change, rather than being a jerk all the time. Not sure how he learned that lesson, but sure.

"Turns out your little friend doesn't have a problem at all. He isn't a gecko, he is a fire lizard." And that's why he was smoking. How Zecora could not figure that out on her own, let alone the veterinarian, OR Fluttershy, I'm not sure.

"I forgot that before they start flaming, it's hard to tell them apart." You'd think the smoke would be a dead giveaway, then. What a terrible veterinarian.

"Speaking of surprises, can you please never do that again?" What, forcing strange potions on ponies without so much as explaining what they do, or not sticking around to keep an eye on them? But that's Zecora's thing! She gets enjoyment out of it, I'm sure. Why else would she keep being so irresponsible with her magic?

See? She's coyly winking at the camera. She totally did this for shits and giggles.

A really fun episode, though it could have done a bit more with Fluttershy having to live the life of a bunny. We don't really get very much of that.

The episode also can't seem to decide whether to play Carnivore Confusion straight or subvert it. They seem to want to play it safe for the kids, yet at the same time go pretty far in their depiction of the python.

Surprised they didnt do this concept until the final season, considering how much of a stock cartoon plot it is. Glad they didnt go for one of the more obvious pairings as well.

@Redmess: To explain why the elephant is the specific animal that gets swallowed by the snake, according to the episode's trope page, it's a reference to a part in the book The Little Prince where a character draws a picture of a snake that swallowed an elephant but everyone who sees it thinks it's a picture of a hat instead.

Edited by Rainbow on Aug 31st 2019 at 6:11:48 AM

Are snakes eating elephants such a rare thing that it has to be a reference to The Little Prince? Because beyond the fact that there's a snake eating an elephant, I don't see any resemblance.

No species of snake eat any elephants. The simply can't due to their sheer body mass.

Ah, I didn't realize that. Then it must be a reference.