Custom titles undone

Quite a bit of pages are suffering from an inability to display a custom title like: The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, Avatar: The Last Airbender, and Super Mario Bros.. I assume this is an effect of the memory upgrade.

UPDATE:5/4/13 And it looks like they came back, but they just came undone again.

edited 4th May '13 6:08:42 PM by WaxingName

I think all of those are from a longstanding bug with multi-word namespaces, like I said in reply to StarSword's Ask The Tropers query on the subject of custom titling, and aren't specific to the current issue.

Copypasta of ATT comment, to save some trouble: "[T]there's a bug in the custom title system where those namespaces require that you submit the request as one word ("Videogame" instead of "VideoGame", f'rex) so they show up correctly on trope pages."

edited 30th Apr '13 4:28:39 PM by Nohbody

That's not the issue here, if you follow the links, though. They're not showing up even on the page itself, whereas with the bug, the title shows up on the page but not in the links. (Also, I'm pretty certain that the Avatar: The Last Airbender custom title used to work.)

Yeah, that's what I'm referring to.

Does this mean we'll have to retitle all of the detitled pages, or does that not even solve the problem?

Guys, AFAIK this is just now starting to come to staff attention, and Eddie isn't around ATM...we'll make it known to him ASAP.

edited 30th Apr '13 7:42:45 PM by Willbyr

Some of the custom titles on Main/ are still there or are returning. For example, You're Insane!

You're right, they are coming back. Majora's Mask has got its title fixed.

Now some of them haven't come back The16bit Era Of Console Video Games doesn't have its custom title back yet.

Some of us have been manually resubmitting missing custom titles.

I guess I should do the same, then.

Also, perhaps a note should be directly made on the custom title request page about the whole issue with namespaces so that the whole community knows about it.

That has been proposed several times already.

A lot of custom titles (except the oldest ones, as far as I understand) have been reset on Monday or Tuesday this week. I have manually resubmitted a whole bunch of them (listed on my user page) but all but two of them, strangely enough, were gone this morning. This seems to be a recurring problem. Back on Monday, I assumed it had to do with that memory maintenance that was announced last weekend, but now they seem to be unrelated.

EDIT: I am currently at a dilemma: manual custom titles resubmission process is very time-consuming, because you have to do it one at a time at the moment, yet there are no guarantees that the same glitch will not wipe out all your efforts four days later. On the other hand, if you don't do it, someone who wasn't told about the CamelCase namespace bug may submit the custom title wrongly and you'll be stuck with it forever unless the custom title reset glitch wipes it clean again. So, what should we do?

edited 4th May '13 9:35:35 AM by Koveras

I came in here with a shock that all the custom titles got reset and it seems it wasn't just me. I started to fix a couple, but then I realized, "What if they reset again?" or "What if I give the mods more work then they could handle?"

I think I'll refrain from going on a fixing spree until I get confirmation on how bad this bug is.

Yep; some of them have come undone again.

Well that's not good. I guess we'll have to tell everybody to stop using it until we get to the root of the matter, because this bug's a real cockroach.

Yes, I've noticed that a lot of custom titles have broken; Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage is one example. It's annoying to see new bugs like this, because the old bugs in the custom title system have gone unfixed for over a year.

And now selected titles just keep coming back up and going back down again.

Yup, definitely happening on my end, too. I submitted a custom title for Videogame.Dikembe Mutombos Four And A Half Weeks To Save The World a week or so ago. Showed up the next day. It's gone now.

Man, between this, the camel-case bug, and the quotation mark bug, this whole custom title setup is FUBAR.

Hopefully the new content delivery system that they're going to install this evening will set stuff straight.

After the reset, I resubmitted the custom title for DarthWiki.Half Life World Line, putting "Darthwiki" as one word to avoid the CamelCase namespace bug. That did nothing to fix the wick. The custom title shows up on the page, but not in wicks. *sigh* I dunno what to do.

So to correct the issue, we just need to resubmit the custom title? Artistic License – Awards and Artistic License – University Admissions had custom titles right before the bug showed up; should I just resubmit them?

^^It is DarthWiki. We don't approve typo fixes as custom titles.

Ahem, Eddie, the reason why custom titles are submitted as non-CamelCase versions is that those submitted with CamelCase don't work in wicks and can't be fixed by resubmitting, as lu127 told us.

edited 10th May '13 10:29:11 AM by SeptimusHeap

Eddie, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, or what your comment has to do with my comment. For instance, who said anything about a typo fix?

DarthWiki/ vs. Darthwiki/. Only the former is correct writing (not a typo, per se), but the custom title system blows up if you submit that.