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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#51: Mar 6th 2013 at 12:13:45 PM

You can be embarrassed about wanted attention too. And if you want to go by the words like that, since it includes jealousy, it would include any and all cases where someone is jealous of someone because of looks. And since it says suspicion as well, also any case where someone thinks the character may have gotten something at least partially because her looks rather than actual merits. Or someone who didn't get the role of the wicked witch because she wasn't ugly enough.

In other words, any time anything even remotely negative happens because of someone's good looks. And I think that's watering out the trope into meaningless.

It also claims to be a specific version of Blessed with Suck, which means subtrope, and that any example of this trope also fits Blessed with Suck.

edited 6th Mar '13 12:15:28 PM by AnotherDuck

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#52: Mar 6th 2013 at 12:23:23 PM

I could agree with it being a subtrope.

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#53: Mar 6th 2013 at 12:36:11 PM

^^ Yes, all those are covered. Also, there's no reason that a trope that is a subtrope of one wider trope can't also be the supertrope to a different, narrower trope.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#54: Mar 6th 2013 at 12:49:57 PM

The point was, are all those situations also examples of Blessed with Suck?

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#55: Mar 9th 2013 at 12:47:24 PM

So far all of the examples under Embarrassed Beauty would probably fit under So Beautiful, It's a Curse.

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#56: Mar 9th 2013 at 1:04:08 PM

I don't think so. The Girls Bravo is when he dresses up as a girl, and not normally a source of problems. Maicchingu Machiko-sensei has someone who isn't really affected by her beauty as much as what happens to her. The last one has someone who's cute, which is the equivalent of bringing up someone's baby photos and them being embarrassed about it.

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#57: Mar 17th 2013 at 8:23:21 AM

I've seen that Girls Bravo example and I'd definitely place it So Beautiful, It's a Curse. I don't think whatever problem a character's attractiveness is giving them has to be be a normal occurrence. As for the other two, if they don't have anything to do with a character's attractiveness they can be removed.

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#58: Apr 13th 2013 at 2:13:13 PM

So... I didn't realise Embarrassed Beauty hadn't been launched yet, and tagged it on TabletopGame.Gloom. <_< Can't we launch it yet?

The character in question, Elissandre DeVille, is an illustrated lady too modest to take her clothes off and put her tattoos on display (one of several acts at Dark's Den of Deformity that are less-than-sensible business decisions). It's definitely not a case of So Beautiful, It's a Curse.

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#59: Apr 14th 2013 at 10:01:03 AM

That sounds like a good example of the difference between the cursed one and embarrassed one. If it's her own personal sense of modesty you can't say that there's any curse on her because of her beauty.

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#60: Apr 14th 2013 at 10:10:13 AM

I fully support Embarrassed Beauty being its own trope. Being embarrassed is not a curse; it is a natural human reaction. The YKTTW has four hat; can we have one more please?

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#61: Apr 14th 2013 at 10:16:39 AM

Five hats aren't necessary. The problem we have is establishing what the relationship is between this trope and that YKTTW. Some people say they're the same and some people say they're not.

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#62: Apr 14th 2013 at 11:53:39 AM

And, as you say, Elissandre is a good example of how they are different.

I think So Beautiful, It's a Curse might possibly be a subtrope, but I think it's more likely that it's just a plot device whereas Embarrassed Beauty is a character type.

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#63: May 21st 2013 at 5:24:49 AM

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#64: May 27th 2013 at 1:18:15 AM

Locking.

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