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Prematurely launched pages, pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through YKTTW for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, no crosswicking etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

edited 8th Aug '17 10:10:12 AM by SeptimusHeap

May 30th 2014 at 12:39:06 AM

@From Breakout To Scrappy: Motion to cut. The last thing we need is more scrappy articles. Especially since it's just going to be a page for people to complain about Ensemble Darkhorses they don't like.

And it doesn't even have a YMMV banner. WTF.

edited 30th May '14 12:55:23 AM by MyTimingIsOff

nrjxll Relationship Status: Not war
May 30th 2014 at 12:59:18 AM

It was apparently intended to be launched as YMMV - the lack of a banner is probably just an accident or miscommunication.

That said, I agree that it should have never been launched. We don't need more Scrappy tropes, and this one in particular has some extra problems that are just going to make it a bashing magnet.

SeptimusHeap PCNA from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
PCNA
May 30th 2014 at 1:24:48 AM

I've gone ahead and cutlisted AscendedIndex.Ascended Index; ~Leftywright, if you still think it's index-worthy feel free to put it through YKTTW.

Worklist:

edited 30th May '14 1:24:57 AM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
May 30th 2014 at 3:23:23 AM

This Index Is On Purpose: I can see what the intent was, but I think Bad Writing Index covers the same ground. "When an author intentionally introduces flaws in their work", except we generally avoid determining if it was deliberate or accidental.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
May 30th 2014 at 7:09:18 AM

From Breakout To Scrappy: That's going to attract bashing like rolling tumbleweeds, and I can see no merit to it. Cut it with prejudice.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
May 30th 2014 at 9:45:08 PM

I also believe From Breakout To Scrappy should be cut, so that makes four motions to cut. Is this enough input to send it to the Cut List?

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
SeptimusHeap PCNA from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
PCNA
May 31st 2014 at 12:19:49 PM

Today's worklist is brief:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap PCNA from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
PCNA
Jun 1st 2014 at 11:52:01 AM

Today's worklist and some questions for some people:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
Jun 1st 2014 at 12:09:47 PM

@Princess Daisy: Cut it. She has her section in Characters.Super Mario Bros; no need for a stand alone page for any of the characters of the series, let alone one for one that's fairly minor in the series as a whole.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
Jun 1st 2014 at 5:01:10 PM

[up]There is no such thing as notability. If the page is properly written, formatted, etc, there's no reason not to have it. I'd say move it at this point.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Jun 1st 2014 at 5:19:09 PM

There's no reason to have a single character as a separate page either. As-is, it's just a duplicate and needlessly confuses things. It's not like Daisy has so many tropes she needs her own page; not to mention the fact it needs to be cut anyway for being in the wrong namespace.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Jun 1st 2014 at 5:31:35 PM

There Is No Such Thing As Notability applies to whether a work can have a wiki page, or whether an example from a work counts. Says so right on the page: "All works are notable." It doesn't trump reasonable organization of subpages.

edited 1st Jun '14 5:33:42 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
nrjxll Relationship Status: Not war
Jun 1st 2014 at 10:24:46 PM

The only reason I'm not comfortable with going ahead and cutlisting From Breakout To Scrappy is that I feel like it'll come across as stealth TRSing. While someone must have been asleep at the wheel for it to get launched, it's still not a YKTTW "crash" in the standard sense of this thread.

SeptimusHeap PCNA from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
PCNA
Jun 2nd 2014 at 5:36:04 AM

Couple of commentary first:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Jun 2nd 2014 at 6:40:55 AM

I'm not good at turning something into an index, can you give me an example on HOW I can do that?

SeptimusHeap PCNA from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
PCNA
Jun 2nd 2014 at 6:43:54 AM

~Orange Ratchet, you aren't supposed to turn anything into an index. You are supposed to index something.

Check Fan Fic; that is an index page. The bullets are the indexed items.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Jun 2nd 2014 at 6:45:33 AM

I thought you WANTED me to put indexing on the pages! That's what you told me the first time.

Jun 2nd 2014 at 6:49:26 AM

All right, check the pages. Am I doing something right now?

SeptimusHeap PCNA from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
PCNA
Jun 2nd 2014 at 6:52:31 AM

<Looks at pages>

No, still the same mistake as before (the procedure is wrong); I've indexed them now; check what I did here and here.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Jun 2nd 2014 at 6:55:45 AM

Oh, you're supposed to put them in DIFFERENT pages? Okay, I did not know that. I thought you were referring to something else. Okay, I think I got it now.

Jun 2nd 2014 at 6:57:57 AM

I even did it for the Heartwarming page for Total Drama Equestria, so check that out! Hopefully, this time it's right!

Larkmarn Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Jun 2nd 2014 at 7:02:21 AM

The creator of Princess Daisy knows about the Characters.Super Mario Bros page so I don't think we need to message them about it.

SeptimusHeap PCNA from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
PCNA
Jun 2nd 2014 at 7:08:26 AM

~Orange Hatchet: Aye, this time it's working.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Jun 2nd 2014 at 7:14:51 AM

Awesome! Thanks for the help!

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
Jun 2nd 2014 at 7:49:27 AM

@This Index Is On Purpose: It's just a duplicate stub. Cutlist that thing.

edited 2nd Jun '14 7:52:21 AM by Elbruno

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."

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