Uh....this looks like a The Same But More Specific Robin Hood. Like, too specific.
edited 21st Feb '12 12:51:41 AM by lu127
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Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
^ You mean Just Like Robin Hood? There are examples that fit under this that don't fit under that (for instance, the Game of Shadows example.)
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You mean the Holmes example?
Yes it does. Jlrh is a character trope. This is a specific variant where a character acts like robin hood for one villain. Moriarty was rich, and his money was donated to charity without his consent.
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Perhaps if we rename it Unwitting Charity Donation and get rid of the requirement than a good character do it to an evil one?
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I see the Awesomeness.
This seems like a related trope to Just Like Robin Hood. Like crazy said, Just Like Robin Hood is a type of character, this seems to be an action you can take. It is also a really good way of screwing over someone you dislike through Batman Gambit I think.
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Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
So, if we're considering changes other than just renaming, does that mean the crowner should be changed? (I wasn't really expecting a trope redesign.)
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I see the Awesomeness.
Hm, this seems like a trope missing a supertrope as well. Something where the "victim" can't undo something because it would cost them reputation points.
Like the scene in Serenity where they're discussing how they're going to get away with robbing the bank and the private contractors can't call in bounties or anything because it will make them look weak. The basic event is very similar, a Batman Gambit where the victim has to hide the fact they were taken advantage of. Whether it was "looking weak" or "looking like a deuchebag" doesn't strike me as important. I think it would be a better idea to create that broader trope than to simply rename this trope.
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If it comes to reputation points, then the Holmes movie wouldn't be an example. Although he did have the money stolen from him, he wouldn't have been able to take it back from the charity. Reputation didn't stop him; a lack of life did.
Your idea sounds like it needs running through YKTTW first. This trope should either be left as-is, merged into Just Like Robin Hood with a soft split, or Just Like Robin Hood needs a wick check to determine if we need to grab any one-off misuse that belong on this page instead.
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Involuntary Charity Donation, I think. Unwitting could be accidental.
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
So, should we call for a new crowner? These are the options I'm seeing so far:
- Rename to Involuntary Charity Donation. Clean up distinction between this and Just Like Robin Hood.
- Rename to Unwitting Charity Donation. Clean up etc.
- Merge with Just Like Robin Hood.
(Also, if we're considering a merge, whoever hollers for a new crowner should also holler to change the thread title.)
edited 26th Feb '12 6:47:22 PM by feotakahari
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Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
Bumped and hollered for a new crowner and a topic rename.
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Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
Bumped again. No response to holler. What exactly do I do now? Does the current crowner need more votes before it can be called, or should a new crowner be made?
edited 5th Mar '12 7:14:18 PM by feotakahari
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It would take 11 unopposed nay votes to tie up the crowner.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
Okay, I'll holler for a new crowner again.
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Zzzzzzzzzz
Single Prop crowner locked because more than just a rename appears to be needed.
Page action blank hooked.
edited 5th Mar '12 9:14:43 PM by Madrugada
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Gentleman Troper!
Doesn't Thank You Mister Evil sound just like Nice Job Fixing It, Villain?
Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
Bumping for a few more votes.
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Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
Looks like a majority, and I'm not sure how many more votes there'll be on such a minor trope. Should we call the crowner?
(Also, if we do call the crowner, who'll take charge of the cleanup? I'd rather not put in the time, but I'll do it if no one else wants to—my complaint, my responsibility, after all.)
edited 15th Mar '12 6:52:54 PM by feotakahari
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Ravenous Sophovore
Calling crowner in favor of renaming to Involuntary Charity Donation and clarifying distinction with Just Like Robin Hood.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
I moved Thank You Mister Evil and all its correct wicks to Involuntary Charity Donation and updated Renamed Tropes and the FAQ thread
I also added a note about Just Like Robin Hood on Involuntary Charity Donation, but as I am not good at writing descriptions someone might look over it.
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Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
Edited the note. Is there anything else to do here?
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Zzzzzzzzzz
Looks done. Locking.
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Vote up for yes, down for no.
I'm not actually sure what it could be renamed to—it's a very specific trope that's hard to come up with a short name for—but of course, I'm looking for suggestions.
Edit: Oops, got the name wrong in the link. It's Thank You Mister Evil.
edited 21st Feb '12 12:42:24 AM by feotakahari
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