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I have to say that the X Men franchise has been going on for decades. Maybe not as many as the Superman franchise has, but it still has quite a number to it.
One thing I am certain of is that the franchise seems to be subverting Status Quo Is God in recent years. Magneto and Professor Xavier seem to be fading into the background, with Cyclops and Wolverine taking their places. A lot of villains associated to the X-Men have been killed off and have actually stayed dead so far.
All this gives me the general impression that the franchise is trying to reinvent itself. Do you think that's what's going on here?
Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 29th 2023 at 10:02:23 AM
Surrounded by weirdoes
You know, at this point, with all that has happened, at what point did the mutants become an entire civilization of Kennys?
Wake me up at your own risk.
Ever since Jean Grey came back to life. "Mutant heaven has no pearly gates, merely revolving doors."
The Head of the Hydra
So is Xavier commissioning for Mutant made movies, TV shows & novels?
Cause aside from generating more instance of Mutant culture, soft power would do wonders to raise Krakoa’s relationship & influence of the common people of other nations.
South Korea managed to make it big on the international stage through its pop culture. If Xavier really wants to take over the world then he’s gotta make a good drama or music group. 
Edited by slimcoder on Mar 24th 2020 at 8:54:27 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Professional Complainer
Claremont X-Men was basically a mutant telenovella.
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
Gail Simone called it the shounen manga of its day, and...she’s right.
Mutant culture was apparently a thing before House of M and the Decimation, but how would you make that unique? Let’s say Xavier and Magneto go on stage and go “Ok, we would like to start making something a bit less...physical than products, like music, or television. What do you, as mutants, want to see in a Tv show?” If they went into focus group mode, what comes out?
The problem with Mutant culture (well less a problem with the concept and more with Marvel itself) is that Mutants were never meant to be a species/race with its own unique culture. Hell, Stan Lee created the concept of Mutants in the Marvel Universe so he wouldn't have to keep coming up with different explanations for why different characters had super powers.
For all that can be said about them, the Inhumans having a unique culture of their own has stuck because that is how they were developed and created. By contrast, all Mutants come from a variety of countries, religions and cultures which can run into Unfortunate Implications when it looks like this new Mutant culture is erasing those unique backgrounds.
Surrounded by weirdoes
It's a problem they kind of turned Mutants into its own kind of minority on the bottom of the totem pole. Seems something they aren't going back on, so might as well have them develop their own culture.
Wake me up at your own risk.
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
Yeah. Mutants stopped being part of humanity and started being their own race.
There's interesting ideas to explore with that, but the whole point is that despite their powers, Mutants were still humans. I mean, that's why the Sentinels rebelled and opted to conquer the world in the first place: Mutants are humans. We are protecting mankind from themselves.
But it's not the first time they doubled down on certain concepts.
One Strip! One Strip!
The advantage of the medium is that they can make "mutant" pop culture things, and the only things they need to do is to have characters with very obvious mutations on stage. They don't need to show us how do those things truly look like, just tell us they are. We don't need them to create a whole new genre just for a Show Within a Show.
Ultimate Secret Wars
The reason that the Sentinels tried to take over the world was not because mutants were human, it was because all humans could become mutants. In fact, a bunch of Sentinels determined that the "cause" of mutation was UV radiation, so they went off to fight the sun.
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
The Head of the Hydra
I mean Krakoa is no different from the U.S., we're basically a hodgepodge of a different cultures & people as well as being very malleable to our original beliefs in a new environment.
Only difference is Krakoa is making an effort to keep the people united while here we're...... still sorting things out.
Might as well make some fun culture while we're at it. First ever Mutant novelist & what hell maybe someone start a Mutant-based pornography company. With the amount of Mutants with animal traits, they'll definitely lock in the furry market.
There was already mutant brothel. It's a short skip from there to mutant pornography.
The Head of the Hydra
How the Hell do you unknowingly fund a brothel?
That's fucking hilarious. ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
It was during Chuck Austen's run. We don't talk about it.
...MUTANTS CAN'T GET AIDS.
I'd love to see that retconned as something that was believed for a time but was later proven incorrect.
To be fair... why would mutants be able to get AIDS if they have a very different biology from humans?
I can just see the Dark Comedy situation happening where a mutant regenerates, says he's gonna attack from the right this time...jumpcut to him emerging from the pod again.
"I'll try and catch Dr. Deathsatan off guard this time!"
"Hey."
"Hi Dr. Deathsatan...oh. Ohh—-" KRAKOOM!!
Edited by NickTheSwing on Mar 25th 2020 at 1:25:35 AM
Heya there! I'm West.
You know, sometimes the simplicity of Spidey Super Stories makes the quick one-page origins get so simple it lacks stuff. Most mutants are referred as "born with a special power", but then, Hank is referred as a scientist who tried to figure out what causes superpowers and an experiment changed him into the Beast with no mention of mutant stuff.
If there's a book you want to read, but it hasn't been written yet, then you must write it. Toni Morrison
Okay that one I can't answer.
Goku Black
The answer is Chuck Austen is an idiot.
Professional Complainer
IIRC Angel's thing at the time was having healing blood.
I'm pretty certain that is the case since the resurrection protocols activated after the suicide mission in space (the attempt to stop the Orchis solar base).
OTOH there is Kate's death in Marauders, but that might be more due to her intangibility powers (for some reason).