Marvel Cinematic Universe

I'm suddenly thinking of how Daredevil on FX or Hulu could be described as Law & Order but with vigilantes kicking bad guys in the teeth.

Not sure how much of a sell that would be though...

Considering all the Law & Orders there are, it could work.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

I would watch it. Hell, that's what I wanted from a daredevil show from the get go. The best stretch so far was for me the very beginning, when he helped Karen, and the trial of the Punisher (as well as everything which lead up to it). I was extremely annoyed that Foggy had to take over.

Personally, my favorite "Lawyer Matt" moment was in Defenders when he dismantles the army of lawyers from a big corporation completely by himself.

I want to see more of that: Matt and Foggy are supposed to be boderline supernaturally capable lawyers, but that was the only time the sub-franchise actually shows that.

Now, if only the rest of the show was as good...

I recall reading Charles Soule’s She-Hulk (Soule himself being a practicing lawyer), and what I found most interesting was that of the many cases Jen Walters was commissioned with, only one of them actually went to trial. All the rest were settled, so the main challenge was what was the right bargain to offer.

If you were expecting the inevitable Black Widow movie to be rated R, we got bad news about that.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 23rd 2019 at 1:46:31 PM

Thank god! I don't think that Black Widow needs to or should be R-rated.

I wanted to, but I can make do without. Rating =/= quality, after all.

I'd like Daredevil to do more episodes like S1E3. That is to say, interspersing Matt Murdock's courtroom drama during the day with Daredevil beating the shit outta trial-related people during the night.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!

I just want him to have deal with different villains. In Season 1, we had Fisk, which was good. In Season 2, we had the Punisher (which was good) and the Hand (which was meh). And then in Season 3, we are back with Fisk and a little bit of Bullseye.

Fisk, I think, should be the background villain, always waiting in the wings, while Matt deals with other villains. But aside from a few episodes in Season 1, that's never really happened.

Yep, exactly. That's what is missing from Daredevil.

I guess they will have to bring back Elektra...but maybe they will find a way to salvage her.

Edited by Swanpride on Feb 23rd 2019 at 11:59:01 AM

So apparently incels and assholes are review-bombing the film already.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.

I'm actually hoping that they will make an Elektra mini-series, something around six or seven episodes. Having an entire show that focuses on her character without Matt would be more interesting than having us see her as Matt's former girlfriend again/current enemy again. And this way, they could try and redeem her away from Matt and actually give her someone else to fight.

They could even base it on Greg Rucka's ''Elektra'' run, which is pretty damn good.

Edited by alliterator on Feb 23rd 2019 at 12:07:54 PM

I'd have done a season 4 of Daredevil focusing on Mr. Fear and adapting a mix of Mr. Fear's finest hour "Without Fear" and the other Mind Screw DD arc "Guardian Devil" (parts of it being also present in season 3). That should provide a nifty change of pace.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

I have by now some sort of mental bingo card regarding the Captain Marvel anti-campaign. It contains "Black Widow", "Captain Marvel should be black", "The tracking is sliding", "Alita Battle angle", and a lot of paranoid assumptions about Endgame. The review bombing of Rotten Tomatoes is just another piece in the "Brie Larson scares away fans" narrative.

Rotten Tomatoes really needs to vet the people who do things like review bombing. They've gotten to the point where people actually take them seriously as a review site, so things like that look increasingly unprofessional.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

I personally think they should stop using Fisk by now. He is great, yes, but let's not have him overstay his welcome.

His arc ended in an appropriate way. Maybe have Vanessa step up as a main villain instead.

Edited by Forenperser on Feb 23rd 2019 at 9:36:43 PM

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Both of which are bad faith arguments, since these people don't care about Black Widow or Monica Rambeau getting their own films. All they care about is tearing the movie down because Brie Larson had the gall to point out the obvious: that white males were overwhelming the ones interviewing her and she felt that more women and POC interviewers should be allowed.

I would welcome having him appear two or three times a season, like he did in Season 2, which was excellent, but yeah, let's not have him overstay his welcome. Making Vanessa Fisk into the new Kingpin would be very interesting.

Edited by alliterator on Feb 23rd 2019 at 12:41:11 PM

Well, there's a perfectly acceptable subistitute to Fisk's Crime Boss role: The Owl.

We already know Owlsley has a son, and the Owl has the added benefit of, differently from Fisk, being impossible to talk things out with. He could make a great villain.

Also, they could adapt Echo and the "Out" storyline, too.

I'd love to see Echo — an actual Native American character with a different disability than Matt's and an interesting power to boot. Of course, I'd hope they would skip over the part where she and Matt are enemies because of the Kingpin — which was just a retread of Elektra's story — and go right to the part where they are allies.

Ooh, she could even be a part of the New Defenders, if that ever exists. (Personally, I would prefer it if they used the name "Marvel Knights.")

I'd also love to see Mary Walker reappear. She was excellent in the second season of Iron Fist and needs to show up more. (Perhaps Vanessa Fisk could hire her as a bodyguard?)

Edited by alliterator on Feb 23rd 2019 at 1:05:49 AM

I don't mind Echo starting out as enemy to Matt after all, Elektra never really took that role in the show. Even when she was brain washed I just never bought her actually killing Matt.

I wouldn't want Vanessa Fisk to immediately assume her husband's role as Kingpin of crime. I feel it'd be too abrupt and also too soon after the whole epic resolution of season 3 hinged on a absolutely epic moment of dismantling Fisk's organization and having Matt do the whole Mutually Assured Destruction bargain with Fisk. I'd want a hypothetical season 4 to have Vanessa being pushed further and further to pick up her husband's empire as he's behind bars, but having it be a slow and minor process full of reluctance.

Myself, I'd adapt the arc in the comics where a minor underling of Fisk stages a coup against Fisk and has him stabbed, something that leaves him dead/medically blind for some time as that underling haphazardly takes over Fisk's organization. As Fisk is physically incapacitated, Vanessa is forced to deal with her husband's organization herself to keep the Fisks from being swallowed whole in the criminal game. Plus it'd be interesting to see Wilson Fisk in a physically vulnerable state (given he's a terrifying behemoth of a man) with such a ironic side-effect and it'd allow Vanessa to swap the roles and protect Fisk rather than be protected by him.

I'd do all of this as a subplot though, to the main plot of Mr. Fear fucking with Matt and Hell's Kitchen as a whole and possibly with The Owl picking up Fisk's pieces. Season 5 could be Vanessa Fisk as full-on Kingpin in a Gang War with The Owl.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

It would never work in Netflix continuity, since Fisk and Vanessa only met in Season 1, but I always wanted to see an adaptation of The Schemer storyline. Basically, a new gang leader villain shows up, trying to take down Wilson Fisk. He's a threat to Spider-Man because of his ability to plan ahead and set layers upon layers of traps to take him down. At the end, it's revealed that The Schemer was actually Wilson's son, Richard Fisk, whom he thought had died years ago.

Oscars tomorrow. If Black Panther wins Best Picture, I'll eat a burger. (If not, I'll eat one anyway).

Edit: Green Book won. I'll still eat a burger.

Edited by Lymantria on Feb 28th 2019 at 5:46:35 AM

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