Why bother renaming Buxom Is Better? It got cleaned up a while ago, and is good now.
I agree with pretty much everything else, though I think this should probably be in TRS.
World of Buxom is generally an art style trope, where any character that isn't a generic blob character is busty unless the artist intentionally designs a small chested character, who will most likely have A-Cup Angst.
Fight smart, not fair.Correct, Buxom Is Better does not need to be renamed. I just copied directly out of his post. Good point about TRS though, I'll holler for a Move.
Good idea.
Those will almost always be a Token Loli (Token Pettanko for more of a general term) or meant to invoke that trope as pandering to the other side.
Anyways I support this greatly, as did many others although I dont think anyone was willing to do the leg work. (which is why the thread was locked.)
edited 3rd Jul '11 4:11:55 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!Due to RL, I might not be as active in the next Two weeks. Nonetheless, I will still sponsor at least two of these on YKTTW.
EDIT: World of Buxom YKTTW here
edited 3rd Jul '11 7:05:59 PM by pokedude10
I think it might be best to drop the hermaphrodite description. I've never ever seen another trope that makes the distinction—and it would mean that every trope mentioning gender ought to shift it.
Well there is a rule in Hentai a Futanari is always bigger (in both departments) Big Dickus and Buxom Is Better.
edited 3rd Jul '11 8:10:20 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!Good point. I edited the description in the post to remove those.
I think that's a trope on it's own.
I'm going to try to keep the OP updated with current ideas.
edited 3rd Jul '11 8:58:23 PM by pokedude10
Yeah, lets keep the porn tropes off on their own.
Fight smart, not fair.As I was directed to this when I commented in the YKKTW for World of Buxom:
What should it be named?
edited 4th Jul '11 10:46:14 AM by halfmillennium
The Artist Likes Boobs if you want to hit the nail on the head.
Fight smart, not fair.Aight here's my thoughts
- Buxom Is Better: Just simplify this to explicit cases where a character who is attractive or considered more because of her big breasts. (implicit cases just invite assumptions and Fetish Fuel)
- Busty Babe: Needs A Better Title, and Needs A Better Description for that matter. Fetish Fuel should never be be used as the parameters for a trope and it's definitely not the opposite of Pettanko (a trope that has to do with the typical personalties that come with flat chested characters, not Fanservice).
Like I said the title needs to be more specific, or you're going to get a lot of literal cases of "attractive busty character". The description has me worried that any busty cleavage bearing women is fair game.
Also, those internal subtropes, don't need em. They're just playing with Buxom Is Better.
- World Of Buxom: Needs to be specific on with it's just the main cast, or just about everyone, main cast, background, and non speaking characters etc...
Buxom Sells: This whole trope doesn't work without Word of God. Not only that but works don't sell themselves, this trope should be about advertisements and promotions. I would change the description to deal with cases where a character is depicted with a much larger bust in the promotions and ads than the actual works.
Those are my thoughts.
Won't lie, I'm a bit apprehensive about this, with the exception of Buxom Is Better (which we already have), these new one's just feel like we're creating tropes for the sole propose of pointing out that a character has big boobs. If that's really the case, then as much as I would hate this, I would say make a Busty Character trope and call it day. There's only so many ways you can point out a character has big boobs.
edited 4th Jul '11 2:34:45 PM by captainpat
I would say that World Of Buxom would include anything where all the characters with any kind of detail are busty, except for the previously mentioned token characters (or five year olds, whatever). If the artist uses a generic silhouette blob for background characters, I'm not going to call that a violation, just lazy/economic art work.
Fight smart, not fair.What if there's only say 12 characters of detail in the work and 10 of them are busty, would that still qualify? Because that sounds silly with a name like World of Buxom. There's gotta to be more to this trope than simply pointing out that the majority of the cast share a feature.
Not always Some artists (Ken Akamatsu for one) like them that way but still draw the full spectrum. They just pander to other crowds as well.
Actually no Pettanko is the catch all for all the small breasted tropes we split the personalities of Pettanko into A-Cup Angst and Petite Pride. (A-Cup Angst actually doesnt require the person to actually be flat just angsty at her small size I mean a P Cup could be in this trope if they were played that way, B Gata H Kei is an example of a B Cup that acts the part.) Busty Babe would be the exact opposite as well as exampleless only used in Wicks.
The actual Buxom Is Better subtropes would go under that and it would stop the misuse of Bigger Breasts Are Better with a place to link she has big breasts and shows it off or the Camera shows it of via Male Gaze like one of these shots. [1]◊
edited 4th Jul '11 5:16:25 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!Someone made a thread for this already? Well, no harm done.
@captainpat: I don't see why Busty Babe's subtropes are unnecessary. And as for Fetish Fuel, there is such a thing as Playing to the Fetishes.
edited 4th Jul '11 4:32:37 PM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Here's the first sentence Pettanko
If anything the opposite of this trope is Big Breasts Big Deal
All, why wouldn't that picture example you put simply go under Male Gaze? We don't need to differient whether the gaze is directed to a character's breasts or bust unless it's that exclusive.
Hot Busty Babe: Overlaps with Buxom Is Better
Abhorred Busty Babe: Subverted Buxom Is Better
Ignored Busty Babe: unless you're requiring the character have an a reaction over the fact that the other character's are ignoring her breasts (which would just be a subversion of Buxom Is Better) then this pointing out big breasted characters.
Playing to the Fetishes: Best the check the trs thread
edited 4th Jul '11 4:35:55 PM by captainpat
Buxom Is Better is supposed to be rewritten. See the above scheme.
And yeah, I only noticed the TRS when I decided to check the trope page on a whim after I made my previous post.
edited 4th Jul '11 4:39:46 PM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.I did but I don't think it should have any suptropes.
Not my point (Male Gaze is anywhere on the female body but the face) The point is the girl or the show has to show it off.
If she tries to hide them via Sarashi or loose clothing is a separate trope.
My original idea was restricting it to Drawn Busty as there is a reason for the way a character is created with a rack. Same way a Pettanko character is created. (Although more so in japanese works as Big boobs are egregiously rare.
Watch this vid she has got the rack and the camera rarely actually focuses on them, is she calling attention to them oh hell yeah (Stairway to Heaven Shirt of all things then wearing a shirt really showing it off.)
That is a holdover from before the split and should be on A-Cup Angst.
edited 4th Jul '11 6:08:09 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!Pettanko isn't a trope. It's an example-less definition page for a Japanese term. Petite Pride, and A-Cup Angst are tropes and they're both based on personality more than breast size. There's no need for a counterpart to Pettanko itself because it's not a trope.
As for the vid, I'd say it calls attention to her hair more. It looks like someone showing off animation skills more than anything. Look we can make her walk, jiggle, oh, look at all the cool stuff we can do with her hair. It didn't seem like the size of her breasts was important.
edited 4th Jul '11 6:29:43 PM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickWith that said, should Busty Babe be example less as well? YMMV maybe?
Busty Babe is not a fan speak term. It's not something we're giving a definition to. It's not a trope. It doesn't need a page.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickAccidental post.
edited 4th Jul '11 10:44:02 PM by pokedude10
Howdy.
You've probably seen one of the many attempts to to work on Breast tropes. I have tried to help on many of them. On one in particular Marq FJA proposed a idea to reformat the Buxom tropes. Unfortunately, There wasn't much response, and the thread moved on.
So here is the proposal directly out of his post. Edit: I'm going to treat this as a Psuedo-YKKW, and edit this as ideas come in. No examples Please, Put those in the Appropriate YKKW.
Of course, there is a reason behind the last two tropes...
Also Marq FJA suggested one as a extension to World of Buxom.
World of Buxom is up.
Contrived Coincidence Of Several Buxom Babes YKTTW
This looks like a good way to reformat these pages. Ideas are welcome.
edited 22nd Jul '11 8:17:19 PM by pokedude10