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First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.

With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.

First, a few starter questions.

  • How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
  • Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
    • Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
  • Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
  • Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?

Also, a personal question from me.

  • Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?

edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#19051: Nov 19th 2018 at 5:39:06 AM

One of his victims was an young teenage boy (I forgot what ethnicity he was but I think he was native)
The boy was Filipino, for what it's worth.

Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 19th 2018 at 6:39:44 AM

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#19052: Nov 19th 2018 at 12:45:57 PM

Man who yelled "Heil Hitler. Heil Trump" said that it was suppose to be satirical comparing Trump's anti-immigration policies to Nazism

Maybe he's telling the truth or lying to save his ass. Either way, he didn't think it through.

Edited by NoName999 on Nov 19th 2018 at 12:52:26 PM

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#19053: Nov 19th 2018 at 12:48:52 PM

You can compare Trump to Nazis at an actual political protest where bystanders who aren't Republican wouldn't mind.

This reeks of someone who accepted a dare from Stormfront or 4chan to "scare dem kikes where they congregate most".

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#19054: Nov 19th 2018 at 12:53:41 PM

> Maybe he's telling the truth or lying to save his ass. Either way, he didn't think it through.

He's lying,you dont satire during a performance,that's just rude

He knew what he was doing,likely to get attention...and it worked

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Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#19055: Nov 19th 2018 at 5:04:28 PM

That just comes across as some alt-right person trying to save their own ass.

I have seen an disturbing amount of people on the alt-right that pretty much are flatout nazis and are in some cases proud of it. They'll call you the nazi though for calling them out on their ignorant, dangerous, and bigoted views.

Projection is a hell of a drug in the alt-right.

SteamKnight Since: Jun, 2018
#19056: Nov 20th 2018 at 11:49:22 AM

Yeah, I don't see anything satirical about this. I mean who or what is that guy even trying to expose or criticize in the first place there? Satire can be absurd, but it is never stupid.

I'm not as witty as I think I am. It's a scientifically-proven fact.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#19057: Nov 20th 2018 at 11:54:17 AM

"He's lying,you dont satire during a performance,that's just rude

He knew what he was doing,likely to get attention...and it worked "

Satire can be rude and often is about getting atention and I disagree with [up], it can be stupid, tropes are tool and all that.

But it dosent change anything anyway.

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SteamKnight Since: Jun, 2018
#19058: Nov 20th 2018 at 12:02:49 PM

[up] Well, stupid satire just don't work. It's like calling an unfunny story as a comedy. Maybe I should called it successful or functional satire next time.

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#19059: Nov 20th 2018 at 12:15:38 PM

The problem with satire is that satire is only satire if it works. If it doesn't, if it's perceived as being what it's satirizing, it's failed to a degree that it contributes to the problem it's trying to address.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#19060: Nov 20th 2018 at 12:22:23 PM

" It's like calling an unfunny story as a comedy."

But they are comedy who are unfunny for some reason or another, sometimes you try to do a satire and it fails in the same way a comedy can fail and not be funny, it dosent stop being what it is.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#19061: Nov 20th 2018 at 1:56:34 PM

Satire can be rude and often is about getting atention and I disagree with [up], it can be stupid, tropes are tool and all that.

But it dosent change anything anyway.

It wasn't satire though, satire specifically refers to mocking something to make a point. They did not make any kind of point and thus their 'satire' was nothing but a pathetic excuse used to cowardly avoid responsibility.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Nov 20th 2018 at 4:56:49 AM

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#19062: Nov 20th 2018 at 3:25:58 PM

[up]Techinicly he did mock something in order to make a point(o so he claims anyway, Im not dying in this hill for him), my point is that you can make a satire and fail but that dosent stop him for be satire.

That being siad is irrelevant a this point.

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Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#19063: Nov 20th 2018 at 4:10:34 PM

I have noticed quite a lot that whenever some idiot makes an offensive joke that they will try to claim that its satire.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#19064: Nov 20th 2018 at 4:11:18 PM

A Cross-Post from General US Politics and What the Fuck Just Happened Today that seems like it might be relevant here:

The FBI now classifies the far-right organization known as the Proud Boys as an extremist group. The group has be designated as an "extremist group with ties to white nationalism," according to documents produced by Washington state law enforcement. The document also warns that the Proud Boys are "actively recruiting in the Pacific north-west" and that they have "contributed to the recent escalation of violence at political rallies held on college campuses, and in cities like Charlottesville, Virginia, Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/19/proud-boys-fbi-classification-extremist-group-white-nationalism-report

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#19065: Nov 20th 2018 at 4:50:32 PM

Another post I saw claimed that the guy was attempting to draw parallels to a scene in the play where a wedding is interrupted by czarist goons, and to me that sounds plausible. It's still stupid as hell, especially because any satire that requires you to shout 'Heil Hitler' in a crowded theater still involves you shouting 'Heil Hitler' in a crowded theater, but I can see what he was going for. It was just a really dumb idea.

It's been fun.
Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#19066: Nov 20th 2018 at 5:26:37 PM

They should be classified as a terrorist group as that pretty much is what they are.

SteamKnight Since: Jun, 2018
#19067: Nov 20th 2018 at 6:09:53 PM

[up][up][up][up] That is pretty much a thing at this point and the equivalent of someone claiming that the story or fanfic they wrote is a comedy or parody if it sucks.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#19068: Nov 20th 2018 at 6:24:19 PM

[up][up]Or at least a run of the mill criminal organization. Seriously, some chapters do the whole Gang Initiation Fight thing.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Nov 20th 2018 at 10:24:36 AM

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#19070: Nov 20th 2018 at 7:03:44 PM

[up]Sadly, this sort of thing (though not always involving Somali's or racism,) is commonplace. There's at least one incident involving an asshole fastfood employee and someone with a gun per week.

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#19071: Nov 22nd 2018 at 9:02:22 AM

In Bosnia, Entrenched Ethnic Divisions Are a Warning to the World. Pretty different from the kind of institutional racism that usually gets discussed here, but nonetheless a sobering look at how ethnic divisions create conflicting, parallel societies.

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#19072: Nov 23rd 2018 at 7:58:37 PM

Crossposting from the RIP thread:

Olivia Hooker, One Of The Last Surviving Tulsa Race Riot Witnesses, Dies At 103:

Olivia Hooker was 6 during the Tulsa Race Riot. She died Wednesday at 103 and was one of the last surviving witnesses to what is seen as one of the worst incidents of racial violence in U.S. history.

Edited by rmctagg09 on Nov 23rd 2018 at 10:58:51 AM

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#19074: Nov 25th 2018 at 6:11:08 AM

What inspires these people to come out and say the most idiotic things?

That's all I can really say about this.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#19075: Nov 25th 2018 at 6:24:46 AM

To attract attention, aside from his writing career no one cared who he was before but now I'm sure he's attracted a lot of buzz.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Nov 25th 2018 at 9:25:10 AM

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