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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
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Like Sam letting a bunch of rich criminals go because apparently arresting them will ruin the economy.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
What the fuck?
That isn't entirely what happened. Sam pointed out that while they could avoid prison, they'd still be subject to a very long trial that would prove to be bad PR (there have been real life instances of people whose lives were wrecked by high profile trials despite not going to jail). So Sam says to pick a fall guy among their group. They pick the chairman of the board to take the fall.
Spencer's questionable stuff is mostly Secret Empire and that's mostly because Marvel made him bring back Good Steve and replace Sam with him.
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Secret Empire has the feel of something that was changed partway through.
Even before the change in direction, it was a bland, boring dreary event.
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Queen of Neith
I'm not here to derail the thread, but I have to break the sad news about comics.
In June 27, 2018 - Spider-Man's co-creator, Steve Ditko passed away at age 90 due to heart failure.
He will be dearly missed.
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Two New What If... issues coming in October
"What If Flash Was Spider-Man?"
"What if Peter Was The Punisher?"
Edited by Zarius on Jul 16th 2018 at 1:44:04 AM
This is the third What If? they've done where Flash got bitten.
I miss Flash.
Y'know, one of the "What If Someone ELSE was Bitten by the Spider?" routes I'm suprised they haven't taken is "What If Harry Osborn was Bitten by the Spider?"
Also, I wonder if the Spidey What Ifs are set before Spider-Verse, because if they were tie-ins to Spider-Geddon they would be marketed as such.
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] For some reason I thought that had already happened, but I guess I must have misremembered. Though ultimately I think he'd be more or less the same, in the sense that he still an Ax-Crazy Corrupt Corporate Executive with superpowers.
Though I guess that DOES leave the question of who rises to oppose him...
Edited by Aleistar on Jul 16th 2018 at 9:50:40 AM
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What if Norman got bit?
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A Harry who got bit was in Web-Warriors, though he was also a Goblin who used his "hybrid" powers to overthrow his father.
A story where Norman got bit is going to be in one of the Spider-Geddon tie-ins.
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Sweet.
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What if Jameson got bit?
Norman Osbourne: I would like to recreate the Parker Oz accident under more scientific environments. Please, consider this: if the spider venom gave Parker the enhanced strengths of a spider — then treating the Oz with my own DNA and injecting it mainline... will what? It will give me the enhanced strengths... of me.
Random scientist: You, sir? You want to inject yourself with the Oz compound?
Norman Osbourne: Glad we understand each other. Let's crunch some numbers and get this next phase rolling along.
And the rest, as they say, is history.
Ultimate Secret Wars
Ugh, I know you're a fan of the Ultimate Universe, but according to this solicit (at the bottom of the page) this isn't really based on the Ultimate Universe
The question was "What if Norman got bit?". In that comic (that lasted much longer and got into much higher detail than a mere one-shot event like Spidergedon will do) there was a clear answer to that question. Of course, other comics may provide alternative answers.
Ultimate Secret Wars
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But that didn't have Norman get spider powers
That's completely not in spirit with my suggestion
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A story where the villain has the same powers than the hero? Isn't that a bit overused?
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And that's not the issue being considered, since solicits indicate that Spider!Norman will be opposed by a Goblin-esque Harry. Not the same set of powers.
Also Ultimate never really gave Norman the same powers as Peter, at least not in a "both are Spider-Men" way.
And if you DO consider them as having the same powers etc, wouldn't that be "overused," to use your term?
Edited by Aleistar on Jul 17th 2018 at 3:03:33 PM
You're right. They should do something original, like turn Norman Osborn into the Hulk.
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The original context of this conversation was regarding What If? stories about non-Peters getting spider powers
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Edited by Zarius on Jul 17th 2018 at 1:46:35 AM
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General consensus is that the unintended message of the run was 'Both sides are equally bad so the best thing to do is nothing.'
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