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  • Broken Base: Several examples.
    • CJ McCreery, even disregarding what he did. Was he a great, if not different replacement for Tom whose increased range and more brutal vocal style helped them become a heavier band and allowed them to take Immortal in a direction that Tom would not have been suitable for? Or was he an out-of-place, mush-mouthed, annoying gurgler who cared more about showing off his range and being brutal than writing vocal lines that actually fit the music (or bothering to enunciate)?
    • The decision to release Immortal with CJ's vocals. Was it a band trapped between a rock and a hard place who realistically didn't have a better option (given how much of a nightmare its creation was even before CJ got outed) trying their best to cut their losses and finish cleaning up the mess when they were in a better position to do so? Or was it the band taking the easy way out and letting a vile sexual predator leave his mark on them when they could and should have finished erasing him from history by delaying the album until they could get someone to redo the vocals? Adam De Micco's girlfriend confirmed on Instagram and Reddit that CJ was locked out of royalties due to his ejection and wouldn't see a cent from the album or the preorder merch sales, which has helped put both sides at ease, but there is still some lingering disagreement.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse: For deathcore in general, as they are among the very few modern deathcore acts who have had some success in winning over death metal fans and crossing over to that fanbase while still maintaining a strong following among deathcore fans. Their Determinator tendencies with how they have handled a lengthy history of bad luck and roadblocks as a band have also won them a lot of broader respect, as did their no-nonsense handling of CJ McCreery's ejection.
  • Fandom Rivalry: Lorna Shore's fans have something of a one-sided feud with Shadow of Intent's fans, mostly by decrying Shadow of Intent's post-Reclaimer material as a Lorna Shore ripoff due to its symphonic and blackened elements. Defied by the musicians themselves, as Ben Duerr and Adam De Micco have both said in no uncertain terms that the bands developed their sounds independently and just shared a pool of common influences, and that anyone who would decry Shadow of Intent as a Lorna Shore wannabe or clout-chaser doesn't know what they're talking about.
  • Growing the Beard: Maleficium and especially Flesh Coffin served as major sources of growth for the band. Adam also cited Immortal as this, as he stated that it was their attempt to clean up their songwriting and eliminate some bad habits (namely abrupt stylistic transitions and breakdowns for the sake of breakdowns), better reflect their influences, and rise above the rest of the deathcore pack.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: In the wake of his outing for Domestic Abuse and pervasive sexually predatory behavior, CJ's lyrics for "King ov Deception" (not to mention the fact that he wanted that as the title for Immortal) and "Hollow Sentence" read a lot more like acknowledgments of what he was doing behind the scenes before the band found out.
  • Memetic Mutation: This cat video set to "Life of Fear" quickly went viral.
  • Signature Song: "To the Hellfire", which achieved viral fame almost instantly due to its popularity in reaction videos and on TikTok, as well as its popularity as a vocal cover choice.
  • Tear Jerker: The title track of Pain Remains, as suggested by its title, and especially its video - a hauntingly effective representation of the Five Stages of Grief. Actually, the whole album fits to varying extents; as Will Ramos describes it on Apple Music, it's a concept album where a character becomes a sort of god through lucid dreaming, falls in love with a woman from his dream, then has to deal with her death. At the end he ultimately elects to burn down his house in his dream with himself inside, presumably to return to his real life.

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