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YMMV / Leaves' Eyes

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  • Awesome Music: So many examples. The angelic voices of our leading ladies help.
  • Broken Base: There are two groups.
    • The first group believes Krull forced Liv out due to a fit of pique regarding their divorce and banned her from seeing their son. He then publicly insinuated it was Liv's new boyfriend who had "manipulated" her into "abandoning" the group and the tour. Krull didn't do himself any favours by repeatedly being rude and dismissive in the comments of the initial announcement's post, even blocking some fans on Facebook and Youtube who expressed their concernsnote , and later made a post calling the upset fans "haters" and "bitches". Furthermore, they believe that the band should change its name ("Leaves' Eyes" = "Liv's Eyes").
      • It's interesting to note that Liv's father and sister as well as Raymond from Theatre of Tragedy commented on the Facebook post supporting Liv's version (although these comments were deleted by the band). They also say that Krull's revealing of Liv's mental health and the fact that she had been seeing a therapist was a despicable action.
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    • The second group thinks that it was Liv's and her (former) therapist's fault that things went down the way they did, and believe that the band and Liv had already agreed she would leave the group. They also think that Liv purposefully goaded her fans to attack the band, and point out that she has been fired from bands before (Theatre of Tragedy), and thus any issues must lie with her.
      • Members of the first group point out to the second group, however, that Liv and the other members of Theatre of Tragedy have since patched things up and are considering possibly working together in some capacity in the future.
    • There is also a broken base regarding some fan rumours that there was cheating involved, but nobody can agree on who. Some fans even believe that they were both cheating on each other.
  • Creator Couple: Liv and Krull formed the band around their marriage, though their 2016 divorce led to Liv's departure from the band.
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  • Face of the Band: Liv Kristine. Which leads to The Band Minus the Face for much of the audience.
  • Fanon Discontinuity: For a large majority of the fandom, everything post Liv's departure is this.
  • Replacement Scrappy: Elina for Liv. The controversy surrounding Liv's departure doesn't help.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: Elina v. Liv again. Interestingly a version in which fans aren't angry about the replacement itself (well, not only about that, anyway) so much as the fact that Liv claims she was wrongfully dismissed.
  • Tough Act to Follow: Elina Siirala is a talented singer and makes an effort to sound similar to Liv, but it's always going to be difficult to replace a beloved frontwoman thirteen years and six albums into the band's existence - especially considering the circumstance's of said frontwoman's departure.


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