History YMMV / LeavesEyes

* FaceOfTheBand: Liv Kristine. Which leads to TheBandMinusTheFace for much of the audience.

** The second group thinks that it was Liv's and her then therapist and current partner's fault that things went down the way they did, and believe the authenticity of the papers claiming that the band and Liv had already agreed she would leave the group. They also think that Liv purposefully goaded her fans and family to attack the band, and point out that she has been fired from Theatre of Tragedy under nearly identical circumstances (except she and Raymond had remained AmicableExes for years by that point), including pulling the same WoundedGazelleGambit afterwards; thus, they argue, any issues must lie with her.

*** Then again, it was Liv herself who first strayed from the official statement, and her family who escalated the situation by pointing at Liv and Alex's private life.
** The second group thinks that it was Liv's and her then therapist and current partner's fault that things went down the way they did, and believe the authenticity of the papers claiming that the band and Liv had already agreed she would leave the group. They also think that Liv purposefully goaded her fans to attack the band, and point out that she has been fired from Theatre of Tragedy under nearly identical circumstances (except she and Raymond had remained AmicableExes for years by that point), including pulling the same WoundedGazelleGambit afterwards; thus, they argue, any issues must lie with her.

** The second group thinks that it was Liv's and her (former) therapist's fault that things went down the way they did, and believe that the band and Liv had already agreed she would leave the group. They also think that Liv purposefully goaded her fans to attack the band, and point out that she has been fired from bands before (Theatre of Tragedy), and thus any issues must lie with her.
*** Members of the first group point out to the second group, however, that Liv and the other members of Theatre of Tragedy have since patched things up and are considering possibly working together in some capacity in the future.

* TheWoobie: Poor Liv. Her husband separated from her only months before she was kicked out of the band ([[AmbiguousSituation maybe]]). And this [[Music/TheatreOfTragedy isn't the first time the latter happened to her]].
** ItGetsWorse - she announced in 2018 that her new fiance had passed away following a series of heart attacks and a stroke.

** The first group believes Krull forced Liv out due to a fit of pique regarding their divorce and banned her from seeing their son, and attempted to commit libel by insinuating it was Liv's new boyfriend who had "manipulated" her into "abandoning" the group and the tour. Krull didn't do himself any favours by repeatedly being rude and dismissive in the comments of the initial announcement's post, even blocking some fans on Facebook and Youtube who expressed their concerns[[note]]the group lost 70,000 fans from their FB page after the announcement[[/note]], and later made a post calling the upset fans "haters" and "bitches". Furthermore, they believe that the band should change its name ("Leaves' Eyes" = "Liv's Eyes").

* CreatorCouple: Liv and Krull formed the band around their marriage, though their 2016 divorce led to Liv leaving the band.

** The first group believes Krull forced Liv out due to a fit of pique regarding their divorce and banned her from seeing their son, and attempted to commit libel by insinuating it was Liv's new boyfriend who had "manipulated" her into "abandoning" the group and the tour. Krull didn't do himself any favours by repeatedly being rude and dismissive in the comments of the initial announcement's post, even blocking some fans who expressed their concerns[[note]]the group lost 70,000 fans from their FB page after the announcement[[/note]]. This group also thinks that the band should change its name ("Leaves' Eyes" = "Liv's Eyes").
*** This group also points out that Liv's father and sister as well as Raymond from Theatre of Tragedy commented on the Facebook post supporting Liv's version. They also say that Krull's revealing of Liv's mental health and the fact that she had been seeing a therapist was a despicable action.

** There is also a broken base around allegations of cheating - did someone cheat? If so, who? [[TakeAThirdOption Some fans even believe that they were both cheating on each other.]]

** The first group believes Krull forced Liv out due to a fit of pique regarding their divorce and banned her from seeing their son, and attempted to commit libel by insinuating it was Liv's new boyfriend who had "manipulated" her into "abandoning" the group and the tour. Krull didn't do himself any favours by repeatedly being rude and dismissive in the comments of the initial announcement's post, even blocking some fans who expressed their concerns. This group also thinks that the band should change its name ("Leaves' Eyes" = "Liv's Eyes").

** The first group believes Krull forced Liv out due to a fit of pique regarding their divorce and banned her from seeing their son, and attempted to commit libel by insinuating it was Liv's new boyfriend who had "manipulated" her into "abandoning" the group and the tour. Krull didn't do himself any favours by repeatedly being rude and dismissive in the comments of the initial announcement's post, even blocking some fans who expressed their concerns. This group also thinks that the band should change its name ("Leaves' Eyes" = "Liv's Eyes".

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Elina v Liv again. Interestingly a version in which fans aren't angry about the replacement itself (well, not ''only'' about that, anyway) so much as the fact that Liv claims she was wrongfully dismissed.
* ToughActToFollow: Elina Siirala is a talented singer and makes an effort to sound similar to Liv, but it's always going to be difficult to replace a beloved frontwoman thirteen years and six albums into the band's existence.
* TheWoobie: Poor Liv. Her husband separated from her only months before she was kicked out of the band ([[AmbiguousSituation maybe]]). And this [[Music/TheatreOfTragedy isn't the first time the latter happened to her]].

* AwesomeMusic: So many examples. The angelic voices of our leading ladies help.

* ToughActToFollow: Elina is a wonderful singer, no doubt, but she just can't compare to the wonder that is Liv's voice.

* CreatorCouple: Liv and Krull...until 2016.

* AwesomeMusic: So many examples. The angelic voices of our leading ladies helps.

* ToughActToFollow: Elina is a wonderful singer, no doubt, but she just can't compare to the wonder that is Liv's voice.