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** Her calling Guido out on his bull, after he's spent the majority of the film trying to manipulate her.
--> "You, a sensitive fellow. So sad for his wife, crying to me about the bombs you dropped and the people you killed. You need to ''get'' something to be human? You never felt anything for anybody in your life. All you know is the sad words. You could blow up the world and all you'd feel is sorry for yourself!"
--> "You, a sensitive fellow. So sad for his wife, crying to me about the bombs you dropped and the people you killed. You need to ''get'' something to be human? You never felt anything for anybody in your life. All you know is the sad words. You could blow up the world and all you'd feel is sorry for yourself!"
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** Isabelle laughs at Roslyn saying that she can't use the marriage being loveless as grounds for divorce, joking that "if that were grounds for divorce, there would only be eleven marriages left in the United States". This was eight years before the No Fault Divorce bill was passed, and in the following decade it would become more socially acceptable to divorce simply because of romantic incompatibility. Of course, the movie is ahead of the game by validating Roslyn's reasons for divorcing, as well as her later speech about a married couple that are still together despite the husband being unfaithful.
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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct:
** Upon seeing the rushes, Creator/ClarkGable said that this was the only time he was ever allowed to act.
** This would have been the film to finally show Creator/MarilynMonroe for the talented actress she was, and she proves it.
** Upon seeing the rushes, Creator/ClarkGable said that this was the only time he was ever allowed to act.
** This would have been the film to finally show Creator/MarilynMonroe for the talented actress she was, and she proves it.
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** Upon seeing the rushes, Creator/ClarkGable said that this was the only time he was ever allowed to act.
** This would have been the film to finally show Creator/MarilynMonroe for the talented actress she was, and she proves it.
** Upon seeing the rushes, Creator/ClarkGable said that this was the only time he was ever allowed to act.
** This would have been the film to finally show Creator/MarilynMonroe for the talented actress she was, and she proves it.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Glenn Danzig, and, much later, Jerry Only.
** Doyle has a lot of fans, too.
** Doyle has a lot of fans, too.
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** Then again, flipped around some time after the Original Misfits reunion, as most of the group seem to have mellowed out with age, but Graves' political views draw the ire of most old school punks, who are largely left wing.
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: The scene of Roslyn playing paddleboard is widely remembered, and provides the page image. The way it's often described, one would think the entire film turns into a JiggleShow - when there are only two brief shots, and another {{Male Gaze}}y one of her ass from the perspective of two leches.
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: The scene of Roslyn playing paddleboard is widely remembered, and provides the page image. The way it's often described, one would think the entire film turns into a JiggleShow is lecherous - when there are only two brief shots, and another {{Male Gaze}}y one of her ass from the perspective of two leches.
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* AwardSnub: The film received no UsefulNotes/AcademyAward nominations.
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* AwardSnub: The film received no UsefulNotes/AcademyAward nominations. Partly this was a result of an attempt to get it edited in time for the deadline of awards consideration, hoping to get Creator/ClarkGable a posthumous nomination for Best Actor. Naturally, time has also come to regard Marilyn Monroe's work as worthy of a Best Actress nomination, and those of Eli Wallach and Montgomery Clift for Best Supporting Actor. The film's Box Office failure and well-documented nightmarish production may also have put the Academy off considering it.
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** This would have been the film to finally show Creator/MarilynMonroe for the talented actress she was, and she proves it.
** Upon seeing the rushes, Creator/ClarkGable said that this was the only time he was ever allowed to act.
** This would have been the film to finally show Creator/MarilynMonroe for the talented actress she was, and she proves it.
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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct:
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**Upon seeing Isabelle gets a spiel about how cowboys are the rushes, Creator/ClarkGable said worst types of people for timekeeping.
--> "I've never met so many men who didn't own a watch. Might have two wives but no watch."
** Isabelle encourages Roslyn to throw her wedding ring into the river to celebrate the divorce, joking thatthis was "there's more gold in that river than the only time he was ever allowed to act.
** This would have been the film to finally show Creator/MarilynMonroe for the talented actressClondyke". Roslyn asks if she was, threw hers in there too, and Isabelle laughs, revealing she proves it.lost it on her wedding night!
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--> "I've never met so many men who didn't own a watch. Might have two wives but no watch."
** Isabelle encourages Roslyn to throw her wedding ring into the river to celebrate the divorce, joking that
** This would have been the film to finally show Creator/MarilynMonroe for the talented actress
** Roslyn also has a line when dancing with Guido, "we're all dying", and the shot cuts to Gay soon after.
* JerkassWoobie: The 'jerkass' part only comes out in the second half of the film, where he's willing to wrangle a bunch of wild horses that will be killed for their meat, and is rude to Perce and Roslyn over it, but Gay also found his wife cheating on him with his cousin and it's implied his children were taken away from him to be with their mother. Part of his aforementioned behaviour comes from the fact that he's a middle-aged man who can't make sense of how quickly the world has changed, and how he's felt left behind by everyone in his life.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The film's nightmarish production is more remembered than the quality of the material itself. This even dogged it while it was still going on - as John Huston rather sneakily leaked a story to the press of Marilyn Monroe's problems being so out of control production was shutting down for two weeks. In actuality, it shut down because he was $50,000 in debt to the casinos and the whole production had run out of money.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The film's nightmarish production is more remembered than the quality of the material itself. This even dogged it while it was still going on - as John Huston rather sneakily leaked a story to the press of Marilyn Monroe's problems being so out of control production was shutting down for two weeks. In actuality, it shut down because he was $50,000 in debt to the casinos and the whole production had run out of money. Arthur Miller even based two plays on the making of this; ''After the Fall'', made right after Marilyn Monroe's death, and ''Finishing the Picture'', which was produced ''forty years'' after the film's release.
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* StoicWoobie: Roslyn has quite the sad backstory - a mother who was never really around, a husband who didn't treat her well, and multiple affairs with men who just used her. But she's actually incredibly stoic when she talks about these things, and she's considerably less angsty than you'd think of a character with that backstory.
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** Guido mentions how his wife never danced, simply because she had no grace. Roslyn suddenly gets very sad, wondering why Guido never tried to teach her, and thinking that the woman died never knowing what it was like to dance with her husband.
--> "If you loved her, you could have taught her anything."
--> "If you loved her, you could have taught her anything."
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** Upon seeing the rushes, Creator/ClarkGable said that this was the only time he was ever allowed to act.
** This would have been the film to finally show Creator/MarilynMonroe for the talented actress she was, and she proves it.
** Upon seeing the rushes, Creator/ClarkGable said that this was the only time he was ever allowed to act.
** This would have been the film to finally show Creator/MarilynMonroe for the talented actress she was, and she proves it.
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** There's something eerily prophetic about the very last scene of the film being just Marilyn Monroe and Clark Gable staring off into the stars together, having a philosophical chat. The latter would be dead before the film was even released, and she would follow him a year later.
** Roslyn gets a quickie divorce at the start, and struggles to find someone to love her without using her. While her end is somewhat happy, Marilyn Monroe's marriage to Arthur Miller collapsed during filming. Roslyn talks about being the other woman in an affair, and Arthur Miller in fact had one during production. And Marilyn Monroe herself likewise did so with Yves Montand, who was indeed married.
** Roslyn gets a quickie divorce at the start, and struggles to find someone to love her without using her. While her end is somewhat happy, Marilyn Monroe's marriage to Arthur Miller collapsed during filming. Roslyn talks about being the other woman in an affair, and Arthur Miller in fact had one during production. And Marilyn Monroe herself likewise did so with Yves Montand, who was indeed married.
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** There's something eerily prophetic about the very last scene of the film being just Marilyn Monroe and Clark Gable Creator/ClarkGable staring off into the stars together, having a philosophical chat. The latter would be dead before the film was even released, and she would follow him a year later.
** Roslyn gets a quickie divorce at the start, and struggles to find someone to love her without using her. While her end is somewhat happy, Marilyn Monroe's marriage to Arthur Miller collapsed during filming. Roslyn talks about being the other woman in an affair, and Arthur Miller in fact had one during production. And Marilyn Monroe herself likewise did so withYves Montand, who Creator/YvesMontand on the very aptly titled ''Let's Make Love'' (Montand was indeed married.also married, to Creator/SimoneSignoret).
** Roslyn gets a quickie divorce at the start, and struggles to find someone to love her without using her. While her end is somewhat happy, Marilyn Monroe's marriage to Arthur Miller collapsed during filming. Roslyn talks about being the other woman in an affair, and Arthur Miller in fact had one during production. And Marilyn Monroe herself likewise did so with
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* RelationshipWritingFumble: Although Perce tells Roslyn he loves her, their pairing is intended to be a platonic one, and he's the only male to ''not'' ever make advances in the film. The only issue is that Montgomery Clift and Marilyn Monroe have terrific chemistry, and the age difference between them is considerably less than the other two (he was only four years older than her). As Perce seems to grow the most through his time with Roslyn, and treat her with the most respect, they seem better matched.
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* RelationshipWritingFumble: PlatonicWritingRomanticReading: Although Perce tells Roslyn he loves her, their pairing is intended to be a platonic one, and he's the only male to ''not'' ever make advances in the film. The only issue is that Montgomery Clift and Marilyn Monroe have terrific chemistry, and the age difference between them is considerably less than the other two (he was only four years older than her). As Perce seems to grow the most through his time with Roslyn, and treat her with the most respect, they seem better matched.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments:
** Roslyn declares she'll buy all the horses the men have captured, to save them from being killed. And you know she would have gone through with it, had Gay not refused.
** Roslyn's ReasonYouSuckSpeech, screaming at the men for their actions. And it's a meta one for Marilyn Monroe, who nailed the drama of the scene.
--> "All of you, liars! You're only happy when you can see something die! Why don't you kill yourself to be happy? You and your God's country! Freedom! I pity you! You're three dear, sweet, dead men!"
** Roslyn declares she'll buy all the horses the men have captured, to save them from being killed. And you know she would have gone through with it, had Gay not refused.
** Roslyn's ReasonYouSuckSpeech, screaming at the men for their actions. And it's a meta one for Marilyn Monroe, who nailed the drama of the scene.
--> "All of you, liars! You're only happy when you can see something die! Why don't you kill yourself to be happy? You and your God's country! Freedom! I pity you! You're three dear, sweet, dead men!"
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** Roslyn talking about the illusion of happy marriage, highlighting just how she's been used in the past.
--> "One time the wife was in the hospital, to have the baby. And the husband calling me up. I mean, he was calling ''me''. They're still supposed to be happily married."
--> "One time the wife was in the hospital, to have the baby. And the husband calling me up. I mean, he was calling ''me''. They're still supposed to be happily married."
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Guido is often imagined more favorably, due to being played by the attractive and charismatic Eli Wallach. While he appears to have a sympathetic backstory, his TraumaCongaLine is only ever mentioned whenever he wants to score sympathy from Roslyn. Hell, he tries to use her being traumatized by them capturing the horses as a way to get with her - minutes after she and Gay appear to be finished!
** Roslyn gets a quickie divorce at the start, and struggles to find someone to love her without using her. While her end is somewhat happy, Marilyn Monroe's marriage to Arthur Miller collapsed during filming. Roslyn talks about being the other woman in an affair, and Arthur Miller in fact had one during production. And Marilyn Monroe herself likewise did so with Yves Montand, who was indeed married.
* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments:
** Perce tells Roslyn that he loves her. It's obvious he means platonically, and he doesn't want to use her like Guido. Roslyn is touched that he feels so strongly about her, even though they only met earlier.
** [[spoiler: Gay letting the horses go, and announcing that he's done with ever hunting them again. He's clearly changed for the better, and his and Roslyn's relationship seems hopeful]].
** Perce tells Roslyn that he loves her. It's obvious he means platonically, and he doesn't want to use her like Guido. Roslyn is touched that he feels so strongly about her, even though they only met earlier.
** [[spoiler: Gay letting the horses go, and announcing that he's done with ever hunting them again. He's clearly changed for the better, and his and Roslyn's relationship seems hopeful]].
* RelationshipWritingFumble: Although Perce tells Roslyn he loves her, their pairing is intended to be a platonic one, and he's the only male to ''not'' ever make advances in the film. The only issue is that Montgomery Clift and Marilyn Monroe have terrific chemistry, and the age difference between them is considerably less than the other two (he was only four years older than her). As Perce seems to grow the most through his time with Roslyn, and treat her with the most respect, they seem better matched.
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* ValuesDissonance: The age difference between Gay and Roslyn is especially off-putting to modern viewers, while not seen as unusual at the time. Gay is meant to be in his forties, and Roslyn is 30, so it's meant to be a gap of maybe fifteen years. But Clark Gable was 59 and looked it.
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* ValuesDissonance: TearDryer:
** Roslyn has reached a DespairEventHorizon, reduced to literally screaming into the desert at the idea that innocent wild horses will be slaughtered. Guido likewise reveals himself as a manipulator. [[spoiler: Then Perce jumps into the truck, drives off and begin to free the horses]].
** [[spoiler: Gay has darn near killed himself to recapture the stallion, and even Roslyn wanted the animal caught if only so Gay didn't hurt himself anymore. Then he takes out a knife and cuts the rope, letting the horse go free; announcing he's done with it for good]].
* TearJerker:
** Perce nearly killing himself in the rodeo, and Roslyn being left in hysterics over it. The lack of sympathy from the other two doesn't help.
** Perce is stunned that Roslyn cares that much about someone she barely knows, and that anyone would cry for him.
** Roslyn discovering what's really to happen to the horses when they're captured. Gay tries to insist it's not that bad, and that he's only doing whatever he can to stay free; stating that that's why she likes him. Her response?
--> "I liked you because you were ''kind''."
* ValuesDissonance:
** The age difference between Gay and Roslyn is especially off-putting to modern viewers, while not seen as unusual at the time. Gay is meant to be in his forties, and Roslyn is 30, so it's meant to be a gap of maybe fifteen years. But Clark Gable was 59 and looked it.
** A dark dramatic moment is Guido driving everyone home from the bar, and Roslyn trying to get him to focus on doing so safely. Guido is clearly drunk, and was seen having some drinks at the bar, and just happens to be slightly less drunk than the other two (as in, he's conscious). With greater awareness of the severity of drunk driving, it looks odd that Roslyn doesn't just drive them herself, since she doesn't appear to have drunk much herself.
** Roslyn has reached a DespairEventHorizon, reduced to literally screaming into the desert at the idea that innocent wild horses will be slaughtered. Guido likewise reveals himself as a manipulator. [[spoiler: Then Perce jumps into the truck, drives off and begin to free the horses]].
** [[spoiler: Gay has darn near killed himself to recapture the stallion, and even Roslyn wanted the animal caught if only so Gay didn't hurt himself anymore. Then he takes out a knife and cuts the rope, letting the horse go free; announcing he's done with it for good]].
* TearJerker:
** Perce nearly killing himself in the rodeo, and Roslyn being left in hysterics over it. The lack of sympathy from the other two doesn't help.
** Perce is stunned that Roslyn cares that much about someone she barely knows, and that anyone would cry for him.
** Roslyn discovering what's really to happen to the horses when they're captured. Gay tries to insist it's not that bad, and that he's only doing whatever he can to stay free; stating that that's why she likes him. Her response?
--> "I liked you because you were ''kind''."
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** The age difference between Gay and Roslyn is especially off-putting to modern viewers, while not seen as unusual at the time. Gay is meant to be in his forties, and Roslyn is 30, so it's meant to be a gap of maybe fifteen years. But Clark Gable was 59 and looked it.
** A dark dramatic moment is Guido driving everyone home from the bar, and Roslyn trying to get him to focus on doing so safely. Guido is clearly drunk, and was seen having some drinks at the bar, and just happens to be slightly less drunk than the other two (as in, he's conscious). With greater awareness of the severity of drunk driving, it looks odd that Roslyn doesn't just drive them herself, since she doesn't appear to have drunk much herself.
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* DesignatedVillain: Guido. He's not a good person, but the film makes him out to be worse than Gay.
* EsotericHappyEnding: So Roslyn drives off in Gay's arms after he let all the horses go... and you wonder if this was the ending Creator/ArthurMiller intended.
* EsotericHappyEnding: So Roslyn drives off in Gay's arms after he let all the horses go... and you wonder if this was the ending Creator/ArthurMiller intended.
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* DesignatedVillain: Guido. He's not a good person, but the film makes him out to be worse than Gay.
* EsotericHappyEnding: SoBestKnownForTheFanservice: The scene of Roslyn drives off in Gay's arms after he let all playing paddleboard is widely remembered, and provides the horses go... page image. The way it's often described, one would think the entire film turns into a JiggleShow - when there are only two brief shots, and you wonder if this was another {{Male Gaze}}y one of her ass from the ending Creator/ArthurMiller intended.perspective of two leches.
* EsotericHappyEnding: So
* HarsherInHindsight:
** There's something eerily prophetic about the very last scene of the film being just Marilyn Monroe and Clark Gable staring off into the stars together, having a philosophical chat. The latter would be dead before the film was even released, and she would follow him a year later.
** Perce is a sad man trying to ignore his obvious problems in order to get any kind of work he can. His characterization parallels Montgomery Clift's so much, it's unsettling; after a car accident that affected his PrettyBoy looks, he took to substance abuse to cope with the pain. The next year, his reputation was further damaged by a lawsuit from Universal that his behaviour caused a film to go over budget (when he was actually left with cataracts thanks to an on-set accident) and he didn't make another film for four years. He'd die himself in 1966.
** There's something eerily prophetic about the very last scene of the film being just Marilyn Monroe and Clark Gable staring off into the stars together, having a philosophical chat. The latter would be dead before the film was even released, and she would follow him a year later.
** Perce is a sad man trying to ignore his obvious problems in order to get any kind of work he can. His characterization parallels Montgomery Clift's so much, it's unsettling; after a car accident that affected his PrettyBoy looks, he took to substance abuse to cope with the pain. The next year, his reputation was further damaged by a lawsuit from Universal that his behaviour caused a film to go over budget (when he was actually left with cataracts thanks to an on-set accident) and he didn't make another film for four years. He'd die himself in 1966.
* OvershadowedByControversy: The film's nightmarish production is more remembered than the quality of the material itself. This even dogged it while it was still going on - as John Huston rather sneakily leaked a story to the press of Marilyn Monroe's problems being so out of control production was shutting down for two weeks. In actuality, it shut down because he was $50,000 in debt to the casinos and the whole production had run out of money.
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* ValuesDissonance: The age difference between Gay and Roslyn is especially off-putting to modern viewers, while not seen as unusual at the time. Gay is meant to be in his forties, and Roslyn is 30, so it's meant to be a gap of maybe fifteen years. But Clark Gable was 59 and looked it.
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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct:
** Upon seeing the rushes, Creator/ClarkGable said that this was the only time he was ever allowed to act.
** This would have been the film to finally show Creator/MarilynMonroe for the talented actress she was, and she proves it.
** Upon seeing the rushes, Creator/ClarkGable said that this was the only time he was ever allowed to act.
** This would have been the film to finally show Creator/MarilynMonroe for the talented actress she was, and she proves it.
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** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuzA4U1njO8 Last Caress]]": [[VillainProtagonist The Narrator]] gleefully sings about [[WouldHurtAChild murdering a baby]] and not caring about the consequences as long [[ForTheEvulz as the baby dies]]. He proceeds to unapologetically boast to the person he's speaking to about [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil raping their mother]], then proudly clarifies that the baby he killed was the person's child. The Narrator proves himself to be a remorseless sociopath, even in the face of death.
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc3hLKwHSqM Jack the Ripper]]": The [[VillainProtagonist narrator of the song]], indicated to be the [[UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper titular serial killer]] relishing blood in his hands slipping through his fingers "like lives I take", viciously taunts and mocks his victims all throughout the song, hounding with the repeated chorus of "where you gonna go / whatcha gonna do?" The song ends as the narrator concludes with his slaughter, gleefully summing up how he hasn't any remorse, thanking the victim for "everything they did" to fulfill his desire.
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuzA4U1njO8 Last Caress]]": [[VillainProtagonist The Narrator]] gleefully sings about [[WouldHurtAChild murdering a baby]] and not caring about the consequences as long [[ForTheEvulz as the baby dies]]. He proceeds to unapologetically boast to the person he's speaking to about [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil raping their mother]], then proudly clarifies that the baby he killed was the person's child. The Narrator proves himself to be a remorseless sociopath, even in the face of death.
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc3hLKwHSqM Jack the Ripper]]": The [[VillainProtagonist narrator of the song]], indicated to be the [[UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper titular serial killer]] relishing blood in his hands slipping through his fingers "like lives I take", viciously taunts and mocks his victims all throughout the song, hounding with the repeated chorus of "where you gonna go / whatcha gonna do?" The song ends as the narrator concludes with his slaughter, gleefully summing up how he hasn't any remorse, thanking the victim for "everything they did" to fulfill his desire.
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* CompleteMonster:
**CompleteMonster: "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuzA4U1njO8 Last Caress]]": [[VillainProtagonist The Narrator]] gleefully sings about [[WouldHurtAChild murdering a baby]] and not caring about the consequences as long [[ForTheEvulz as the baby dies]]. He proceeds to unapologetically boast to the person he's speaking to about [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil raping their mother]], then proudly clarifies that the baby he killed was the person's child. The Narrator proves himself to be a remorseless sociopath, even in the face of death.
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc3hLKwHSqM Jack the Ripper]]": The [[VillainProtagonist narrator of the song]], indicated to be the [[UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper titular serial killer]] relishing blood in his hands slipping through his fingers "like lives I take", viciously taunts and mocks his victims all throughout the song, hounding with the repeated chorus of "where you gonna go / whatcha gonna do?" The song ends as the narrator concludes with his slaughter, gleefully summing up how he hasn't any remorse, thanking the victim for "everything they did" to fulfill his desire.
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* DownerEnding: Their first run ended with their new drummer getting so shitfaced he couldn't finish half the set, Glenn so fed up he broke up the band on stage then and there, and then a several year legal battle when he rerecorded Jerry and Doyle's parts for a compilation album rather than actually pay them royalties.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks Some people's response to the Graves and Only fronted Misfits.Misfits.
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments:
** Part 7 features a side-story where Goku and Vegeta are inspecting the original characters' home city of Canton, Ohio and Vegeta, angry in his own way at the events of [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror 9/11]] (which had just happened earlier '''that day'''), wants to get drunk to the point of stupidness. Goku reluctantly agrees to let him have his moping, and they find a bar in which Nina happens to also be there also depressed about the day's events and gets to witness Goku and Vegeta getting into a Vodka-drunking contest, in which Goku wins by a hair [although it's implied by both Goku and Vegeta that Goku simply '''cannot''' get drunk for some reason, while Vegeta can]. {{Hilarity Ensues}}, including a part where Goku and Nina sneak into Goku and Vegeta's rented out house only to find a agitated Piccolo waiting for them in the same way an angry parent waits for their child to get home from being late. Again some {{hilarity ensues}}.
** Part 8: Piccolo and #17 are now taking their turns exploring the city of Canton, when #17, being the fun lover he is, wants to try to get Piccolo, the stoic, serious guy he is, to lighten up and have a bit of fun. #17 takes them to a motor lot and buys a pair of motorcycles, in which he goads Piccolo into riding on. This leads to both #17 and Piccolo ''racing each other down the streets of Canton'', with #17 constantly heckling Piccolo to enjoy fun and not to feign being a sourpuss. Piccolo then decides to challenge #17 in a way by having them ki-levitate themselves and their motorcycles onto the roof of a nearby building [a tall one], and have them fly through the air on just a single forward thrust of ki alone and see where they end up. #17 accepts, and the two end up reaching an abandoned stadium where Goku, Vegeta and Mr. Buu are trying to train Alex, Vernon and Jason. Piccolo and #17 land and almost run down Alex, Jason and Vernon by accident before taking back to the skies via ki, still on their motorcycles. [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity ensued]].
** In Part 9, Radditz ends up with a part-time job at a [=McDonalds=] in the southern township of Canton. Some of the characters probably held in some laughter at seeing a [=McDonalds=] cap in his long, lufty hair at the end of the part, and laughs are played when he takes orders and one specific order made by the character is blindly guessed [correctly] to be Goku's, to his feigned dismay.
** The story loves to go out of the usual [[StatusQuoIsGod Status Quo]] for Dragonball-based stories and make some of the Dragonball characters face some hilarious real-life situations in general. The author was very fond of the driver's test filler episode for one, and has read other stories about DB characters doing more mundane things in life like drinking and playing sports, and likes mixing it up with these kinds of elements.
* ItWasHisSled: It's recommended you know at least ''Manga/{{Dragonball}}'' pretty well before reading this.
* NightmareFuel: Some of the explanation of {{Hell}} in the prologue as the mysterious daemonlord is introduced. Flesh eating plants that bleed out of their roots anyone?
** Another variant is a small bit where Clint has a small daydream/vision in the middle of a training session in Part 12, where he sees Alex, disfigured and forcibly transformed into a different entity, thinking he is possessed by [[VideoGame/EarthBound Giygas]], whom Clint learned from Paula might potentially some day make a return from death. This triggers a semi-transformation to Super Saiya-jin 3 which he only holds onto for a split second.
** In the same vein, Part 12 also has Goku explain the origins of his Super Saiya-jin 3 transformation: The Saiya-jin in question must apparently induce a form of nightmarish visions on themselves. Goku claims in his visions he saw Vegeta, Nappa and Radditz become Super Saiya-jin 2s and start murdering various characters, good guys and villains alike, even describing some of the more horrific ends the villains meet, and then of his own horrifying killing of them, fused into one being when he first becomes Super Saiya-jin 3 in the vision. Also, the strange and unknown voice whispering to Vegeta, Nappa and Radditz in his vision "OBLITERATE, SPREAD, PERSPIRE" over and over is just plain unnerving to Goku, who somehow could also hear it despite it being directed at the other three Saiya-jin.
!! Tropes for the Fanfic Fanfic/TheMisfits
* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments:
** Part 7 features a side-story where Goku and Vegeta are inspecting the original characters' home city of Canton, Ohio and Vegeta, angry in his own way at the events of [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror 9/11]] (which had just happened earlier '''that day'''), wants to get drunk to the point of stupidness. Goku reluctantly agrees to let him have his moping, and they find a bar in which Nina happens to also be there also depressed about the day's events and gets to witness Goku and Vegeta getting into a Vodka-drunking contest, in which Goku wins by a hair [although it's implied by both Goku and Vegeta that Goku simply '''cannot''' get drunk for some reason, while Vegeta can]. {{Hilarity Ensues}}, including a part where Goku and Nina sneak into Goku and Vegeta's rented out house only to find a agitated Piccolo waiting for them in the same way an angry parent waits for their child to get home from being late. Again some {{hilarity ensues}}.
** Part 8: Piccolo and #17 are now taking their turns exploring the city of Canton, when #17, being the fun lover he is, wants to try to get Piccolo, the stoic, serious guy he is, to lighten up and have a bit of fun. #17 takes them to a motor lot and buys a pair of motorcycles, in which he goads Piccolo into riding on. This leads to both #17 and Piccolo ''racing each other down the streets of Canton'', with #17 constantly heckling Piccolo to enjoy fun and not to feign being a sourpuss. Piccolo then decides to challenge #17 in a way by having them ki-levitate themselves and their motorcycles onto the roof of a nearby building [a tall one], and have them fly through the air on just a single forward thrust of ki alone and see where they end up. #17 accepts, and the two end up reaching an abandoned stadium where Goku, Vegeta and Mr. Buu are trying to train Alex, Vernon and Jason. Piccolo and #17 land and almost run down Alex, Jason and Vernon by accident before taking back to the skies via ki, still on their motorcycles. [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity ensued]].
** In Part 9, Radditz ends up with a part-time job at a [=McDonalds=] in the southern township of Canton. Some of the characters probably held in some laughter at seeing a [=McDonalds=] cap in his long, lufty hair at the end of the part, and laughs are played when he takes orders and one specific order made by the character is blindly guessed [correctly] to be Goku's, to his feigned dismay.
** The story loves to go out of the usual [[StatusQuoIsGod Status Quo]] for Dragonball-based stories and make some of the Dragonball characters face some hilarious real-life situations in general. The author was very fond of the driver's test filler episode for one, and has read other stories about DB characters doing more mundane things in life like drinking and playing sports, and likes mixing it up with these kinds of elements.
* ItWasHisSled: It's recommended you know at least ''Manga/{{Dragonball}}'' pretty well before reading this.
* NightmareFuel: Some of the explanation of {{Hell}} in the prologue as the mysterious daemonlord is introduced. Flesh eating plants that bleed out of their roots anyone?
** Another variant is a small bit where Clint has a small daydream/vision in the middle of a training session in Part 12, where he sees Alex, disfigured and forcibly transformed into a different entity, thinking he is possessed by [[VideoGame/EarthBound Giygas]], whom Clint learned from Paula might potentially some day make a return from death. This triggers a semi-transformation to Super Saiya-jin 3 which he only holds onto for a split second.
** In the same vein, Part 12 also has Goku explain the origins of his Super Saiya-jin 3 transformation: The Saiya-jin in question must apparently induce a form of nightmarish visions on themselves. Goku claims in his visions he saw Vegeta, Nappa and Radditz become Super Saiya-jin 2s and start murdering various characters, good guys and villains alike, even describing some of the more horrific ends the villains meet, and then of his own horrifying killing of them, fused into one being when he first becomes Super Saiya-jin 3 in the vision. Also, the strange and unknown voice whispering to Vegeta, Nappa and Radditz in his vision "OBLITERATE, SPREAD, PERSPIRE" over and over is just plain unnerving to Goku, who somehow could also hear it despite it being directed at the other three Saiya-jin.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks Some people's response to the Graves and Only fronted Misfits.
!! Tropes for the Fanfic Fanfic/TheMisfits
* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments:
** Part 7 features a side-story where Goku and Vegeta are inspecting the original characters' home city of Canton, Ohio and Vegeta, angry in his own way at the events of [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror 9/11]] (which had just happened earlier '''that day'''), wants to get drunk to the point of stupidness. Goku reluctantly agrees to let him have his moping, and they find a bar in which Nina happens to also be there also depressed about the day's events and gets to witness Goku and Vegeta getting into a Vodka-drunking contest, in which Goku wins by a hair [although it's implied by both Goku and Vegeta that Goku simply '''cannot''' get drunk for some reason, while Vegeta can]. {{Hilarity Ensues}}, including a part where Goku and Nina sneak into Goku and Vegeta's rented out house only to find a agitated Piccolo waiting for them in the same way an angry parent waits for their child to get home from being late. Again some {{hilarity ensues}}.
** Part 8: Piccolo and #17 are now taking their turns exploring the city of Canton, when #17, being the fun lover he is, wants to try to get Piccolo, the stoic, serious guy he is, to lighten up and have a bit of fun. #17 takes them to a motor lot and buys a pair of motorcycles, in which he goads Piccolo into riding on. This leads to both #17 and Piccolo ''racing each other down the streets of Canton'', with #17 constantly heckling Piccolo to enjoy fun and not to feign being a sourpuss. Piccolo then decides to challenge #17 in a way by having them ki-levitate themselves and their motorcycles onto the roof of a nearby building [a tall one], and have them fly through the air on just a single forward thrust of ki alone and see where they end up. #17 accepts, and the two end up reaching an abandoned stadium where Goku, Vegeta and Mr. Buu are trying to train Alex, Vernon and Jason. Piccolo and #17 land and almost run down Alex, Jason and Vernon by accident before taking back to the skies via ki, still on their motorcycles. [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity ensued]].
** In Part 9, Radditz ends up with a part-time job at a [=McDonalds=] in the southern township of Canton. Some of the characters probably held in some laughter at seeing a [=McDonalds=] cap in his long, lufty hair at the end of the part, and laughs are played when he takes orders and one specific order made by the character is blindly guessed [correctly] to be Goku's, to his feigned dismay.
** The story loves to go out of the usual [[StatusQuoIsGod Status Quo]] for Dragonball-based stories and make some of the Dragonball characters face some hilarious real-life situations in general. The author was very fond of the driver's test filler episode for one, and has read other stories about DB characters doing more mundane things in life like drinking and playing sports, and likes mixing it up with these kinds of elements.
* ItWasHisSled: It's recommended you know at least ''Manga/{{Dragonball}}'' pretty well before reading this.
* NightmareFuel: Some of the explanation of {{Hell}} in the prologue as the mysterious daemonlord is introduced. Flesh eating plants that bleed out of their roots anyone?
** Another variant is a small bit where Clint has a small daydream/vision in the middle of a training session in Part 12, where he sees Alex, disfigured and forcibly transformed into a different entity, thinking he is possessed by [[VideoGame/EarthBound Giygas]], whom Clint learned from Paula might potentially some day make a return from death. This triggers a semi-transformation to Super Saiya-jin 3 which he only holds onto for a split second.
** In the same vein, Part 12 also has Goku explain the origins of his Super Saiya-jin 3 transformation: The Saiya-jin in question must apparently induce a form of nightmarish visions on themselves. Goku claims in his visions he saw Vegeta, Nappa and Radditz become Super Saiya-jin 2s and start murdering various characters, good guys and villains alike, even describing some of the more horrific ends the villains meet, and then of his own horrifying killing of them, fused into one being when he first becomes Super Saiya-jin 3 in the vision. Also, the strange and unknown voice whispering to Vegeta, Nappa and Radditz in his vision "OBLITERATE, SPREAD, PERSPIRE" over and over is just plain unnerving to Goku, who somehow could also hear it despite it being directed at the other three Saiya-jin.Misfits.
!! Tropes for the Fanfic Fanfic/TheMisfits
* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments:
** Part 7 features a side-story where Goku and Vegeta are inspecting the original characters' home city of Canton, Ohio and Vegeta, angry in his own way at the events of [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror 9/11]] (which had just happened earlier '''that day'''), wants to get drunk to the point of stupidness. Goku reluctantly agrees to let him have his moping, and they find a bar in which Nina happens to also be there also depressed about the day's events and gets to witness Goku and Vegeta getting into a Vodka-drunking contest, in which Goku wins by a hair [although it's implied by both Goku and Vegeta that Goku simply '''cannot''' get drunk for some reason, while Vegeta can]. {{Hilarity Ensues}}, including a part where Goku and Nina sneak into Goku and Vegeta's rented out house only to find a agitated Piccolo waiting for them in the same way an angry parent waits for their child to get home from being late. Again some {{hilarity ensues}}.
** Part 8: Piccolo and #17 are now taking their turns exploring the city of Canton, when #17, being the fun lover he is, wants to try to get Piccolo, the stoic, serious guy he is, to lighten up and have a bit of fun. #17 takes them to a motor lot and buys a pair of motorcycles, in which he goads Piccolo into riding on. This leads to both #17 and Piccolo ''racing each other down the streets of Canton'', with #17 constantly heckling Piccolo to enjoy fun and not to feign being a sourpuss. Piccolo then decides to challenge #17 in a way by having them ki-levitate themselves and their motorcycles onto the roof of a nearby building [a tall one], and have them fly through the air on just a single forward thrust of ki alone and see where they end up. #17 accepts, and the two end up reaching an abandoned stadium where Goku, Vegeta and Mr. Buu are trying to train Alex, Vernon and Jason. Piccolo and #17 land and almost run down Alex, Jason and Vernon by accident before taking back to the skies via ki, still on their motorcycles. [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity ensued]].
** In Part 9, Radditz ends up with a part-time job at a [=McDonalds=] in the southern township of Canton. Some of the characters probably held in some laughter at seeing a [=McDonalds=] cap in his long, lufty hair at the end of the part, and laughs are played when he takes orders and one specific order made by the character is blindly guessed [correctly] to be Goku's, to his feigned dismay.
** The story loves to go out of the usual [[StatusQuoIsGod Status Quo]] for Dragonball-based stories and make some of the Dragonball characters face some hilarious real-life situations in general. The author was very fond of the driver's test filler episode for one, and has read other stories about DB characters doing more mundane things in life like drinking and playing sports, and likes mixing it up with these kinds of elements.
* ItWasHisSled: It's recommended you know at least ''Manga/{{Dragonball}}'' pretty well before reading this.
* NightmareFuel: Some of the explanation of {{Hell}} in the prologue as the mysterious daemonlord is introduced. Flesh eating plants that bleed out of their roots anyone?
** Another variant is a small bit where Clint has a small daydream/vision in the middle of a training session in Part 12, where he sees Alex, disfigured and forcibly transformed into a different entity, thinking he is possessed by [[VideoGame/EarthBound Giygas]], whom Clint learned from Paula might potentially some day make a return from death. This triggers a semi-transformation to Super Saiya-jin 3 which he only holds onto for a split second.
** In the same vein, Part 12 also has Goku explain the origins of his Super Saiya-jin 3 transformation: The Saiya-jin in question must apparently induce a form of nightmarish visions on themselves. Goku claims in his visions he saw Vegeta, Nappa and Radditz become Super Saiya-jin 2s and start murdering various characters, good guys and villains alike, even describing some of the more horrific ends the villains meet, and then of his own horrifying killing of them, fused into one being when he first becomes Super Saiya-jin 3 in the vision. Also, the strange and unknown voice whispering to Vegeta, Nappa and Radditz in his vision "OBLITERATE, SPREAD, PERSPIRE" over and over is just plain unnerving to Goku, who somehow could also hear it despite it being directed at the other three Saiya-jin.
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** Part 7 features a side-story where Goku and Vegeta are inspecting the original characters' home city of Canton, Ohio and Vegeta, angry in his own way at the events of [[TheWarOnTerror 9/11]] (which had just happened earlier '''that day'''), wants to get drunk to the point of stupidness. Goku reluctantly agrees to let him have his moping, and they find a bar in which Nina happens to also be there also depressed about the day's events and gets to witness Goku and Vegeta getting into a Vodka-drunking contest, in which Goku wins by a hair [although it's implied by both Goku and Vegeta that Goku simply '''cannot''' get drunk for some reason, while Vegeta can]. {{Hilarity Ensues}}, including a part where Goku and Nina sneak into Goku and Vegeta's rented out house only to find a agitated Piccolo waiting for them in the same way an angry parent waits for their child to get home from being late. Again some {{hilarity ensues}}.
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** Part 7 features a side-story where Goku and Vegeta are inspecting the original characters' home city of Canton, Ohio and Vegeta, angry in his own way at the events of [[TheWarOnTerror [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror 9/11]] (which had just happened earlier '''that day'''), wants to get drunk to the point of stupidness. Goku reluctantly agrees to let him have his moping, and they find a bar in which Nina happens to also be there also depressed about the day's events and gets to witness Goku and Vegeta getting into a Vodka-drunking contest, in which Goku wins by a hair [although it's implied by both Goku and Vegeta that Goku simply '''cannot''' get drunk for some reason, while Vegeta can]. {{Hilarity Ensues}}, including a part where Goku and Nina sneak into Goku and Vegeta's rented out house only to find a agitated Piccolo waiting for them in the same way an angry parent waits for their child to get home from being late. Again some {{hilarity ensues}}.
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* MemeticHair:. The "Devilock", invented and worn by several members.
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* CompleteMonster: In "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc3hLKwHSqM Jack the Ripper]]": The [[VillainProtagonist narrator of the song]], indicated to be the [[UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper titular serial killer]] relishing blood in his hands slipping through his fingers "like lives I take", viciously taunts and mocks his victims all throughout the song, hounding with the repeated chorus of "where you gonna go / whatcha gonna do?" The song ends as the narrator concludes with his slaughter, gleefully summing up how he hasn't any remorse, thanking the victim for "everything they did" to fulfill his desire.
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* CompleteMonster: In CompleteMonster:
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuzA4U1njO8 Last Caress]]": [[VillainProtagonist The Narrator]] gleefully sings about [[WouldHurtAChild murdering a baby]] and not caring about the consequences as long [[ForTheEvulz as the baby dies]]. He proceeds to unapologetically boast to the person he's speaking to about [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil raping their mother]], then proudly clarifies that the baby he killed was the person's child. The Narrator proves himself to be a remorseless sociopath, even in the face of death.
**"[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc3hLKwHSqM Jack the Ripper]]": The [[VillainProtagonist narrator of the song]], indicated to be the [[UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper titular serial killer]] relishing blood in his hands slipping through his fingers "like lives I take", viciously taunts and mocks his victims all throughout the song, hounding with the repeated chorus of "where you gonna go / whatcha gonna do?" The song ends as the narrator concludes with his slaughter, gleefully summing up how he hasn't any remorse, thanking the victim for "everything they did" to fulfill his desire.
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuzA4U1njO8 Last Caress]]": [[VillainProtagonist The Narrator]] gleefully sings about [[WouldHurtAChild murdering a baby]] and not caring about the consequences as long [[ForTheEvulz as the baby dies]]. He proceeds to unapologetically boast to the person he's speaking to about [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil raping their mother]], then proudly clarifies that the baby he killed was the person's child. The Narrator proves himself to be a remorseless sociopath, even in the face of death.
**"[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc3hLKwHSqM Jack the Ripper]]": The [[VillainProtagonist narrator of the song]], indicated to be the [[UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper titular serial killer]] relishing blood in his hands slipping through his fingers "like lives I take", viciously taunts and mocks his victims all throughout the song, hounding with the repeated chorus of "where you gonna go / whatcha gonna do?" The song ends as the narrator concludes with his slaughter, gleefully summing up how he hasn't any remorse, thanking the victim for "everything they did" to fulfill his desire.
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* CompleteMonster: In "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc3hLKwHSqM Jack the Ripper]]": The [[VillainProtagonist narrator of the song]], indicated to be the [[UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper titular serial killer]] relishing blood in his hands slipping through his fingers "like lives I take", viciously taunts and mocks his victims all throughout the song, hounding with the repeated chorus of "where you gonna go / whatcha gonna do?" The song ends as the narrator concludes with his slaughter, gleefully summing up how he hasn't any remorse, thanking the victim for "everything they did" to fulfill his desire.
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* DownerEnding: Their first run ended with their new drummer getting so shitfaced he couldn't finish half the set, Glenn so fed up he broke up the band on stage then and there, and then a several year legal battle when he rerecorded Jerry and Doyle's parts for a compilation album rather than actually pay them royalties.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Part 7 features a side-story where Goku and Vegeta are inspecting the original characters' home city of Canton, Ohio and Vegeta, angry in his own way at the events of [[TheWarOnTerror 9/11]] (which had just happened earlier '''that day'''), wants to get drunk to the point of stupidness. Goku reluctantly agrees to let him have his moping, and they find a bar in which Nina happens to also be there also depressed about the day's events and gets to witness Goku and Vegeta getting into a Vodka-drunking contest, in which Goku wins by a hair [although it's implied by both Goku and Vegeta that Goku simply '''cannot''' get drunk for some reason, while Vegeta can]. {{Hilarity Ensues}}, including a part where Goku and Nina sneak into Goku and Vegeta's rented out house only to find a agitated Piccolo waiting for them in the same way an angry parent waits for their child to get home from being late. Again some {{hilarity ensues}}.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: SugarWiki/FunnyMoments:
** Part 7 features a side-story where Goku and Vegeta are inspecting the original characters' home city of Canton, Ohio and Vegeta, angry in his own way at the events of [[TheWarOnTerror 9/11]] (which had just happened earlier '''that day'''), wants to get drunk to the point of stupidness. Goku reluctantly agrees to let him have his moping, and they find a bar in which Nina happens to also be there also depressed about the day's events and gets to witness Goku and Vegeta getting into a Vodka-drunking contest, in which Goku wins by a hair [although it's implied by both Goku and Vegeta that Goku simply '''cannot''' get drunk for some reason, while Vegeta can]. {{Hilarity Ensues}}, including a part where Goku and Nina sneak into Goku and Vegeta's rented out house only to find a agitated Piccolo waiting for them in the same way an angry parent waits for their child to get home from being late. Again some {{hilarity ensues}}.
** Part 7 features a side-story where Goku and Vegeta are inspecting the original characters' home city of Canton, Ohio and Vegeta, angry in his own way at the events of [[TheWarOnTerror 9/11]] (which had just happened earlier '''that day'''), wants to get drunk to the point of stupidness. Goku reluctantly agrees to let him have his moping, and they find a bar in which Nina happens to also be there also depressed about the day's events and gets to witness Goku and Vegeta getting into a Vodka-drunking contest, in which Goku wins by a hair [although it's implied by both Goku and Vegeta that Goku simply '''cannot''' get drunk for some reason, while Vegeta can]. {{Hilarity Ensues}}, including a part where Goku and Nina sneak into Goku and Vegeta's rented out house only to find a agitated Piccolo waiting for them in the same way an angry parent waits for their child to get home from being late. Again some {{hilarity ensues}}.
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* DesignatedVillain: Guido. He's not a good person, but the film makes him out to be worse than Gay.
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* SheReallyCanAct: This would have been the film to finally show Creator/MarilynMonroe for the talented actress she was, and she proves it.
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* BrokenBase: The "old" or "classic" Misfits (1977-1983) compared to the 1990's Misfits incarnation with Jerry and Doyle, but Micheal Graves instead of Glenn Danzig and Dr. Chud on the drums compared to the current version with Jerry Only on Bass and Vocals, Dez Cadena (of BlackFlag ) on guitar and Eric "Goat" Arce (of Murphy's Law) on the drums.
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* BrokenBase: The "old" or "classic" Misfits (1977-1983) compared to the 1990's Misfits incarnation with Jerry and Doyle, but Micheal Graves instead of Glenn Danzig and Dr. Chud on the drums compared to the current version with Jerry Only on Bass and Vocals, Dez Cadena (of BlackFlag Music/BlackFlag ) on guitar and Eric "Goat" Arce (of Murphy's Law) on the drums.
