History YMMV / RedHoodAndTheOutlaws

** Artemis's undercut likewise got the same reaction as Jason's buzz cut with many wishing she can grow back her hair really fast. [[AuthorsSavingThrow Which she did in one chapter.]]

*** The replacement of Roy and Joker's Daughter in favor of Artemis and Bizarro for Comicbook/DCRebirth. Some think a change is sorely needed after years of SeasonalRot, while others don't think that Creator/ScottLobdell can effectively write those characters.

* UncertainAudience: With Creator/ScottLobdell ignoring Jason's entire history and eschewing his characterization from [[WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood the popular film adaptation of 'Under the Red Hood']], there's a question of exactly who is this book written for. The book's anemic sales and poor reception seem to further exacerbate the problem, with seemingly the only thing keeping it afloat being [[ProtectionFromEditors Scott Lobdell's close ties to editor-in-chief Bob Harras]].

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** Jason coming back to Gotham, taking over the Iceberg Lounge, becoming a Don and messing with Batman? It would have been a great CharacterRerailment arc for Jason for those who like to see him return to his antagonistic ways if it wasn't quickly rushed. Albeit the ''Year of the Villain'' tie in may had something to do with it getting cut short.
** The entire run could be seen as this, because the concept isn't bad. Two former sidekicks who have had falling outs with their respective mentors eventually coming across each other. Roy Harper (at least before the ''ComicBook/New52'') had been something of a counselor to troubled younger heroes like Damage and he could have provided moral guidance to Jason who would balk at Roy's attempts to reach him but slowly go on the path towards a believable redemption arc. Unfortunately, we did not get that.

* MisBlamed: Scott Lobdell's most die-hard fans are eager to blame editorial, or other writers, for writing missteps. However, multiple interviews confirm that Lobdell's Rebirth run (which was decently well-received in relation to his body of work as a whole) had its direction, the roster make-up, and even some of the creative decisions tightly controlled by editorial. Lobdell himself has admitted that he often doesn't bother planning story arcs in advance, or doing research on characters that he's writing.

* TaintedByThePreview: The infamous first issue turned ''many'' people off from the series and years later is still one of the first things to surface anytime this book is talked about. Whether or not it has recovered since then is a point of debate, though [[SeasonalRot sales and critical reception]] has not been kind, and even readers who enjoyed the first issue have been turned away by recent issues.

* WinBackTheCrowd: The biggest positive reaction towards the title came when Scott Lobdell announced that he was finally leaving the title, after nearly a decade of mixed or negatively received comics.

* ShockingSwerve: [[spoiler: The reveal that Wingman is Willis Todd is this, considering all the foreshadowing that Solidary is supposed to be Willis Todd and even Ma Gunn is shown to recognize Solidary as the former.]] See AssPull above.

* {{Squick}}:
** Starfire's treatment as a nymphomaniac with the [[QuestionableConsent memory of a goldfish]] drew no shortage of backlash. See UnfortunateImplications for more information.
** Scott Lobdell's not-so-subtle implication that he viewed Jason as a self-inserted "flawed man seeking redemption" disgusted many fans, given Lobdell's repeated history of sexually harassing women. It's even worse when considering that Jason was written as a KarmaHoudini.

* DesignatedHero:
** Many readers felt that the series' portrayals of Jason, Roy, and Kori did not come across as heroic in any shape or form. Then again, they never identified themselves as heroes.
** The Dark Trinity version of the team plays with this trope, with the Outlaws playing the role of criminals to take down Gotham's underworld from the inside.

* HilariousInHindsight:
** In Comicbook/KingdomCome we were introduced to an older version of Lian (Roy's daughter from the old continuity) who went by the alias Red Hood, written ''long'' before Roy and Jason interacted much if at all. This could also count as HeartwarmingInHindsight, if Lian is ever born in this continuity it's entirely possible that Jason, who has now teamed up with her father, will be a prominent figure in her life and would actually give her a reason to take up the name.
** Many readers note that Jason comes across as an UnintentionallyUnsympathetic "hero" who is often written like an angstier pastiche of [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]], which was the original reason voters called in to kill him in the first place. Further exemplified with Comicbook/DCRebirth, in which Jason going undercover to take down a villainous organization, something that [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] has already been doing to [[Comicbook/{{Grayson}} much critical acclaim]]. Even more hilarious after ComicBook/NightwingRebirth's 50th issue where Dick took a DarkerAndEdgier attitude and fans can't help compare him to Jason.

* DorkAge: Despite running for almost ten years (with Comicbook/RedHoodArsenal taken into account) the general consensus has been that Jason Todd is better off dead than continuing to be written by Scott Lobdell.

* HoYay: The second Annual in which Jason and Roy team up again was dripping with this.
* [[ItsNotSupposedToWinOscars It's Not Supposed to Win Eisners]]: A common sentiment among readers is that they're [[JustHereForGodzilla only reading for flashy action scenes]], one which Creator/ScottLobdell shares.
* LesYay: Between Artemis and her friend Akila, it's never shown or said if they were lovers but it is heavily implied.

** For Volume 1

*** The fact that the pre-Rebirth incarnation of the title and its sequel ComicBook/RedHoodArsenal both deal with Jason becoming a less antagonistic figure and mending fences with the rest of the Batfamily: A interesting, welcome bit of character development that results in several heartwarming moments? A decent concept let down by [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot bad writing and rushed development]]? Or an utter train-wreck that does nothing but make Jason a KarmaHoudini and CreatorsPet?

** For Volume 2
*** Reception towards the Comicbook/DCRebirth series has been more mixed than the previous series: some think it's a genuine improvement, some say it to be only SoOkayItsAverage and only comes off as favorable when compared to the low bar of the previous run, and others find that it has done nothing to improve its status as one of DC's worst ongoings.
*** Jason's promise of not killing to Bruce in Volume 2 disappointed those who expected the return of a more brutal Red Hood.

*** Jason's involvement in ''Comicbook/DCYearOfTheVillain'' when he became a teacher is rife with this, with many wanting the kids gone and would rather only have Artemis and Bizarro on the team.

* FandomRivalry:
** It's a well-known running joke that fans of this particular series get extremely salty over the good critical and financial reception over ''Comicbook/{{Grayson}}'' and ''[[Comicbook/NightwingRebirth Nightwing]]''.
** Between readers who prefer Scott Lobdell's version of Red Hood and those that prefer Jason under the pen of Morrison, Zdarsky or anyone other than Scott Lobdell. Since Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws and Comicbook/RedHoodArsenal ran for almost a cumulative decade, there are many fans who were introduced to the character through these runs and are dismissive of any other interpretation of the character that strays too far from it. Meanwhile, fans of other writers writing Red Hood stories tend to be dismissive of Lobdell's version because of his writing style and [[{{Understatement}} questionable]] choices in characterization.
*** While this is normal for many comic book characters with long publication histories, Red Hood's is especially notable because of how ''little'' common ground these two parties share, and how vitriolic the two camps can get. Compared to other characters with more divided fandoms over which author wrote them better, Jason's tenure as the Red Hood isn't even ''two decades old.''

* HePannedItNowHeSucks:
** Starting with the first issue, the series had received highly negative reviews, with a wide list of criticisms which included (but was not limited to) the one-dimensional portrayal of Starfire, prompting fans who like the comic to defend the writer and lash out against criticisms of the book.
** While the Comicbook/DCRebirth series has generally been received better than previous runs, it's still drawn criticism, resulting in fans harassing reviewers who didn't like it.

* SeasonalRot: For those who [[SoOkayItsAverage didn't hate the Rebirth run]], the series took a sharp downward turn with #25, with Bizarro out of the picture, and Jason going solo as a NinetiesAntiHero.

* SoBadItsGood: Much of the dialogue falls into this category, especially in the ''Rebirth'' series, with lines like "you're like 50 shades of grating" achieving MemeticMutation thanks to its {{Narm}}.
* SoOkayItsAverage: The series relaunch in ''Rebirth'' has been hailed by [[SurprisinglyImprovedSequel some improvement]] over the ''New 52'' launch.
* {{Squick}}

** The entire run could be seen as this, because the concept isn't bad. Two former sidekicks who have had falling outs with their respective mentors eventually coming across each other. Roy Harper (at least before the ''ComicBook/New52'') had been something of a counselor to troubled younger heroes like Damage and he could have provided moral guidance to Jason who would balk at Roy's attempts to reach him but slowly go on the path towards a believable RedemptionArc. Unfortunately, we did not get that.

* BadassDecay: Prior to the series, Jason was portrayed as a WellIntentionedExtremist who planned ahead and was willing to kill to accomplish what he thought was necessary. In both the Comicbook/TheNew52 and Comicbook/DCRebirth series, Jason merely describes himself as a "bad guy", but actually spends most of his time angsting over having to follow Batman's rules. Somehow getting to this point with no redemption arc or HeelRealization from his previous mass-murdering activities.

** Between readers who prefer Scott Lobdell's version of Red Hood and those that prefer Jason under the pen of Morrison, Zdarsky or anyone other than Scott Lobdell. Since Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws and Comicbook/RedHoodArsenal ran for almost a cumulative decade, there are many fans who were introduced to the character through these runs and are dismissive of any other interpretation of the character that strays too far from it. Meanwhile, fans of other writers writing Red Hood stories tend to be dismissive of Lobdell's version because of his writing style and [[Main/{{Understatement}} questionable]] choices in characterization.

** "Red Hood fans hate good writing."[[labelnote:Explanation]]While Chip Zdarsky's ''Batman Urban Legends'' arc for ComicBook/DCInfiniteFrontier is widely praised, especially in comparison to [[DorkAge Scott Lobdell's mostly derided tenure on]] Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws, some Lobell loyalists have vocally disparaged Zdarsky on Twitter, Comic Book Roundup, and Comic Book Resources forums for writing Jason as flawed and allegedly less capable in combat. This led to other DC fans [[https://i.imgflip.com/5hokpw.jpg mocking]] them and [[https://i.redd.it/med9fo7rsw371.jpg making]] [[https://i.imgur.com/rigsHfj.jpeg memes]] about them hating otherwise acclaimed works.[[/labelnote]]

** The entire run could be seen as this, because the concept isn't bad. Two former sidekicks who have had falling outs with their respective mentors eventually coming across each other. Roy Harper (at least before the ''New52'') had been something of a counselor to troubled younger heroes like Damage and he could have provided moral guidance to Jason who would balk at Roy's attempts to reach him but slowly go on the path towards a believable RedemptionArc. Unfortunately, we did not get that.

** Red Hood. Some don't like the change and preferred his more ruthless characterization from his Pre-Flashpoint days. Others like the change and character development, prefer him separate from the batman family, and have his own adventures, and a third group also likes the change but find the writing subpar.

*** There are heated discussions on Twitter regarding Jason's sexuality. Some argue that the character should be bisexual, due to numerous HoYay moments in this and previous Red Hood stories, while others insist having him be bi would be too big a departure from the character. And then there are others who say just having some HoYay moments doesn't equate to actual being attracted to the same-sex, and just consider the HoYay moments as fanservice.

** Between readers who prefer Scott Lobdell's version of Red Hood and those that prefer Jason under the pen of Morrison, Zdarsky or anyone other than Scott Lobdell. Since Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws and Comicbook/RedHoodArsenal ran for almost a cumulative decade, there are many fans who were introduced to the character through these runs and are dismissive of any other interpretation of the character that stray too far from it. Meanwhile, fans of other writers writing Red Hood stories tend to be dismissive of Lobdell's version because of his writing style and [[Main/{{Understatement}} questionable]] choices in characterization.

** Starfire newest ongoing allows for fans to ignore her history with the boys.

** [[FanNickname Team Carrot-Top]] [[note]] In some continuities Jason is Strawberry-Blonde with dyed black hair. This makes it an entire team of red-heads.[[/note]]
** Jason stole someone's costume ''again.'' [[note]] The suit Jason wears is actually one of Nightwing's old suits. Add the fact that in the previous continuity Jason had a tendency to take other peoples suits and you’ve got a cesspool for a meme to emerge.[[/note]]
** At one point Starfire is drawn with a rather emoticon looking facial expression. Tumblr exploded.

** Jason's new outfit was really derided by fans as many feel like its a cheap copy to ComicBook/ThePunisher or [[Franchise/MortalKombat Sub Zero]]. While there are some who admit to liking the new outfit, ''nobody'' likes his new buzz haircut. It's kinda telling when Jason's old haircut was brought back after a few issues and various artists try his best to salvage the outfit to positive reviews.

* It's a well-known running joke that fans of this particular series get extremely salty over the good critical and financial reception over ''Comicbook/{{Grayson}}'' and ''[[Comicbook/NightwingRebirth Nightwing]]''.

* FandomRivalry: It's a well-known running joke that fans of this particular series get extremely salty over the good critical and financial reception over ''Comicbook/{{Grayson}}'' and ''[[Comicbook/NightwingRebirth Nightwing]]''.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Jason coming back to Gotham, taking over the Iceberg Lounge, becoming a Don and messing with Batman? It would have been a great CharacterRerailment arc for Jason for those who like to see him return to his antagonistic ways if it wasn't quickly rushed. Albeit the ''Year of the Villain'' tie in may had something to do with it getting cut short.

** Jason stole someone's costume ''again.'' [[note]] The suit Jason wears is actually one of Nightwing's old suits. Add the fact that in the previous continuity Jason had a tendency to take other peoples suits[[/note]]

** Many readers felt that the series' portrayals of Jason, Roy and Kori did not come across as heroic in any shape or form. Then again, they never identified themselves as heroes.

** Jason/Roy is a major ship, partly thanks to several HoYay moments between the two and partly due to Jason's lack of love interests, and partly due to the RelationshipWritingFumble of Roy and Kori.
** As of ''Rebirth'' Jason/Artemis has quickly become the fan favorite, with Bizarro being their adopted son type.

** The anti-hero "Outlaw" outfit for Jason. The Internet made numerous comparisons to VideoGame/MortalKombat, [[Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles Shredder]], and [[https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/613/323/e2e.jpg Coldsteel the Hedgeheg]].

** Jason's new outfit was really derided by fans as many feel like its a cheap copy to ComicBook/ThePunisher or [[VideoGame/MortalKombat Sub Zero]]. While there are some who admit to liking the new outfit, ''nobody'' likes his new buzz haircut. It's kinda telling when Jason's old haircut was brought back after a few issues and various artists try his best to salvage the outfit to positive reviews.

* FetishRetardant: Spines don't [[http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/6/4/6/113646_v1.jpg bend that way]]!

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* HePannedItNowHeSucks: Starting with the first issue, the series had received highly negative reviews, with a wide list of criticisms which included (but was not limited to) the one-dimensional portrayal of Starfire, prompting fans who like the comic to defend the writer and lash out against criticisms of the book.

* OneTrueThreesome: A huge wave of fanart for the series appeared after the title had ONLY been announced and the trio are shown together. It helps that in issue one Starfire has sex with Roy and Jason states he'd "been with" her adding more fuel to the fire. Issue six later reveals this to have been spending the entire night talking with her though.

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[[folder: The New 52]]
* AuthorsSavingThrow: Crux, who was originally intended to be the fourth member of the Outlaws, has a [[spoiler:HeelFaceTurn near the end of the run]] which could be considered this.
* FanonDiscontinuity:
** The issue 0 revealing that the Joker basically orchestrated Jason's becoming Robin and his death (as in even Jason finding his mom). Suffice to say, many don't like it, since the Joker comes off as a Villain Sue, and out of character, and outright ignore it. As of Comicbook/DCRebirth, it is no longer canon.
** Same said for Arsenal's new backstory of being a snotty child prodigy with a neglectful alcoholic dad.
** Jason's interactions with the Batfamily are often ignored by most Batman fans, due to how out-of-character the others seem. Notably, this even applies to many fans that like Jason who feel that while the idea behind the series was promising, the execution was poorly handled, rushed, and relied on telling instead of showing.
** Starfire newest ongoing allows for fans to ignore her history with the boys.
* FetishRetardant: Spines don't [[http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/6/4/6/113646_v1.jpg bend that way]]!
* OneTrueThreesome: A consistent element found on fanart of the series, a trend that continues even after the team's separation.
* RelationshipWritingFumble: General consensus on the Roy and Starfire relationship is that it's forced and feels like an obvious response to the criticism of the series' early portrayal of Starfire as a nympho without agency. At the same time, the nature of the QuestionableConsent of their first meeting is why many criticize the relationship in the first place.
* TaintedByThePreview: The infamous first issue turned ''many'' people off from the series and years later is still one of the first things to surface anytime this book is talked about. Whether or not it has recovered since then is a point of debate, though [[SeasonalRot sales and critical reception]] has not been kind, and even readers who enjoyed the first issue have been turned away by recent issues.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** James Tynion IV's changes to the series status quo were heavily criticized and promptly swept under the rug after Lobdell's return to the book.
** Roy Harper's new backstory. Many fans were unhappy that his Navajo upbringing was made a minor element on Roy's characterization and that his birth father was retconned from a forest ranger who died in a fire when Roy was three to a neglectful alcoholic that died much later.
** Starfire, whose famous InnocentFanserviceGirl and AllLovingHero character changed to an EthicalSlut who quickly forgot her friends had fans up in arms against her new portrayal.
** Many don't like Red Hood as just another generic UnintentionallyUnsympathetic "bad boy" anti-hero with Creator's Pet qualities and preferred him as a tragic and nuanced Batman antagonist.
* UnfortunateImplications: Kori's line in the first issue where she says that she doesn't remember anything about her time on Earth, which many readers took to mean that she has the memory of a goldfish and [[QuestionableConsent made the idea that she could consent]] pretty dubious. Later on, it's shown that she was [[ObfuscatingStupidity faking it]], but even that doesn't come across as mentally healthy. Add to that the fact that Roy thought she really was amnesiac at the time ''and still had sex with her'' and he doesn't come out looking good either. In general, Starfire's character, especially the way her non-emotional promiscuity has been depicted. There are ways to portray a tired, lonely, emotionally defeated young woman seeking comfort through anonymous hookups, and this is ''not'' one of them. Her portrayal as an object of male fantasy is further [[http://sequart.org/magazine/5415/sexism-sexuality-and-the-dc-relaunch/ discussed here]]. Keep in mind that this is the first issue, and thus her EstablishingCharacterMoment, which is what Scott Lobdell expects readers to think of her.

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[[folder: The Dark Trinity]]
* ArcFatigue:
** Jason continues to be hung up on his death and resentful towards the Batfamily, bringing it up in every issue in the ''Rebirth'' series, even during Artemis's DayInTheLimelight. It's even more jarring when compared to books he guest-stars in, where he's portrayed as having undergone progress.
** The "Smart Bizarro" arc ran for 12 issues at glacial pacing, to the detriment of Artemis and Jason's plotlines.
* AssPull: Wingman's identity being [[spoiler: Willis Todd.]] While there was foreshadowing to him being alive in the issues leading up to the reveal, all of it pointed towards [[spoiler:Solidary]] being his identity, up to his obsession with Red Hood and knowledge about his past. There was absolutely no foreshadowing or explanation as to how he received his training, or why Jason didn't recognize him as his (unmasked) limo driver during his "Prince of Gotham" phase.
* BrokenBase: Jason's new "Outlaw" outfit, as of issue #25. Many still mourn the loss of the more traditional leather jacket and helmet worn until then, seeing it as an iconic look for the character. As the series progressed, however, the outfit grew on many readers and has established a modest fanbase. The fact that it has become his "main" outfit in later storylines only continues to further divide the base.
* DieForOurShip: Isabel returning was not accepted by fans of Jason/Artemis, Jason/Starfire, or any other ships.
* HePannedItNowHeSucks: While the Comicbook/DCRebirth series has generally been received better than previous runs, it's still drawn criticism, resulting in fans harassing reviewers who didn't like it.
* HoYay: The second Annual in which Jason and Roy team up again was dripping with this.
* LesYay: Between Artemis and her friend Akila, it's never shown or said if they were lovers but it is heavily implied.
* ShockingSwerve: [[spoiler: The reveal that Wingman is Willis Todd is this, considering all the foreshadowing that Solidary is supposed to be Willis Todd and even Ma Gunn is shown to recognize Solidary as the former.]] See AssPull above.
* SoOkayItsAverage: The series relaunch in ''Rebirth'' has been hailed by [[SurprisinglyImprovedSequel some improvement]] over the ''New 52'' launch.
* TakeThatScrappy: Harvest, a villain from the New 52 widely despised for being an InvincibleVillain with [[GenericDoomsdayVillain hazy motives and a generic personality]], is unceremoniously found dead in one of his old bases in Issue #17 of the Rebirth series, having been murdered and crucified offscreen, and nobody is interested in looking further into his death. Given that Scott Lobdell created Harvest, this also counts as SelfDeprecatingHumor.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Jason coming back to Gotham, taking over the Iceberg Lounge, becoming a Don and messing with Batman? It would have been a great CharacterRerailment arc for Jason for those who like to see him return to his antagonistic ways if it wasn't quickly rushed. Albeit the ''Year of the Villain'' tie in may had something to do with it getting cut short.

** Artemis's undercut likewise got the same reaction as Jason's buzz cut with many wishing she can grow back her hair really fast. [[AuthorsSavingThrow Which she did in one chapter.]]
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* SeasonalRot:
** For those who [[SoOkayItsAverage didn't hate the Rebirth run]], the series took a sharp downward turn with #25, with Bizarro out of the picture, and Jason going solo as a NinetiesAntiHero.

* NeverLiveItDown: The infamous first issue turned ''many'' people off from the series and years later is still one of the first things to surface anytime this book is talked about. Whether or not it has recovered since then is a point of debate, though [[SeasonalRot sales and critical reception]] has not been kind, and even readers who enjoyed the first issue have been turned away by recent issues.

* CreatorWorship: Scott Lobdell has a vocal fanbase that is absolutely notorious for defending his writing at every turn, from attacking critics to [[{{Misblamed}} blaming anyone else for writing missteps]] to even defending his sexual harassment actions.

* WinBackTheCrowd: Arguably the biggest positive reaction towards the title came when Scott Lobdell announced that he was finally leaving the title, after nearly a decade of mixed or negatively received comics.

* BrokenBase: Jason's new "Outlaw" outfit, as of issue #25. Many still mourn the loss of the more traditional leather jacket and helmet worn until then, seeing it as an iconic look for the character. As the series progressed however, the outfit grew on many readers and has established a modest fanbase. The fact that it has become his "main" outfit in later storylines only continues to further divide the base.
* DieForOurShip: Downplayed example. Isabel returning was not accepted by fans of Jason/Artemis, Jason/Starfire or any other ships.

* BadassDecay:
** Prior to the series, Jason was portrayed as a WellIntentionedExtremist who planned ahead and was willing to kill to accomplish what he thought was necessary. In both the Comicbook/TheNew52 and Comicbook/DCRebirth series, Jason merely describes himself as a "bad guy", but actually spends most of his time angsting over having to follow Batman's rules. Somehow getting to this point with no redemption arc or HeelRealization from his previous mass-murdering activities.
** Reversed with ''The Outlaw'', which sees a more murderous Jason.

*** The fact that the pre-Rebirth incarnation of the title and its sequel ComicBook/RedHoodArsenal both deal with Jason becoming a less antagonistic figure and mending fences with the rest of the Batfamily: A interesting, welcome bit of character development that results in several heartwarming moments? A decent concept let down by [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot bad writing and rushed development]]? Or an utter train-wreck that does nothing but make Jason a KarmaHoudini?

* RelationshipWritingFumble / RomanticPlotTumor: General consensus on the Roy and Starfire relationship is that it's forced and feels like an obvious response to the criticism of the series' early portrayal of Starfire as a nympho without agency. At the same time, the nature of the QuestionableConsent of their first meeting is why many criticize the relationship in the first place.

** Dexter Soy has also been praised for his art in the Rebirth revival of the series. It's easy to see why, with [[http://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/dcn-wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/14022255/REDHOTO_5_-1.jpg splash pages]] such as [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/AB8J-pTUbzAQ7COPqF2mR5aVs8C-NdaW_oVXlwzjqXA-hx6egWLtttj5e43KurjHe_ZQfAzKGlWa=s1600 this]], [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/zrl6T1j42uMzy_LHRzXIzNhQOY9m3Ipegk9mew2GTpT4V2tVbSMxjsbHf0J_hp_5d4RSiQATrc6M=s1600 this]], [[http://s3-us-west-1b.amazonaws.com/dcn-wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/11194249/REDHOTO_3_1-666x1024.jpg this]], [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/N3p_EkBJUWQz2FvwNXoFOWta55xO1MBCIJMaERmcAeoaS4qkAzAqWohvFkSnosl1MT7QL6QojRyc=s1600 this]], [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/uyzcP7AubsqxfzXcuQRdjY5VzGElaHBKztk5OI4y818DQmA-TtI7BUUoavfUhOjxxvOZxIM5a4lI=s1600 this]], [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/x4qqSgsI6UUfUGFh4UXymZEDgONbNIraXy0VxOV8fo3QLgOHOBwuJ5niPFanHbQM8mpdKM6CxWEe=s1600 this]], [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/4cH8c1nIFUS8PSk0Yw1K251xQJoB-54F9DvhOIjjDauwUlCxHYnvEsAM17Tv3ZQEMolxwxj102k2hJYT91EGl9w3V_gKsxRU3ZBCqMM6LcE9zun49LeP5NHcXp_Cy77j2ETgdg=s1600 this]], and [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/4ajZQIHWKd4zSTK-a1QKfuJUNJWQXQomjrTpi4elpUaoN9tVAX4PpvB03NHFMCrm6jyjMylJp6N6NFVXAeG4lXz8iL3TC0gyDogcT9KF5VEWOFGExMSd7vjzxEYMP59h27nGyg=s1600 this]].

* ShockingSwerve: [[spoiler: The reveal that Wingman is Willis Todd is this, considering all the foreshadowing that Solidary is supposed to be Willis Todd and even Ma Gunn is shown to recognize Solidary as the former.]]