History YMMV / BatmanTheTelltaleSeries

* FoeYay:
** Batman and Catwoman's SnarkToSnarkCombat carries shades of this. [[spoiler: They can become a couple and can even have sex if the player chooses to.]]
** A few fans have taken to shipping Penguin and Bruce.[[note]]The ship name is called Cobblebats, coined by [[ShipperOnDeck a Telltale employee]] working on the game.[[/note]]
** Bruce Wayne and John Doe share a very disturbing trust in one another. It helps that [[spoiler: Joker]] already has a strange subtext with the Dark Knight in most other media. Not only that, but John Doe really seems to be most sympathetic, sane (relatively) and friendly patient in Arkham up and until we see his way of distracting people. In ''Enemy Within'''s second episode, when John reveals that he's in love, [[AmbiguousSyntax Bruce can ask if John is in love with him]]. John takes a few seconds to sincerely ponder the question before saying that he's not, but hopes that he can Bruce can still be friends. Later, when listing off Bruce's good points he can note that he's "handsome... super handsome!"
*** The same scene can have John shout out "[[AnguishedDeclarationOfLove WHY WON'T YOU LOVE ME]]?!" to Bruce... [[ComicRolePlay while he's roleplaying as Harley]] so John can practice.
*** And a depressing version comes on at the climax of Episode 4, [[spoiler: where Vigilante!Joker will sadly remark "Bruce taught me to be good, Harley. Like you never could."]]
*** In the final episode of the season Bruce can tell [[spoiler: Villain!Joker that he broke his heart. "You broke my heart, John. I did need you. I cared about you. But you took what I gave you and twisted it into something ugly and wrong."]]
*** In the Vigilante route Joker states he wanted to, "Be loved by you." to Batman.
*** [[https://kmudle.tumblr.com/post/180734796446/i-dont-know-if-you-can-answer-this-and-its According to]] [[WordofGod director Kent Mudle]], John was treated as bi and he has feelings for both Bruce and Harley, with a slight preference for Bruce.

* Foe Yay:

* FoeYay:

* ShockingSwerve:

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** Amanda Waller in the finale attempts to justify all her immoral actions by arguing how she wanted to bring good for others in the end, but it may fall flat since her immoral actions can be seen as outweighing her noble intentions. Such as trying to shoot John right after he disarmed his crush and prevented a bridge from being blown up just because he wouldn't hand over the virus causing him to become a violent psychopathic vigilante in response. It's not present in the Villain route where she praises Bruce for saving the day, even pulls in multiple favors for him as thanks and promises to keep his identity a secret in a genuine tone. In the Vigilante route however, Batman obtains files that expose her dirty dealings such as having witnesses killed and keeping Sanctus equipment and keeps the pact under her thumb using shock collars which is highly illegal and can potentially get people killed which severely undermines her arguments.

* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[PosthumousCharacter The Vales]], John and Patricia, are a pair of [[AbusiveParents monstrous foster parents]] who are responsible for Lady Arkham's insanity. Under the guise of being loving parents, the Vales take in foster children, but truthfully only want the government stipends that the kids' presences bring. Showcasing their [[ChildHater heinous hatred for children]], the Vales would lock their kids inside an [[TortureCellar underground room]], shackling them and [[WouldHurtAChild beating them bloody]] with belts over the course of years, regarding the children as nothing but animals to abuse and profit from to their liking.]]

* CompleteMonster ("Guardian of Gotham" & "City of Light"): [[spoiler:[[PosthumousCharacter The Vales]], John and Patricia, are a pair of [[AbusiveParents monstrous foster parents]] who are responsible for Lady Arkham's insanity. Under the guise of being loving parents, the Vales take in foster children, but truthfully only want the government stipends that the kids' presences bring. Showcasing their [[ChildHater heinous hatred for children]], the Vales would lock their kids inside an [[TortureCellar underground room]], shackling them and [[WouldHurtAChild beating them bloody]] with belts over the course of years, regarding the children as nothing but animals to abuse and profit from to their liking.]]

* WhatAnIdiot:
** The unnamed officer at the start of Episode 1 who flat-out disobeys Gordon's explicit order not to fire upon Batman. '''''Right in front of Gordon.'''''
** The Agency manages to implant a shock collar onto Bane to keep him under their thumb. However, they send the agent who controls Bane ''out in the same battlefield as the berserk villain'' to keep an eye on him instead of having the controlling agent away at a safe distance where Bane can't reach him. Unsurprisingly, this leads to Bane breaking free from his control temporarily to rampage. Even worse? There’s an Agency helicopter that’s used to drop off Bane, meaning there’s zero justification for the collar controller being on the ground in the first place.

* CompleteMonster: [[PosthumousCharacter The Vales]], John and Patricia, are a pair of [[AbusiveParents monstrous foster parents]] that are responsible for Lady Arkham's insanity. Under guise of being loving parents, the Vales take in foster children under their care, but truthfully only want the government stipends that the kids' presences bring. Showcasing their [[ChildHater heinous hatred]] for children, the Vales would lock their kids inside an underground room, shackling them and [[WouldHurtAChild beating them bloody]] with belts over the course of years, regarding the children as nothing but animals to abuse and profit from to their liking.

* FanPreferredCouple: 90% of players had Bruce and Selina hook up in episode 3.

* MagnificentBastard: [[ProfessionalKiller Floyd Lawton]], aka [[Characters/BatmanDeadshot Deadshot]], is a wealthy military contractor seeking vengeance against the Wayne name for his horrific childhood. [[DarkAndTroubledPast Scarred by a past of tragedy]], Lawton witnessed his cherished older brother's murder at the hands of their abusive parents, going on to avenge his sibling by coldly murdering his parents and getting away with it at the age of fourteen. In adulthood, Lawton learns that his parents were enabled and kept out of law enforcement's eyes by Thomas Wayne, and, blaming the long-dead man and his living associates for his brother's death, Lawton becomes the assassin "Deadshot." Beginning to track down and systematically murder all of Wayne's former compatriots, Deadshot confronts and outwits ComicBook/{{Batman}} himself with several traps and decoys, and even kidnaps the man's butler, Alfred Pennyworth, to use as a hostage. Planning to force Batman to either kill him or let the hostage associates of Thomas Wayne die, Deadshot can only express respect and acceptance for Batman when beaten, simply moving on to join a [[ComicBook/SuicideSquad government task force]] for an early release from prison with a smile.

* HilariousInHindsight: Isn't the last time batman fights a mysterious figure who turns out to be [[spoiler: a daughter of the Arkham family]] with the comics Arkhan Knight having some similarities.

** Fans are divided on [[spoiler: Alfred's]] actions and arguments following the Season 2 finale. [[spoiler: He claims that Batman is doing more harm than good, that he’s creating his own villains, that the mission is too stressful to continue, and that Bruce could better serve Gotham using his other resources. Many think Alfred is being [[{{Wangst}} whiny]] and selfish (it's made clear that his guilt over enabling Thomas Wayne plays a large part in his decision to leave) and emotionally abusive for abandoning his foster son. Others believe Alfred has a right to leave as he is an old man and the stress of working as Bruce's support and having been kidnapped have taken their toll. Furthermore, Alfred's points -- that Bruce will end up dead like his father and that Batman just makes things worse -- do have arguable merit: Bruce comes seriously close to dying in both the Vigilante and Villain routes, and Two-Face, Joker, Penguin, and Lady Arkham were either created or inspired by Batman (especially Joker) and Bruce's crusade being directly or indirectly responsible for Lucius Fox’s death and Tiffany's subsequent murder of Riddler, Alfred accumulating trauma, and Bruce nearly dying several times. Other fans point out, however that Penguin and Lady Arkham were evil long before Batman came into play and that Harvey already had deep seated mental problems that would have come to the surface whether or not Batman was there (after all being Mayor is a stressful job). What’s more, Batman has already demonstrated that he has been doing good as Bruce Wayne like funding the rebuilding of Arkham Asylum and funding his honest DA friends Political campaign. Player choice blurs the line further, with Alfred's points becoming stronger or weaker depending on the consequences of their decisions, and their responses to his assertions]]. In fact Website/{{YouTube}}r [=IBeerlezy=] points out that Lady Arkhan would have still captured Alfred in season one anyways. It was only because Bruce was Batman that Alfred was rescued as he'd merely been Bruce Alfred would have died for sure.]]

** Fans are divided on [[spoiler: Alfred's]] actions and arguments following the Season 2 finale. [[spoiler: He claims that Batman is doing more harm than good, that he’s creating his own villains, that the mission is too stressful to continue, and that Bruce could better serve Gotham using his other resources. Many think Alfred is being [[{{Wangst}} whiny]] and selfish (it's made clear that his guilt over enabling Thomas Wayne plays a large part in his decision to leave) and emotionally abusive for abandoning his foster son. Others believe Alfred has a right to leave as he is an old man and the stress of working as Bruce's support and having been kidnapped have taken their toll. Furthermore, Alfred's points -- that Bruce will end up dead like his father and that Batman just makes things worse -- do have arguable merit: Bruce comes seriously close to dying in both the Vigilante and Villain routes, and Two-Face, Joker, Penguin, and Lady Arkham were either created or inspired by Batman (especially Joker) and Bruce's crusade being directly or indirectly responsible for Lucius Fox’s death and Tiffany's subsequent murder of Riddler, Alfred accumulating trauma, and Bruce nearly dying several times. Other fans point out, however that Penguins’ and Lady Arkham were evil long before Batman came into play and that Harvey already had deep seated mental problems that would have come to the surface whether or not Batman was there (after all being Mayor is a stressful job. What’s more, Batman has already demonstrated that he has been doing good as Bruce Wayne like funding the rebuilding of Arkham Asylum and funding his honest DA friends Political campaign.Player choice blurs the line further, with Alfred's points becoming stronger or weaker depending on the consequences of their decisions, and their responses to his assertions]].
*** Other fans point out, however that Penguins’ and Lady Arkham were evil long before Batman came into play. What’s more, Batman has already demonstrated that he has been doing good as Bruce Wayne like funding the rebuilding of Arkham Asylum and funding his honest DA friends Political campaign. In fact Website/{{YouTube}}r [=IBeerlezy=] points out that Lady Arkhan would have still captured Alfred in season one anyways. It was only because Bruce was Batman that Alfred was rescued as he'd merely been Bruce Alfred would have died for sure.

* MagnificentBastard: Floyd Lawton, aka ComicBook/{{Deadshot}}, is a wealthy military contractor seeking vengeance against the Wayne name for his horrific childhood. [[DarkAndTroubledPast Scarred by a past of tragedy]], Lawton witnessed his cherished older brother's murder at the hands of their abusive parents, going on to avenge his sibling by coldly murdering his parents and getting away with it at the age of fourteen. In adulthood, Lawton learns that his parents were enabled and kept out of law enforcement's eyes by Thomas Wayne, and, blaming the long-dead man and his living associates for his brother's death, Lawton becomes the assassin "Deadshot." Beginning to track down and systematically murder all of Wayne's former compatriots, Deadshot confronts and outwits ComicBook/{{Batman}} himself with several traps and decoys, and even kidnaps the man's butler, Alfred Pennyworth, to use as a hostage. Planning to force Batman to either kill him or let the hostage associates of Thomas Wayne die, Deadshot can only express respect and acceptance for Batman when beaten, simply moving on to join a government task force for an early release from prison with a smile.

** The Agency manages to implant a shock collar onto Bane to keep him under their thumb. However, they send the agent who controls Bane ''out in the same battlefield as the berserk villain'' to keep an eye on him instead of having the controlling agent away at a safe distance where Bane can't reach him. Unsurprisingly, this leads to Bane breaking free from his control temporarily to rampage.

** You'd Expect: That, with the situation largely defused, that Waller would calmly negotiate for the return of the virus.
** What Happens: [[spoiler: She pulls a gun on the guy that had ''just'' saved everyone's asses and threatens to kill him unless he hands the virus over now - while he's still holding both the virus and the detonator. This prompts him to detonate the bridge, potentially stab her, and declare that he and Batman will upend the Agency ''for justice'']].

* MagnificentBastard:
** Lady Arkham, real name of [[spoiler: Victoria Arkham AKA "Vicki" Vale]], is the charming, strategic leader of the Children of Arkham, a terrorist organization seeking absolution for the crimes committed against them by the higher society of Gotham City. A victim of abuse who lost her parents at a young age thanks to [[spoiler: Thomas Wayne's corruption]], Arkham spent her childhood plotting revenge and making schemes, and upon adulthood, puts these into action as she rallies the otherwise peaceful Children of Arkham and radicalizes them into a military force. Utilizing an insanity drug to drive mayor Harvey Dent mad--injecting the serum into the other candidate in the process as a precaution--Arkham uses her public guise to masterfully manipulate the situation to seem as though the Children of Arkham are heroes, driving [[spoiler: Bruce Wayne]] himself temporarily insane and getting him thrown into Arkham Asylum. When her master plan to flood the streets with her insanity drug fails, Arkham initiates her backup plan to raid Arkham Asylum and free the dozens of inmates as a final "justice" against the corrupt Asylum's checkered past.
** Floyd Lawton, aka ComicBook/{{Deadshot}}, is a wealthy military contractor seeking vengeance against the Wayne name for his horrific childhood. [[DarkAndTroubledPast Scarred by a past of tragedy]], Lawton witnessed his cherished older brother's murder at the hands of their abusive parents, going on to avenge his sibling by coldly murdering his parents and getting away with it at the age of fourteen. In adulthood, Lawton learns that his parents were enabled and kept out of law enforcement's eyes by Thomas Wayne, and, blaming the long-dead man and his living associates for his brother's death, Lawton becomes the assassin "Deadshot." Beginning to track down and systematically murder all of Wayne's former compatriots, Deadshot confronts and outwits ComicBook/{{Batman}} himself with several traps and decoys, and even kidnaps the man's butler, Alfred Pennyworth, to use as a hostage. Planning to force Batman to either kill him or let the hostage associates of Thomas Wayne die, Deadshot can only express respect and acceptance for Batman when beaten, simply moving on to join a government task force for an early release from prison with a smile.

** Telling Waller to get the ''hell'' out of Gotham in Episode 5, [[TranquilFury first calmly]], and then followed by an ''very'' angry "[[SuddenlyShouting NOW!]]". The look of surprise and fear on her face, while brief, is ''very'' satisfying nonetheless.

** John Doe may have NoSocialSkills and be pretty AxCrazy, but [[spoiler: after being freed from Arkham Asylum, he has no idea what do do with himself, as when he was in Arkham, he at least knew the rules.]] The Woobie part comes in especially if you have Bruce act rude him, he still tries to be a good friend to Bruce. He ends up losing everything in episode 4 to the point where he nearly gives up on Bruce. If Bruce makes him a Vigilante, John desperately tries to be a hero but due to Waller's stupidity he ends up snapping. If Bruce tells him they were never friends John is heartbroken and even if Bruce tells John they were friends John still sadly considers Bruce crazy for that. If he becomes a villain he kills thousands of people but still is unwilling to kill Bruce and sadly remebers there times together as friends admitting he knew Bruce never truly wanted to be his friend.

* MagnificentBitch:

* MagnificentBitch: Lady Arkham, real name of [[spoiler: Victoria Arkham AKA "Vicki" Vale]], is the charming, strategic leader of the Children of Arkham, a terrorist organization seeking absolution for the crimes committed against them by the higher society of Gotham City. A victim of abuse who lost her parents at a young age thanks to [[spoiler: Thomas Wayne's corruption]], Arkham spent her childhood plotting revenge and making schemes, and upon adulthood, puts these into action as she rallies the otherwise peaceful Children of Arkham and radicalizes them into a military force. Utilizing an insanity drug to drive mayor Harvey Dent mad--injecting the serum into the other candidate in the process as a precaution--Arkham uses her public guise to masterfully manipulate the situation to seem as though the Children of Arkham are heroes, driving [[spoiler: Bruce Wayne]] himself temporarily insane and getting him thrown into Arkham Asylum. When her master plan to flood the streets with her insanity drug fails, Arkham initiates her backup plan to raid Arkham Asylum and free the dozens of inmates as a final "justice" against the corrupt Asylum's checkered past.

* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Anthony Ingruber was finally able to show off his true acting skills as John Doe in Season 2 once his character gained main focus in the plot. His performance [[spoiler: as the Joker]] was also able to earn him some fan appreciation in the finale, where he gets some of the creepiest and most emotional moments with Bruce as well, giving his role some well-deserved justice.

*** Other fans point out, however that Penguins’ and Lady Arkham were evil long before Batman came into play. What’s more, Batman has already demonstrated that he has been doing good as Bruce Wayne like funding the rebuilding of Arkham Asylum and funding his honest DA friends Political campaign. In fact YouTuber IBeerlezy points out that Lady Arkhan would have still captured Alfred in season one anyways. It was only because Bruce was Batman that Alfred was rescued as he'd merely been Bruce Alfred would have died for sure.

* ToughActToFollow: Being the first major Batman game to come after the critically acclaimed ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries'' gave Telltale a tough hill to climb. With both seasons going on to become critically acclaimed by longtime Telltale fans burned out by the lowering quality of their [[VideoGame/TheWalkingDead other]] [[VideoGame/TelltalesGameOfThrones releases]], it's safe to say this iteration of Batman will stand the test of time and become just as iconic.

*** Other fans point out, however that Penguins’ and Lady Arkham were evil long before Batman came into play and that Harvey already had deep seated mental problems that would have come to the surface whether or not Batman was there (after all being Mayor is a stressful job. What’s more, Batman has already demonstrated that he has been doing good as Bruce Wayne like funding the rebuilding of Arkham Asylum and funding his honest DA friends Political campaign.

* CryForTheDevil: Surprisingly, given [[DiscOneFinalBoss his]] [[{{Jerkass}} role]] in the story, Carmine Falcone may elicit this reaction during his scene with Bruce [[spoiler:in the infirmary]]. The scene is rather quiet and even a little melancholic, with all the revelations about Thomas and Martha (especially if the player decides to have Bruce "play nice" and not threaten him). Falcone acts nicer to Bruce than during their first meeting and seems to remember fondly of [[spoiler:Thomas and Martha Wayne]]. Even claiming that they were close friends, practically family and [[spoiler:that he has a closet full of birthday presents he was never able to give Bruce]]. If Bruce gives him morphine to ease his pain, [[spoiler:he says he reminds him of his mother's kindness. At first, you can have Bruce angrily rebuke him, giving the impression that [[ReallyGetsAround Falcone was going to imply something untoward about her.]] Falcone is sounds genuinely confused about the rebuke since he was being [[SincerityMode sincere.]]]] All in all, with him [[spoiler:lying down injured on the bed and his dialogues implying that he's a RecoveredAddict who managed to keep clean during 40 years and him referring to himself as an "old dog", Falcone gives the impression of being an old lion that has finally been brought down]]. Whether it qualifies as AlasPoorVillain or not is up to anyone's interpretation though. Regardless, this seems to be the intended audience reaction [[spoiler:so that his murder looks more heinous and to make him look much nicer than Thomas Wayne and Mayor Hill.]]

** Batman and Catwoman's SnarkToSnarkCombat carries shades of this. [[spoiler: They can become a couple if the player chooses to.]]

** John Doe may have NoSocialSkills and be pretty AxCrazy, but [[spoiler: after being freed from Arkham Asylum, he has no idea what do do with himself, as when he was in Arkham, he at least knew the rules.]]

** Penguin crosses it when [[spoiler:shooting the innocent debate moderator]]. Even Bruce admits this event cemented that [[ThatManIsDead his best friend is gone]].

** Harvey crossed it in episode 4 when [[spoiler: he blew up the Children of Arkham's weapon hideout, killing several cops and innocent civilians]].
** A random {{mook|s}} in Episode 4 actually manages to pass it when he [[spoiler: coldly executes a fellow police officer by shooting him in the head for not having the stones to kill a helpless civilian when ordered to, even if the player was helping said officers have a HeelRealization]].

*** If the player alternatively goes the [[spoiler:Vigilante Route, John Doe crosses it by brutally murdering three members of the Agency after they step in to try to apprehend him, [[SanitySlippage becoming the Joker]].]]

** Fans are divided on [[spoiler: Alfred's]] actions and arguments following the Season 2 finale. [[spoiler: He claims that Batman is doing more harm than good, that he’s creating his own villains, that the mission is too stressful to continue, and that Bruce could better serve Gotham using his other resources. Many think Alfred is being [[{{Wangst}} whiny]] and selfish (it's made clear that his guilt over enabling Thomas Wayne plays a large part in his decision to leave) and emotionally abusive for abandoning his foster son. Others believe Alfred has a right to leave as he is an old man and the stress of working as Bruce's support and having been kidnapped have taken their toll. Furthermore, Alfred's points -- that Bruce will end up dead like his father and that Batman just makes things worse -- do have arguable merit: Bruce comes seriously close to dying in both the Vigilante and Villain routes, and Two-Face, Joker, Penguin, and Lady Arkham were either created or inspired by Batman (especially Joker) and Bruce's crusade being directly or indirectly responsible for Lucius Fox’s death and Tiffany's subsequent murder of Riddler, Alfred accumulating trauma, and Bruce nearly dying several times. Player choice blurs the line further, with Alfred's points becoming stronger or weaker depending on the consequences of their decisions, and their responses to his assertions]].