History WMG / SengokuBasara

Most of KOEI cameo references in SB3 looks like compliments rather then TakeThat:

* TheDarkChick: Shima Sakon

* This one looks like InsultBackfire: Utsunomiya Hirotsuna wants to be a [[VideoGame/SamuraiWarriors Samurai Warrior]]. Too bad, KOEI doesn't make nobodies of whom even Wiki/TheOtherWiki has zero entry into their games cast.

[[WMG: Capcom has once again reignited the '[[StreetFighter Dan]] [[JokeCharacter Hibiki]]' rivalry with KOEI]]

*** This may actually go way back before ''Sengoku Basara 2''. Before that, there was ''Kessen 3'', which gives UsefulNotes/OdaNobunaga a sympathetic light. Which would be okay, if KOEI didn't include that one scene where Nobunaga slays Akechi Hidemitsu AKA Samanosuke, protagonist of ''Franchise/{{Onimusha}}''. Capcom did not take the treatment of their ''Onimusha'''s main protagonist well, so they retaliated with Kanetsugu's portrayal, continuing the fire.

[[WMG: The Toyotomi faction will be a FiveBadBand in Sengoku Basara 4]]

*** This may actually go way back before ''Sengoku Basara 2''. Before that, there was ''Kessen 3'', which gives UsefulNotes/OdaNobunaga a sympathetic light. Which would be okay, if KOEI didn't include that one scene where Nobunaga slays Akechi Hidemitsu AKA Samanosuke, protagonist of ''VideoGame/{{Onimusha}}''. Capcom did not take the treatment of their ''Onimusha'''s main protagonist well, so they retaliated with Kanetsugu's portrayal, continuing the fire.

*** If the fire is also from ''Onimusha'', then Chronicles 2nd continued it. [[YagyuJubei Yagyu Munenori]]: In ''Warriors'' he's a just and honorable swordsman wanting the war to just end. In ''Onimusha'', he's an utterly evil prick.

* This one looks like InsultBackfire: Utsunomiya Hirotsuna wants to be a [[VideoGame/SamuraiWarriors Samurai Warrior]]. Too bad, KOEI doesn't make nobodies of whom even OtherWiki has zero entry into their games cast.

*** This may actually go way back before ''Sengoku Basara 2''. Before that, there was ''Kessen 3'', which gives OdaNobunaga a sympathetic light. Which would be okay, if KOEI didn't include that one scene where Nobunaga slays Akechi Hidemitsu AKA Samanosuke, protagonist of ''VideoGame/{{Onimusha}}''. Capcom did not take the treatment of their ''Onimusha'''s main protagonist well, so they retaliated with Kanetsugu's portrayal, continuing the fire.

So far it's obvious that Oyakata-sama dies before the events of ''Sengoku Basara 3'' which is the main reason Yukimura became bitter and wanted revenge on Tokugawa. Taking torch after his beloved mentor he managed to lead a great campaign against Tokugawa and he was very close to killing him but exhausted with fighting he couldn't protect himself anymore. The last opponent he faced was Honda Tadakatsu. Tadakatsu being an existence powered with [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann spiral power]] took pity on Yukimura, who was always his worthy opponent and gave him another chance, using his power to send Yukimura back in time to circa 1573 where the real Shingen died. After Yukimura recovered he took his name and changed his appearance to what we know as ''Basara'''s Takeda Shingen. He also took care of his younger self and tried to change his fate, but actually he only caused a StableTimeLoop.

*** This may actually go way back before ''Sengoku Basara 2''. Before that, there was ''Kessen 3'', which gives OdaNobunaga a sympathetic light. Which would be okay, if KOEI didn't include that one scene where Nobunaga slays Akechi Hidemitsu AKA Samanosuke, protagonist of ''{{Onimusha}}''. Capcom did not take the treatment of their ''Onimusha'''s main protagonist well, so they retaliated with Kanetsugu's portrayal, continuing the fire.

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Somehow he managed to see the future circa 1980' and he was really fond of it, but somehow he saw punk/metal subculture and that's why he styled his horse with Harley Davidson exhaus pipes and remembered a few english phrases. Most likely he also liked ''Guns'n'Roses'', and that's why he says 'PUT YA GUNS ON'.

The chronological release of ''SamuraiWarriors'' and ''Sengoku Basara'' are as follows (Japanese releases):

* March 21st, 2007: Koei released ''[[WarriorsOrochi Musou Orochi]]''

Now, if we look at the timeline, Naoe Kanetsugu was first introduced in ''SamuraiWarriors 2'' by KOEI, as a fairly serious figure and judging by how they like portraying the Tokugawa as the eventual villain, they team Kanetsugu up with Yukimura and Mitsunari, and they form the main PowerTrio, which thanks to Yukimura being the poster boy, get to be the heroes.

So, come ''WarriorsOrochi'', Koei decidedly picked two of ''Basara'''s PowerTrio of poster boys, Masamune and Keiji, and turn them into Orochi's underlings. They obviously can't do it with Yukimura since Yukimura is also their poster boy. This status quo continues to ''WarriorsOrochi 2''.

** Never mind that Capcom Mitsunari is more capable in battle and KOEI Mitsunari was never a poster boy. The one who got it hard is Kanbe: Briliant strategist in ''Warriors'' and complete idiot in ''Basara''.

* This one looks like InsultBackfire: Utsunomiya Hirotsuna wants to be a [[SamuraiWarriors Samurai Warrior]]. Too bad, KOEI doesn't make nobodies of whom even OtherWiki has zero entry into their games cast.

''SamuraiShodown'' and ''RurouniKenshin'' have both portrayed this guy for a villain. And the Shimabara uprising happened during the Tokugawa era. Think about it.

[[WMG: Nobunaga have access to some kind of world/dimention-jumping power.]]

VERY possible. In Nobunaga's Drama Route in "4", he [[spoiler: personally challenges Yoshiteru, who asked him something like “Are you perhaps interested, shall we say, you yourself from ANOTHER world?” — Cue Nobunaga appearing in Honno'ji (yup, the same spot where he supposedly met his doom in "1" and "2" at Mitsuhide's hands, and mad his hellish [[BackFromTheDead return]] in "3"), massacring everyone–including Mitsuhide and (gasp!) HIMSELF, before the whole world distorts and twists amidst his maniacal [[EvilLaugh guffaw]].]] The catch?—Remember how returning characters retained their movesets in "3" and "Utage"? in the [[spoilers: supposed AlternateUniverse]] that is "4", and Nobunaga STILL has access to that [[OneWingedAngel demonic silhouette]] that assists him in battle? It all makes sense now: [[spoilers: the other Nobunaga and Mitsuhide killed by world-jumping Nobunaga in "4" are the ones from the stories of "1" and "2"; and that BadassOutOfHell from "3" is not The Demon King revived, but the more badass one from "4" who jumped to the world of "3", which is a continuation of "1" and "2". ]]

Ieyasu is serving as a sixth ranger TokenGoodTeammate, seeing that the game feels like a prequal.

Just look at her: Red hair, Caucasian face and skin tone.. She was probably a European orphan brought by the traders, then the Magoichi at that time adopted her and name her Sayaka.

[[WMG: There will be a AU spin off game called Imjin Basara

The chronological release of ''SamuraiWarriors'' and ''SengokuBasara'' are as follows (Japanese releases):

Then come ''SengokuBasara 2'', Capcom implemented Kanetsugu... as the JokeCharacter who kept screaming "I'M INVINCIBLE!!/MUTEKI!!!".

Now, Capcom has added fuel to the fire by making Mitsunari in ''SengokuBasara 3'' a screaming emo who is dark and has few morals. And Kanetsugu is STILL the JokeCharacter.

*** This may actually go way back before ''SengokuBasara 2''. Before that, there was ''Kessen 3'', which gives OdaNobunaga a sympathetic light. Which would be okay, if KOEI didn't include that one scene where Nobunaga slays Akechi Hidemitsu AKA Samanosuke, protagonist of ''{{Onimusha}}''. Capcom did not take the treatment of their ''Onimusha'''s main protagonist well, so they retaliated with Kanetsugu's portrayal, continuing the fire.

**** If the fire is also from ''Onimusha'', then Chronicles 2nd continued it. [[YagyuJubei Yagyu Munenori]]: In ''Warriors'' he's a just and honorable swordsman wanting the war to just end. In ''Onimusha'', he's an utterly evil prick on CompleteMonster level.

*** This may actually go way back before ''SengokuBasara 2''. Before that, there was ''Kessen 3'', which gives OdaNobunaga a sympathetic light. Which would be okay, if KOEI didn't include that one scene where Nobunaga slays Akechi Hidemitsu AKA Samanosuke, protagonist of ''{{Onimusha}}''. Capcom did not take the treatment of their ''Onimusha'''s main protagonist well, so they retaliated with Kanetsugu's portrayal, continuing the fire.

So, come ''WarriorsOrochi'', Koei decidedly picked two of ''Basara'''s PowerTrio of poster boys, Masamune and Keiji, and turn them into Orochi's underlings (CharacterDerailment or not, YourMileageMayVary). They obviously can't do it with Yukimura since Yukimura is also their poster boy. This status quo continues to ''WarriorsOrochi 2''.