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* The entire MagicalGirl genre may be cursed. The creator of ''Anime/SallyTheWitch'', the very first magical girl TV anime, died in a house fire, earthquakes supposedly occur every time ''Anime/MinkyMomo'' is rebroadcast (including the 1995 Kobe quake), and ''Anime/YukiYunaIsAHero'' may have affected seiyuu Creator/RisaTaneda (also only one degree removed from it; she was in ''Manga/KiniroMosaic'', another Creator/StudioGokumi production), who took a break from acting after being stricken with [[OhCrap an undisclosed illness]].

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* The entire MagicalGirl genre may be cursed. The creator of ''Anime/SallyTheWitch'', ''Manga/SallyTheWitch'', the very first magical girl TV anime, died in a house fire, earthquakes supposedly occur every time ''Anime/MinkyMomo'' is rebroadcast (including the 1995 Kobe quake), and ''Anime/YukiYunaIsAHero'' may have affected seiyuu Creator/RisaTaneda (also only one degree removed from it; she was in ''Manga/KiniroMosaic'', another Creator/StudioGokumi production), who took a break from acting after being stricken with [[OhCrap an undisclosed illness]].
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* They might be able to make a 13th episode or do the same thing as what they did to ''LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}''.

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* They might be able to make a 13th episode or do the same thing as what they did to ''LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}''.''Literature/{{Bakemonogatari}}''.



Well with all the [[JustForFun/IntellectualPropertyReligion Madokamists]] preaching Madoka as our [[MessianicArchetype Saviour]] we didn't notice that [[FanNickname Homuhomu]] is always there protecting Madoka even if it means bearing the eternal torment of [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya an endless recursion of time]], and isn't that like something Jesus would do for your salvation? Initially, in the original timeline, Madoka is a full-blown messiah who suffers for Homuhomu. When Homuhomu wished for Time Lord powers to protect Madoka, in other timelines (like the series timeline) she suffers for Madoka, making Madoka gain the power of multiple universes revolving around her and making her think about what she really wants to wish. In the end, Madokami is able to suffer and die for everyone's sins, bearing the eternal torment of the world's despair upon her to prevent witches from happening, and in the new witch-free timeline that she created, Homuhomu protects.

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Well with all the [[JustForFun/IntellectualPropertyReligion Madokamists]] preaching Madoka as our [[MessianicArchetype Saviour]] we didn't notice that [[FanNickname Homuhomu]] is always there protecting Madoka even if it means bearing the eternal torment of [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya [[Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya an endless recursion of time]], and isn't that like something Jesus would do for your salvation? Initially, in the original timeline, Madoka is a full-blown messiah who suffers for Homuhomu. When Homuhomu wished for Time Lord powers to protect Madoka, in other timelines (like the series timeline) she suffers for Madoka, making Madoka gain the power of multiple universes revolving around her and making her think about what she really wants to wish. In the end, Madokami is able to suffer and die for everyone's sins, bearing the eternal torment of the world's despair upon her to prevent witches from happening, and in the new witch-free timeline that she created, Homuhomu protects.



Also, the receptions of almost all new non-''LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}'' anime (the series originally began before ''Madoka'' anyway) anime from Creator/StudioShaft (''LightNovel/GroundControlToPsychoelectricGirl'', ''LightNovel/SasamisanAtGanbaranai'', ''Manga/{{Nisekoi}}'', and ''Anime/MekakuCityActors'') and Creator/GenUrobuchi (''Anime/PsychoPass'', ''Anime/GargantiaOnTheVerdurousPlanet'', and ''Anime/AldnoahZero'') has as of 2014 met much less enthusiastic reception (with some fans calling ''Mekaku City Actors'' and ''Aldnoah'' their respective JumpTheShark moments).

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Also, the receptions of almost all new non-''LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}'' non-''Literature/{{Bakemonogatari}}'' anime (the series originally began before ''Madoka'' anyway) anime from Creator/StudioShaft (''LightNovel/GroundControlToPsychoelectricGirl'', ''LightNovel/SasamisanAtGanbaranai'', (''Literature/GroundControlToPsychoelectricGirl'', ''Literature/SasamisanAtGanbaranai'', ''Manga/{{Nisekoi}}'', and ''Anime/MekakuCityActors'') and Creator/GenUrobuchi (''Anime/PsychoPass'', ''Anime/GargantiaOnTheVerdurousPlanet'', and ''Anime/AldnoahZero'') has as of 2014 met much less enthusiastic reception (with some fans calling ''Mekaku City Actors'' and ''Aldnoah'' their respective JumpTheShark moments).
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* Look at this It would certainly make all the Kyubee and Madoka hate HilariousInHindsight...[[FunnyAneurysmMoment or the opposite]]

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* Look at this It would certainly make all the Kyubee and Madoka hate HilariousInHindsight...[[FunnyAneurysmMoment [[HarsherInHindsight or the opposite]]
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[[WMG:The ''Madoka'' franchise is cursed, like the ''{{Poltergeist}}'' and ''{{Superman}}'' franchises before it.]]

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[[WMG:The ''Madoka'' franchise is cursed, like the ''{{Poltergeist}}'' and ''{{Superman}}'' ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' franchises before it.]]
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If asked about this, she'll answer: [[Machinima/RedVsBlue "I dunno, seemed like fun. I think I went a little nuts there for a while."]]

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If asked about this, she'll answer: [[Machinima/RedVsBlue [[WebAnimation/RedVsBlue "I dunno, seemed like fun. I think I went a little nuts there for a while."]]

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[[WMG: Madoka's being UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} to Urobuchi Gen will result in later Gen series being less KillThemAll.]]

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[[WMG: Madoka's being UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} to Urobuchi Gen will result in later Gen series being less KillThemAll.fatal.]]
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With ''Madoka'', Gen didn't just want to retell the story of ''Myth/{{Faust}}'' [[JustForFun/XMeetsY with]] MagicalGirls, he wanted to smack otakus in the face. He showed how becoming an adolescent superhero would be pretty terrifying when you have to actually fight [[EldritchAbomination Lovecraftian Horrors]] all the time forever. Timid yet good-hearted Madoka is not supposed to actually "be" you, in a sense. She's actually the ideal selfless {{Moe}} MessianicArchetype Goddess we all worship and masturbate on. '''[[ThisLoserIsYou Homura is YOU]]'''; The emotionally stunted Incel monomaniac who's so emotionally dependent upon her pink-haired Moe-ssiah waifu that she'd rather "just run away" back in time from all the suffering around her, rather than accept her new reality, and then covers up her true incompetent self with a fake badass MarySue air, ala Self-Insert FanFic.

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With ''Madoka'', Gen didn't just want to retell the story of ''Myth/{{Faust}}'' [[JustForFun/XMeetsY with]] MagicalGirls, {{Magical Girl}}s, he wanted to smack otakus in the face. He showed how becoming an adolescent superhero would be pretty terrifying when you have to actually fight [[EldritchAbomination Lovecraftian Horrors]] all the time forever. Timid yet good-hearted Madoka is not supposed to actually "be" you, in a sense. She's actually the ideal selfless {{Moe}} MessianicArchetype Goddess we all worship and masturbate on. '''[[ThisLoserIsYou Homura is YOU]]'''; The emotionally stunted Incel monomaniac who's so emotionally dependent upon her pink-haired Moe-ssiah waifu that she'd rather "just run away" back in time from all the suffering around her, rather than accept her new reality, and then covers up her true incompetent self with a fake badass MarySue air, ala Self-Insert FanFic.
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[[spoiler: Was JustForFun/OneOfUs!]] Is the female populace of our community not even safe? The witch was saying phrases like "she don't like fools" and "I'm young so I will not work! I will only live, live, live!" Also notice the form: ITS A COMPUTER MONITOR FROM THE 90's! Poor troper got herself turned into a witch... DAMN you [[ChaoticEvil EVIL]] WHITE RAT!

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[[spoiler: Was JustForFun/OneOfUs!]] Is the female populace of our community not even safe? The witch was saying phrases like "she don't like fools" and "I'm young so I will not work! I will only live, live, live!" Also notice the form: ITS A COMPUTER MONITOR FROM THE 90's! Poor troper got herself turned into a witch... DAMN you [[ChaoticEvil EVIL]] EVIL WHITE RAT!



Unlike schools that regard the Demiurge as a simple monster, Valentinianism thinks of him as more of a misguided LawfulNeutral who is ''obsessed'' with rules and stability. The problem is that his methods of keeping the flawed physical creation together generate plenty of grief and woe fallout for the mortal denizens. The archons, his police force, don't really help the situation. It helps to look at the more severe schools, where the archons torment and harass mortals for their own amusement and edification...and sometimes, their sustenance. While the Demiurge is still [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned]], that ([[BlueAndOrangeMorality somewhat alien]]) benevolence is nonetheless malign for certain denizens. Then again, the Demiurge seems to be more concerned with the physical universe as a whole, and himself and his archons whose eternal dwelling it is, than the self-aware subset.

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Unlike schools that regard the Demiurge as a simple monster, Valentinianism thinks of him as more of a misguided LawfulNeutral lawful neutral who is ''obsessed'' with rules and stability. The problem is that his methods of keeping the flawed physical creation together generate plenty of grief and woe fallout for the mortal denizens. The archons, his police force, don't really help the situation. It helps to look at the more severe schools, where the archons torment and harass mortals for their own amusement and edification...and sometimes, their sustenance. While the Demiurge is still [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned]], that ([[BlueAndOrangeMorality somewhat alien]]) benevolence is nonetheless malign for certain denizens. Then again, the Demiurge seems to be more concerned with the physical universe as a whole, and himself and his archons whose eternal dwelling it is, than the self-aware subset.
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* Sayaka's Soul Gem is on her belly, roughly over her womb/ovaries. Her wish was based on her 'love' for Kyosuke, which [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment could be interpreted as hormonal lust]].

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* Sayaka's Soul Gem is on her belly, roughly over her womb/ovaries. Her wish was based on her 'love' for Kyosuke, which [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment could be interpreted as hormonal lust]].lust.
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Where did Entropy get its name from? The prefix "en-" coupled with of all things, the word "TROPE" [[note]]To be specific, both "entropy" and "trope" came from the same Greek word, tropos, meaning "turning" (towards something)[[/note]]. Kyubey requires making a DealWithTheDevil to sustain the universe. [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife TV Tropes requires ruining your own life to sustain itself.]] Makes sense?

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Where did Entropy get its name from? The prefix "en-" coupled with of all things, the word "TROPE" [[note]]To be specific, both "entropy" and "trope" came from the same Greek word, tropos, meaning "turning" (towards something)[[/note]]. Kyubey requires making a DealWithTheDevil to sustain the universe. [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife [[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife TV Tropes requires ruining your own life to sustain itself.]] Makes sense?
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All that stuff about aliens and entropy is symptomatic of our tendency to justify them with little white lies and HalfTruths whenever we devastate nature or take advantage of our fellow man. It took the form of a race of [[KillerRabbit seemingly]] [[AffablyEvil harmless]] {{RidiculouslyCuteCritter}}s for much the same reason; we all try to convince ourselves we're right, we're just trying to help, and [[RomanticismVersusEnlightenment the destruction of the earth and the human individual is all for the sake of Enlightenment and protecting human civilization from entropy/decay]]. In other words, [[TomatoInTheMirror we are all Kyubey]]. Or rather, we are all his/her/[[PronounTrouble its]] / [[WesternAnimation/FutuRama shkler]] father/mother. [[StarWars Search your feelings, you know it to be true.]]

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All that stuff about aliens and entropy is symptomatic of our tendency to justify them with little white lies and HalfTruths whenever we devastate nature or take advantage of our fellow man. It took the form of a race of [[KillerRabbit seemingly]] [[AffablyEvil harmless]] {{RidiculouslyCuteCritter}}s for much the same reason; we all try to convince ourselves we're right, we're just trying to help, and [[RomanticismVersusEnlightenment the destruction of the earth and the human individual is all for the sake of Enlightenment and protecting human civilization from entropy/decay]]. In other words, [[TomatoInTheMirror we are all Kyubey]]. Or rather, we are all his/her/[[PronounTrouble its]] / [[WesternAnimation/FutuRama shkler]] father/mother. [[StarWars [[Franchise/StarWars Search your feelings, you know it to be true.]]
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Creator/AyaHirano and Music/MichaelJackson are certainly testimonies to the chew-'em-up-and-spit-'em-out nature of the entertainment industry. Also noteworthy is how so many young modern seiyuus and artists (wait for it...) signed the contract because they were fans of ''Anime/SailorMoon'' or other cheerful TV shows, only to discover that they get most of the downsides of celebrity life (TypeCasting, SlaveToPR, ArtistDisillusionment, being virtually [[UnwittingPawn whored out all the time]] by {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s who [[ExecutiveMeddling always desecrate their Magnum Opus]], creepy stalker fans, having to keep their private/romantic lives complete secrets to avoid [[NeverLiveItDown eternal]] damnation by the crazy fans, [[StreisandEffect not even being able to hide their private/romantic lives and avoid said eternal damnation]] due to constant accusations about scandals) with very few of the perks (seiyuus go into idoldom and gravure shots because voice acting actually does not pay too well in Japan, and most idols themselves only get judged by their cover and not their true self).

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Creator/AyaHirano and Music/MichaelJackson are certainly testimonies to the chew-'em-up-and-spit-'em-out nature of the entertainment industry. Also noteworthy is how so many young modern seiyuus and artists (wait for it...) signed the contract because they were fans of ''Anime/SailorMoon'' or other cheerful wholesome "seiso" TV shows, only to discover that they get most of the downsides of celebrity life (TypeCasting, SlaveToPR, ArtistDisillusionment, being virtually [[UnwittingPawn whored out all the time]] by {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s who [[ExecutiveMeddling always desecrate their Magnum Opus]], creepy stalker fans, having to keep their private/romantic lives complete secrets to avoid [[NeverLiveItDown eternal]] damnation by the crazy fans, [[StreisandEffect not even being able to hide their private/romantic lives and avoid said eternal damnation]] due to constant accusations about scandals) with very few of the perks (seiyuus go into idoldom and gravure shots because voice acting actually does not pay too well in Japan, and most idols themselves only get judged by their cover and not their true self).
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* In a [[Anime/PsychoPass parallel to another work of Urobuchi's]], they are basically [[spoiler:The Sibyl System]] if they had become an interstellar civilization. Thought to be a supremely logical supercomputer at first, dedicated to the utilitarian Greater Good, when in fact they are eventually revealed to be a network of supremely hubristic psychopaths.
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** Mami: Might be ''Manga/KamikazeKaitouJeanne'', although one could say she took the "Kamikaze" part a little too literally.

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** Mami: Might be ''Manga/KamikazeKaitouJeanne'', ''Manga/PhantomThiefJeanne'', although one could say she took the "Kamikaze" part a little too literally.
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* TooSoon, man.

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* TooSoon, Too soon, man.
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[[WMG: There will be an AMV of [[Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog "Friends on the Other Side"]].]]

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[[WMG: There will be an AMV of [[Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog [[WesternAnimation/ThePrincessAndTheFrog "Friends on the Other Side"]].]]



* You want a song that fits Kyubey? ''[[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Poor Unfortunate Souls]]''.

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* You want a song that fits Kyubey? ''[[Disney/TheLittleMermaid ''[[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Poor Unfortunate Souls]]''.
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With ''Madoka'', Gen didn't just want to retell the story of ''Myth/{{Faust}}'' [[JustForFun/XMeetsY with]] MagicalGirls, he wanted to smack otakus in the face. He showed how becoming an adolescent superhero would be pretty terrifying when you have to actually fight [[EldritchAbomination Lovecraftian Horrors]] all the time forever. Timid yet good-hearted Madoka is not supposed to actually "be" you, in a sense. She's actually the ideal selfless {{Moe}} MessianicArchetype Goddess we all worship and masturbate on. '''[[ThisLoserIsYou Homura is YOU]]'''; The emotionally stunted monomaniac who's so emotionally dependent upon her pink-haired Moe-ssiah waifu that she'd rather "just run away" back in time from all the suffering around her, rather than accept her new reality, and then covers up her true geeky, incompetent self with a fake badass MarySue air, ala Self-Insert FanFic.

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With ''Madoka'', Gen didn't just want to retell the story of ''Myth/{{Faust}}'' [[JustForFun/XMeetsY with]] MagicalGirls, he wanted to smack otakus in the face. He showed how becoming an adolescent superhero would be pretty terrifying when you have to actually fight [[EldritchAbomination Lovecraftian Horrors]] all the time forever. Timid yet good-hearted Madoka is not supposed to actually "be" you, in a sense. She's actually the ideal selfless {{Moe}} MessianicArchetype Goddess we all worship and masturbate on. '''[[ThisLoserIsYou Homura is YOU]]'''; The emotionally stunted Incel monomaniac who's so emotionally dependent upon her pink-haired Moe-ssiah waifu that she'd rather "just run away" back in time from all the suffering around her, rather than accept her new reality, and then covers up her true geeky, incompetent self with a fake badass MarySue air, ala Self-Insert FanFic.
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[[WMG: The Incubators aren't a race of stoics, they're a race of [[TheSociopath sociopaths]].]]
At least if Kyubey is anything to go onto. [[StrawVulcan Despite claiming to not have emotions]], they clearly have limited emotions in the form of pride and self-righteousness. In terms of sociopathic traits, [[ItsAllAboutMe they care more about themselves than the universe as a whole]], [[LackOfEmpathy don't care for the people they're sacrificing]], [[ConsummateLiar consummate lying]], about the only trait they lack in the spectrum is anything hedonistic or rash. Of course that doesn't mean they're AlwaysChaoticEvil, it's just that they can't get why humans aren't compatible with their own kind of MoralSociopathy-sociopathy only shows up in a small portion of humanity and is usually consigned to high-pressure jobs, while it's the standard for the Incubators. The fact that they're a HiveMind probably helps-empathy by any human measurement isn't exactly useful if you're all inherently connected like someone is to their limbs after all.
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* Here is another song suited for the series: [[spoiler: [[Film/RockyHorrorPictureShow time warp]] ]].

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* Here is another song suited for the series: [[spoiler: [[Film/RockyHorrorPictureShow [[Film/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow time warp]] ]].
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* Sayaka's Soul Gem is on her belly, roughly over her womb/ovaries. Her wish was based on her 'love' for Kyosuke, which [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment could be interpreted as hormonal lust]].

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* Sayaka's Soul Gem is on her belly, roughly over her womb/ovaries. Her wish was based on her 'love' for Kyosuke, which [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment could be interpreted as hormonal lust]].
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Well with all the [[IntellectualPropertyReligion Madokamists]] preaching Madoka as our [[MessianicArchetype Saviour]] we didn't notice that [[FanNickname Homuhomu]] is always there protecting Madoka even if it means bearing the eternal torment of [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya an endless recursion of time]], and isn't that like something Jesus would do for your salvation? Initially, in the original timeline, Madoka is a full-blown messiah who suffers for Homuhomu. When Homuhomu wished for Time Lord powers to protect Madoka, in other timelines (like the series timeline) she suffers for Madoka, making Madoka gain the power of multiple universes revolving around her and making her think about what she really wants to wish. In the end, Madokami is able to suffer and die for everyone's sins, bearing the eternal torment of the world's despair upon her to prevent witches from happening, and in the new witch-free timeline that she created, Homuhomu protects.

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Well with all the [[IntellectualPropertyReligion [[JustForFun/IntellectualPropertyReligion Madokamists]] preaching Madoka as our [[MessianicArchetype Saviour]] we didn't notice that [[FanNickname Homuhomu]] is always there protecting Madoka even if it means bearing the eternal torment of [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya an endless recursion of time]], and isn't that like something Jesus would do for your salvation? Initially, in the original timeline, Madoka is a full-blown messiah who suffers for Homuhomu. When Homuhomu wished for Time Lord powers to protect Madoka, in other timelines (like the series timeline) she suffers for Madoka, making Madoka gain the power of multiple universes revolving around her and making her think about what she really wants to wish. In the end, Madokami is able to suffer and die for everyone's sins, bearing the eternal torment of the world's despair upon her to prevent witches from happening, and in the new witch-free timeline that she created, Homuhomu protects.
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* [[OlderThanTheyThink or you know]], {{Faust}}.

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* [[OlderThanTheyThink or you know]], {{Faust}}.Myth/{{Faust}}.



With ''Madoka'', Gen didn't just want to retell the story of ''{{Faust}}'' [[JustForFun/XMeetsY with]] MagicalGirls, he wanted to smack otakus in the face. He showed how becoming an adolescent superhero would be pretty terrifying when you have to actually fight [[EldritchAbomination Lovecraftian Horrors]] all the time forever. Timid yet good-hearted Madoka is not supposed to actually "be" you, in a sense. She's actually the ideal selfless {{Moe}} MessianicArchetype Goddess we all worship and masturbate on. '''[[ThisLoserIsYou Homura is YOU]]'''; The emotionally stunted monomaniac who's so emotionally dependent upon her pink-haired Moe-ssiah waifu that she'd rather "just run away" back in time from all the suffering around her, rather than accept her new reality, and then covers up her true geeky, incompetent self with a fake badass MarySue air, ala Self-Insert FanFic.

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With ''Madoka'', Gen didn't just want to retell the story of ''{{Faust}}'' ''Myth/{{Faust}}'' [[JustForFun/XMeetsY with]] MagicalGirls, he wanted to smack otakus in the face. He showed how becoming an adolescent superhero would be pretty terrifying when you have to actually fight [[EldritchAbomination Lovecraftian Horrors]] all the time forever. Timid yet good-hearted Madoka is not supposed to actually "be" you, in a sense. She's actually the ideal selfless {{Moe}} MessianicArchetype Goddess we all worship and masturbate on. '''[[ThisLoserIsYou Homura is YOU]]'''; The emotionally stunted monomaniac who's so emotionally dependent upon her pink-haired Moe-ssiah waifu that she'd rather "just run away" back in time from all the suffering around her, rather than accept her new reality, and then covers up her true geeky, incompetent self with a fake badass MarySue air, ala Self-Insert FanFic.
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[[spoiler: Was OneOfUs!]] Is the female populace of our community not even safe? The witch was saying phrases like "she don't like fools" and "I'm young so I will not work! I will only live, live, live!" Also notice the form: ITS A COMPUTER MONITOR FROM THE 90's! Poor troper got herself turned into a witch... DAMN you [[ChaoticEvil EVIL]] WHITE RAT!

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[[spoiler: Was OneOfUs!]] JustForFun/OneOfUs!]] Is the female populace of our community not even safe? The witch was saying phrases like "she don't like fools" and "I'm young so I will not work! I will only live, live, live!" Also notice the form: ITS A COMPUTER MONITOR FROM THE 90's! Poor troper got herself turned into a witch... DAMN you [[ChaoticEvil EVIL]] WHITE RAT!

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