History WMG / MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaOpenOne

* It could be worse... the designation could be "[[GirlsLove GL]]-class" :P

The real Nanoha never recovered from the Gadget Drone incident two years after joining the Bureau and died due to complications soon after starting the rehab course. However, the TSAB high-ups didn't want to lose such a strong Aerial Mage and conspired with Jail Saglietti to (among other things) resurrect Nanoha as an Artificial Mage. This is the reason why Nanoha keeps overworking herself: consciously or subconsciously (she may be not aware of her condition, just like Fate wasn't, and TSAB doctors are instructed to lie to her), she is aware that if she dies, they'll just "[[CloningBlues make another Nanoha]]". This is also the reason why Scaglietti keeps being so smug in prison: he was promised to be bailed out by the ''real'' conspirators, if he keeps his mouth shut at least about Nanoha. However, Hayate Yagami ''did'' find out what TSAB did to her best friend, and has now counter-conspired with Carim Gracia the Saint Church (who seem to be the good guys) to topple the corrupt TSAB leadership and take over Mid-Childa. On a side note, the Takamachi family on Mid-Childa (Nanoha, Fate, and Vivio) is thus made up exclusively of Artificial Mages. Awwww, isn't that cute?

She did this by teleporting Fate and Arf onto the ship, with orders to capture the Seeds. While attempting to complete their mission, the [[LoadBearingBoss ship was destroyed]] (either by self-destruct or as a [[LightNovel/DirtyPair side effect]] of Fate's power), causing the Jewel Seeds to be lost on Earth. The reason this ship was approaching Earth was because of a report from an observation post on a small island off one of the northern continents of the appearence of a powerful linker core in [[TokyoIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse Japan]]. Following standard procedure a retired member of the [=TSAB=] to recruit this potential high powered mage. Due to the family's previously existing connections with the [=TSAB=] (read below), this pickup operation was not given high priority and the reports have since been lost, [[SequelHook likely to turn up]] during a review of case archives following the [=JS=] Incident. This possibly ties into the above theory of the [=TSAB=]'s use of Earth as a [[RetiredBadass retirement]] / [[TraumaInn recuperation]] area. This also explains Nanoha's parent's [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight ready acceptance]] of her life choices.

*** Now that he's gained control over that form, he has decided that what he really wants is to befriend [[NamesTheSame Fate]].

...in an AndManGrewProud way. That explains why nobody could find it. Also: the Saint's Cradle is said to predate the Ancient Belka, meaning that they could have obtained it from Al-Hazard. After the Saint King Unification War, the Cradle was lost but Scaglietti discovered it again... on Mid-Childa, of all places. If the ship ''was'' built on Al-Hazard, it'd would make sense for it to have been programmed to return to it after a certain idle period.

* Easy answer is that [++CHAIN BIND IS A [[RazorFloss FREAKING!!RAZOR!!FLOSS!!!]]++], TSAB formed for utilizing Magical StunGuns (some of them are the class of WaveMotionGun, ''it's necessary'' by the way), [[TechnicalPacifist they don't really need]] CleanCut [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman on human target]].

* Some of the main cast are just as likely of a target. I mean, a main character for four consecutive seasons that's also reaching the [[CompetenceZone magical age of 25 and up]] [[ObsoleteMentor with new cast all around]], things may start looking [[MentorOccupationalHazard pretty grim]] [[HeroicSacrifice for them]]. Unless, of course, the [[OlderAndWiser general trend]] from ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'' continues as they were, then all of the new cast introduced that season are prime targets for StuffedIntoTheFridge

** Read [[http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=37991 ''Betrayers'' from Himura Kiseki]]!
** There a sequel to Betrayers?
*** [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/609273/ Not anytime soon.]]

** Also, Nanoha is known as the White Devil. Now... [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/mahou_sensei_negima/c265/8.html behold the Black Devil]].

This may not be so much a Wild Guess, but after pages like [[http://www.onemanga.com/Magical_Girl_Lyrical_Nanoha_ViVid/6/30/ this]] and [[http://www.onemanga.com/Magical_Girl_Lyrical_Nanoha_ViVid/7/30/ this]] it's almost insultingly obvious that Vivio will take after Nanoha-mama ''a lot''.

[[WMG: ''Nanoha'' takes place in the same world as ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'']]

* To add credence to this theory: who needs FrickinLaserBeams or WaveMotionGun if you can ''teleport your enemy into an oncoming one, from a friendly source or otherwise?''

They both bear an uncanny resemblance to Suzuka's two maids in hair color and style, and Tre has a similar slightly cold personality that Noel does. Granted, Sette is an EmotionlessGirl instead of a {{Dojikko}}, but that may be just one of the "unnecessary elements" Scaglietti removed.

* This really belongs under PoisonOakEpilepticTrees. GrimDark Nanoha = [[BrainBleach DO]] [[CanonDefilement NOT]] WANT.

*** Then why is Earth designated "non-administrated (!) world #97 (!!)", and why are there so few magic uses native to it? EDIT: Oh, any by the way, according to the ''Sound Stage X'' supplemental material (''Guide Book''), the Saint Church was formed after the end of Saint King Unification War (which happened, what, a hundred years ago? Assuming that the modern Mid-Childan calender is just 80 years long in ''Force''...) and worships the members of the Belkan Royal Family (for their role in stopping the war, no less, although that role was limited to just dying like flies and letting the multiverse to get over it already). You would think that if the Saint Church ''were'' derived from Christianity about a century ago it would, like, you know... mention {{Jesus}} somewhere?

** Likely confirmed, in ''NanohaInnocent'' where {{mana}} doesn't exist, she is trained in the family martial arts. She has enough chi to throw a spoon at a cup and leave a smoking hole; she couldn't do this without magic in the main series. It would seem chi use is a case of MutuallyExclusiveMagic like in ''Franchise/{{Negima}}''.

* @/AceOfScarabs has considered using that to tie the Nanohaverse to the [[Anime/GaoGaiGar GGG-verse]] for the purposes of either budget crossover-fic, or to have an excuse to put them in a mecha-filled ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' FanGame. To expand on this: a nearly-dead Precia is picked up by a major Zonderian unit and converted, her 'wish' fulfilled by converting both her and the late Alicia into Zonders. As G-Stones, Element Z0, and J-Jewels would be considered pretty powerful Lost Logia in a way, things will unfold, and before you know it, Nanoha and Fate are sent over to the universe next door to investigate, arriving just in time to see Anime/GaoGaiGar dispose of a Zonder mecha.

** Likely confirmed, in ''NanohaInnocent'' where {{mana}} doesn't exist, she is trained in the family martial arts. She has enough chi to throw a spoon at a cup and leave a smoking hole; she couldn't do this without magic in the main series. It would seem chi use is a case of MutuallyExclusiveMagic like in ''{{Negima}}''.

* Some of the main cast are just as likely of a target. I mean, a main character for four consecutive seasons that's also reaching the [[CompetenceZone magical age of 25 and up]] [[ObsoleteMentor with new cast all around]], things may start looking [[MentorOccupationalHazard pretty]] [[ObiWan grim]] [[HeroicSacrifice for them]]. Unless, of course, the [[OlderAndWiser general trend]] from ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'' continues as they were, then all of the new cast introduced that season are prime targets for StuffedIntoTheFridge

[[WMG: ''Nanoha'' takes place in the same world as ''MahouSenseiNegima'']]

** More or less confirmed ever since [[AudioAdaptation the third Sound Stage]] of ''[=StrikerS=]''. The Fansubbers made a slight mistake: Agito didn't call herself the "Genius of the Burning Flames" when she first appeared, she called herself the "[[FlamingSword Sword Spirit of the Burning Flames]]". It's not a moniker she fashioned for herself either, it's the name she's referred to by the scientists who were experimenting on her, making it the closest thing she has to a true name ("Agito" was given to her by Lutecia). She even mentioned that, based on that name, her original owner is most likely a powerful sword-wielder who can use fire. Finally, she mentions that "strangely, (her) heart feels warm" whenever she thinks of her original owner, which is the exact words Signum said when they finally performed a Unison ([[IronicEcho and probably the reason why she started crying]]). Of course, this opens up more questions: Is Signum really Agito's master (which makes one boggle at just how powerful the first Reinforce must be to create a program that could form her own Unison Device), or, as a lot of people are thinking, is the Signum we know a perfect copy of an earlier human Signum who was the true master of Agito? Hopefully, ''Manga/ViVid'', ''Force'' or another installment will reveal more about this.

Masaki Tsuzuki wanted to go DarkerAndEdgier after ''[=StrikerS=]'' all along, but he wasn't sure how it'll be received, so he and Himura Kiseki published the first chapter as a doujin with Himura taking all credit. Either because the [[UnpleasableFanbase fandom wasn't completely happy]] or due to ExecutiveMeddling, the concept was put on the shelf, that's why "episode 2 is NOT coming soon". Instead, Tsuzuki went for a DarkerAndEdgier, only less so, route with ''Force'', simultaneously buying off fans with the cutesy loli moe ''Manga/ViVid''. Once those are done, though, he and Himura may still return to ''[=BetrayerS=]'' storyline.

** Lio, a civilian student at the Sankt Hilde school, has an apparently Belkan-style device in ''Manga/ViVid''. Then again, we don't know much about her family.

* Alternatively, Ix just over-estimated her sleep time. Considering how her comatose form has appeared in ''Manga/ViVid'', this seems likely.

[[WMG: During ''Manga/ViVid'', Nanoha has a limiter on her magic]]

In the Sound Stage; we have Subaru telling Ixpellia that Vivio ''is'' the Saint Kaiser reborn; also in ''Manga/ViVid'' Nove refers to Vivio as an Ancient King who can live in peace in this age. However, Ingvalt herself denies that Vivio is the Saint King; nor is she "an extention of the Emperor, merely the inheritor of his memories." Vivio's friends stumble when describing Vivio's relationship with the Saint Kaiser; compromising by calling her an "ancestor."

* Hence her being likely enforced vacation in ''Manga/ViVid''. My guess is that most of the older Command Staff over 30 in the administration are burned out mages. Oh, they can do something big every now and then, but then the {{mana}} just doesn't come out for a few years. Like Lindy's energy wing thing.
* In Part 20 of ''AudioPlay/{{StrikerS Sound Stage|X}} 4'', Shamal suggests that Nanoha take a year or two off of magic, which might be part of the reason why she's on leave and working as a civil servant in ''Manga/ViVid''.

[[WMG: Vivio's OlderAlterEgo in ''Manga/ViVid'' is related to her Sankt Kaiser self; and she'll eventually have to seal it.]]
Regardless of her and Nanoha saying it's perfectly fine in ''Manga/ViVid'', it doesn't look like she has any involvement in ''Force''. Keep in mind that shapeshifting in the Nanoha-verse is considered very costly, {{mana}}-wise, yet Vivio was able to do it effortlessly.
* It's also possible that she won't have any involvement in Force because 1)She's still in school; even if she's most likely going to be drawn into the problems in ''Manga/ViVid'', Nanoha probably wants her to complete her education before joining the TSAB, and/or 2)The writers don't want to write anything that could contradict or spoil events in [=ViVid=] (excluding Vivio surviving).

[[WMG:Subaru and Teana are living together in ''Manga/ViVid'']]

* Well, according to the dialogue in SSX, it sounds like Tea doesn't usually stay with Subaru on Mid; she and Runessa had booked into a hotel, initially. But maybe things have [[RelationshipUpgrade changed]] between then and ''Manga/ViVid''. It's a [[{{Squee}} nice]] thought, anyway...

** The Einhart arc seems to be something of a prologue to the main story of ''Manga/ViVid'', so it's possible that, like what happened with [[spoiler:Ginga and Vivio]] in ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'', Einhart will somehow be controlled by the villains and Vivio will have to defeat her while fighting for her life.

** Actually, the main suspect in this troper's eyes right now is Lily Strosek, simply because she was referred as "Strosek-[[FourIsDeath 4th]]" in the very first chapter. {{MacGuffin Girl}}s with "Four" in their names just [[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam don't tend to live long]]...

[[WMG: Nanoha's family are all in the {{Ninja}} Bodyguarding business, just like in ''[[TriangleHeart3SweetSongsForever Triangle Heart]]'', but she was born with a defect leaving her unable to use Chi.]]

In the second season, they appeared in a PhantomZone that the Book of Darkness created. Supposedly, only mages and magical creatures appear in those. In [[TriangleHeart3SweetSongsForever another universe]], Alisa Bannings was an {{Expy}} named Alisa Lowell who was a ghost. Suzuka doesn't exist in the ''Triangle Heart'' universe, but her family does, and they have vaguely mystical origins, a possible vampire, and RobotGirl {{Meido}}. What are they here....?

Like her sister in ''TriangleHeart3'', Suzuka is a vampire. She shared her blood with Alisa, giving her incredible strength. She did this to prevent her death; appropriately it was whatever killed [[TriangleHeart3 Alisa Lowell.]]

** Actually, the main suspect in this troper's eyes right now is Lily Strosek, simply because she was referred as "Strosek-[[FourIsDeath 4th]]" in the very first chapter. {{MacGuffin Girl}}s with "Four" in their names just [[ZetaGundam don't tend to live long]]...

* That will turn Nanoha into ''MG [[GundamSEED Strike Freedom]]''.

The kind of people who would use the Book of Darkness aren't very nice; powerful, controlling, and not very moral. Even if they weren't any of these things, the temptation with someone not only manifestly good-looking but also completely obediant is obviously there. Vita managed to escape this, or at least suffer considerably less of it, because of her ''apparent'' age. @/({{Night}} demands he be credited in the inevitable trashy, or maybe even not so trashy, FanFic.) Shamal and Signum are now breathing easier, but Zafira stays wolfy to keep the idea further from Hayate's mind.

* Interestingly enough, there's a brief scene in Episode 3 of ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'' that touches on this. After Nanoha and Fate change into their brown uniforms, Hayate points out that for the first time since middle school, all three are in the same uniform, but suggests that Nanoha will wear her white instructor uniform while training the recruits. In Force, all three are once again in the same unit, but Nanoha and Fate are still wearing their respective white and black uniforms (it's hard to tell about Hayate, but she might be wearing a blue Navy uniform). Perhaps the three of them don't especially care for the color.