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[[WMG: The series' trademark MindScrew will be brought UpToEleven...]]

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[[WMG: The series' trademark MindScrew will be brought UpToEleven...cranked up...]]



** His mode will be the hardest of [[Main/UpToEleven ALL EVER MADE]] in Kingdom Hearts history. Double Points for RatedMForManly.

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** His mode will be the hardest of [[Main/UpToEleven ALL EVER MADE]] MADE in Kingdom Hearts history. Double Points for RatedMForManly.



[[WMG: If Disney is very ready enough to make their own ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate'' that's the sequel to Kingdom Hearts III, then it would be [[WesternAnimation/GravityFalls the Weirdmageddon Trilogy]], except taken UpToEleven]]

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[[WMG: If Disney is very ready enough to make their own ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate'' that's the sequel to Kingdom Hearts III, then it would be [[WesternAnimation/GravityFalls the Weirdmageddon Trilogy]], except taken UpToEleven]]cranked up]]
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[[WMG: {{Music/Nightwish}}'s Tuomas Holopainen will end up writing a song for the game.]]

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[[WMG: {{Music/Nightwish}}'s {{Music/Nightwish|Band}}'s Tuomas Holopainen will end up writing a song for the game.]]
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* [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Freya]] - Retool her into any world with talking animals, maybe one based on WesternAnimation/RobinHood as a guest party member. Or make her a member of the royal guard that Goofy is captain of.

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* [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Freya]] - Retool her into any world with talking animals, maybe one based on WesternAnimation/RobinHood WesternAnimation/{{Robin Hood|1973}} as a guest party member. Or make her a member of the royal guard that Goofy is captain of.



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*** A clause in Robin Williams' will preventing the use of his physical or vocal likeness makes it unlikely that Agrabah will be returning, or at least Genie won't be, unless they don't give him a voice.

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*** A clause in Robin Williams' Creator/RobinWilliams' will preventing the use of his physical or vocal likeness makes it unlikely that Agrabah will be returning, or at least Genie won't be, unless they don't give him a voice.
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[[WMG:If ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut'' could be adapted into future ''Kingdom Hearts'' games, it will be a [[AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent something completely different]] world]]

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[[WMG:If ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut'' could be adapted into future ''Kingdom Hearts'' games, it will be a [[AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent something completely different]] different world]]
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*** '''Addendum''': This WMG has not been Jossed by the [=KH4=] Reveal Trailer. I propose that the Strelitzia Sora meets in Quadratum is the original/real Strelitzia, who wound up there after Darkness killed her.
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* Because of Square-Enix taking Nomura away from ''Final Fantasy Versus XIII'', turning it into ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'', so Nomura could focus on ''Kingdom Hearts'', Nomura was left bitter. And he deliberately [[DamselScrappy ruined]] Kairi's character so people would get sick of Kingdom Hearts, and set up the Foretellers to [[FaceHeelTurn turn Sora]] into the BigBad, [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist the Master of Masters]].

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* Because of Square-Enix taking Nomura away from ''Final Fantasy Versus XIII'', turning it into ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'', so Nomura could focus on ''Kingdom Hearts'', Nomura was left bitter. And he deliberately [[DamselScrappy ruined]] Kairi's character so people would get sick of Kingdom Hearts, and set up the Foretellers to [[FaceHeelTurn turn Sora]] into the BigBad, [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist the Master of Masters]]. And Verum Rex would be the culmination of Nomura's plan.
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* Because of Square-Enix taking Nomura away from ''Final Fantasy Versus XIII'', turning it into ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'', so Nomura could focus on ''Kingdom Hearts'', Nomura was left bitter. And he deliberately ruined Kairi's character so people would get sick of Kingdom Hearts, and made Yozora in Re:Mind so people would want Verum Rex.

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* Because of Square-Enix taking Nomura away from ''Final Fantasy Versus XIII'', turning it into ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'', so Nomura could focus on ''Kingdom Hearts'', Nomura was left bitter. And he deliberately ruined [[DamselScrappy ruined]] Kairi's character so people would get sick of Kingdom Hearts, and made Yozora in Re:Mind so people would want Verum Rex.
set up the Foretellers to [[FaceHeelTurn turn Sora]] into the BigBad, [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist the Master of Masters]].
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[[WMG: Obligatory conspiracy theory: Verum Rex would be a FranchiseKiller.]]
* Because of Square-Enix taking Nomura away from ''Final Fantasy Versus XIII'', turning it into ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'', so Nomura could focus on ''Kingdom Hearts'', Nomura was left bitter. And he deliberately ruined Kairi's character so people would get sick of Kingdom Hearts, and made Yozora in Re:Mind so people would want Verum Rex.
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Given that Haley Joel Osment voices both characters, it'd be easy to have Vanitas make cameos. Vanitas seemed to take a liking to being "shadow that Sora casts" and may become the successor to Sora's Rage Form. This also would serve to give fans the chance to officially play as Vanitas through the form system. Possible plot points:

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Given that Haley Joel Osment voices and Miyu Irino voice both characters, it'd be easy to have Vanitas make cameos. Vanitas seemed to take a liking to being "shadow that Sora casts" and may become the successor to Sora's Rage Form. This also would serve to give fans the chance to officially play as Vanitas through the form system. Possible plot points:

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Given that Haley Joel Osment voices both characters, it'll be easy to have Vanitas make cameos. Vanitas seemed to take a liking to being "shadow that Sora casts" and may become the successor to Sora's Rage Form. Given that Sora may have regrets over failing his Mark of Mastery exam and being weakened by Xehanort, Vanitas has a prime opportunity to offer Sora the chance to become even more powerful through his powers. This also would serve to give fans the chance to officially play as Vanitas through the form system. It would also serve to give Sora a potential fall from grace and redemption similar to Riku & Terra.

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Given that Haley Joel Osment voices both characters, it'll it'd be easy to have Vanitas make cameos. Vanitas seemed to take a liking to being "shadow that Sora casts" and may become the successor to Sora's Rage Form. Given that Sora may have regrets over failing his Mark of Mastery exam and being weakened by Xehanort, Vanitas has a prime opportunity to offer Sora the chance to become even more powerful through his powers. This also would serve to give fans the chance to officially play as Vanitas through the form system. Possible plot points:
* Now that Ventus had his own darkness extracted from his heart, it's likely that Vanitas would see Sora as a suitable host.
* Given that Sora may have regrets over failing his Mark of Mastery exam and being weakened by Xehanort, Vanitas has a prime opportunity to offer Sora the chance to become even more powerful through his powers.
It would also serve as a good aesop to not let your resentments overpower you.
* Vanitas would
serve to give Sora a potential fall from grace and redemption similar to Riku & Terra.
Terra and act as a contrast to Sora's bright and cheery personality.
* Vanitas would undergo new character development and Sora learns to make peace with him, and Sora learns to master his darkness -- much like Riku did -- and becomes an even wiser keyblade master than he could have imagined. This also lets Vanitas to Sora be like Ansem was to Riku.
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[[WMG: Vanitas saying that he is the shadow Sora casts means he will return through Sora's at some point.]]
Given that Haley Joel Osment voices both characters, it'll be easy to have Vanitas make cameos. Vanitas seemed to take a liking to being "shadow that Sora casts" and may become the successor to Sora's Rage Form. Given that Sora may have regrets over failing his Mark of Mastery exam and being weakened by Xehanort, Vanitas has a prime opportunity to offer Sora the chance to become even more powerful through his powers. This also would serve to give fans the chance to officially play as Vanitas through the form system.

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[[WMG: Vanitas saying that he is the shadow Sora casts means he will return through Sora's Sora at some point.]]
Given that Haley Joel Osment voices both characters, it'll be easy to have Vanitas make cameos. Vanitas seemed to take a liking to being "shadow that Sora casts" and may become the successor to Sora's Rage Form. Given that Sora may have regrets over failing his Mark of Mastery exam and being weakened by Xehanort, Vanitas has a prime opportunity to offer Sora the chance to become even more powerful through his powers. This also would serve to give fans the chance to officially play as Vanitas through the form system.
system. It would also serve to give Sora a potential fall from grace and redemption similar to Riku & Terra.

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[[WMG: Vanitas saying that he is the shadow Sora casts means he will return through Sora's at some point.]]
Given that Haley Joel Osment voices both characters, it'll be easy to have Vanitas make cameos. Vanitas seemed to take a liking to being "shadow that Sora casts" and may become the successor to Sora's Rage Form. Given that Sora may have regrets over failing his Mark of Mastery exam and being weakened by Xehanort, Vanitas has a prime opportunity to offer Sora the chance to become even more powerful through his powers. This also would serve to give fans the chance to officially play as Vanitas through the form system.
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*** A clause in [[AuthorExistenceFailure Robin Williams' will]] preventing the use of his physical or vocal likeness makes it unlikely that Agrabah will be returning, or at least Genie won't be, unless they don't give him a voice.

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* Has someone been [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime watching]] Series/DoctorWho? (Actually, though, that's a pretty feasible theory.)

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* Has someone been [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime watching]] Series/DoctorWho? (Actually, though, that's a pretty feasible theory.)



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In the [[https://www.mangareader.net/kingdom-hearts/25/6 manga]], Hades comments to himself how he could use the Keyblade to free the Titans from "maximum confinement" (Tarterus). What we fought in One were just echoes; shadows that slipped through the cracks in the seal. It may be tied to the Underdrome that he tricked Sora into [[NiceJobBreakingItHero unsealing]] in Two.

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In the [[https://www.mangareader.net/kingdom-hearts/25/6 manga]], manga, Hades comments to himself how he could use the Keyblade to free the Titans from "maximum confinement" (Tarterus). What we fought in One were just echoes; shadows that slipped through the cracks in the seal. It may be tied to the Underdrome that he tricked Sora into [[NiceJobBreakingItHero unsealing]] in Two.



[[folder: A possible Verum Rex spin-off (spoilers)]]

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Master Xehanort [[Creator/ChikaoOhtsuka voice]] [[Creator/LeonardNimoy actors]] [[AuthorExistenceFailure passed away]], which leads to where Master Xehanort possesses Aqua. Not with a fraction of his heart, but with his full heart so that he could gain full control of Aqua and leave her with very little sense of self. This would write his original voices out of the story and would explain Aqua's possession (Instant grey/silver hair and yellow eyes) that is very similar to Terra's at the end of ''Birth by Sleep''. Therefore giving him a powerful new vessel and the knowledge to find Ven and make him the potential thirteenth vessel.

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Master Xehanort [[Creator/ChikaoOhtsuka voice]] [[Creator/LeonardNimoy actors]] [[AuthorExistenceFailure passed away]], away, which leads to where Master Xehanort possesses Aqua. Not with a fraction of his heart, but with his full heart so that he could gain full control of Aqua and leave her with very little sense of self. This would write his original voices out of the story and would explain Aqua's possession (Instant grey/silver hair and yellow eyes) that is very similar to Terra's at the end of ''Birth by Sleep''. Therefore giving him a powerful new vessel and the knowledge to find Ven and make him the potential thirteenth vessel.
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* Seemingly jossed by Melody of Memory, where it’s explained that Yozora’s world, Quadratum, is the world of unreality.
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* [[spoiler: Jossed, but they’re still technically in the game, as the ending of ''X'' reveals the player character wound up becoming ''Xehanort''.]]
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* Confirmed. The Switch was one of four consoles that ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsMelodyOfMemory'' was released on, the other four being the PS4, the Xbox One, and later the PC.

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* Confirmed. The Switch was one of four consoles that ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsMelodyOfMemory'' was released on, the other four being the PS4, [=PS4=], the Xbox One, and later the PC.
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* If we take time travel into account, then that could just as easily be the ''real'' Riku, snatched from before he let Ansem possess him and long before his resulting HeelFaceTurn. In addition, either of these theories would explain the "fake" Riku you encounter in the first game if you wait to complete Monstro until after you finished Hollow Bastion. [[CrazyAwesome And they say Nomura doesn't plan these things in advance...]]

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* If we take time travel into account, then that could just as easily be the ''real'' Riku, snatched from before he let Ansem possess him and long before his resulting HeelFaceTurn. In addition, either of these theories would explain the "fake" Riku you encounter in the first game if you wait to complete Monstro until after you finished Hollow Bastion. [[CrazyAwesome [[CrazyPrepared And they say Nomura doesn't plan these things in advance...]]
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[[RealityEnsues Or maybe not. She was about four after all.]]

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** The four friends are Ephemer, Elrena, Lauriam, and Ventus, and given that she is the only character who we don’t see emerging from their life raft, and that she doesn’t seem to remember her past, it can be reasonably assumed that something went wrong in transit (likely the same problem that caused Ventus to remain unconscious when he landed in the Keyblade Graveyard), causing her to lose her memories.
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* Jossed, though given what we now know about what happened to the player character from ''X'', only on a technicality.

[[WMG: Kairi will be the playable character during the tutorial.]]
Akin to how Roxas was the main character of the prologue in II. Sora may be hit by BagOfSpilling, but he's still hardly a rookie at this point, so it would be kinda silly to treat him like one. Kairi, however, is still a newbie when it comes to the Keyblade, so playing as her wouldn't stretch suspension of disbelief.



[[WMG: Kairi will be the playable character during the tutorial.]]
Akin to how Roxas was the main character of the prologue in II. Sora may be hit by BagOfSpilling, but he's still hardly a rookie at this point, so it would be kinda silly to treat him like one. Kairi, however, is still a newbie when it comes to the Keyblade, so playing as her wouldn't stretch suspension of disbelief.
* Jossed.
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* The "rescue" will involve a WorldOfCardboardSpeech where Riku leads Aqua to understanding that DarkIsNotEvil thus leading to a case of BadPowersGoodPeople. Hey, if the series is going to be serious about this BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil thing, then it is a logical step.

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* The "rescue" will involve a WorldOfCardboardSpeech speech where Riku leads Aqua to understanding that DarkIsNotEvil thus leading to a case of BadPowersGoodPeople. Hey, if the series is going to be serious about this BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil thing, then it is a logical step.

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* Data-Strelitzia.
** In the ''Union χ'' scene "Aftermath" Lauriam had a vision of Strelitzia after his battle with Maleficent, which soon saw her replaced by a feminine blonde in a white hood, speaking his name before vanishing. Later, in "Luxu and Darkness" Luxu is seen placing someone he calls "the true Dandelion" in one of the lifeboats, wrapped in white — not unlike Ventus after Master Xehanort created Vanitas. Later still, in "You Saw Her?!?" Elrena's Chirithy mentions seeing a hooded girl in white who looked "an awful lot like" Strelitzia, following a man in a black coat, and Brain later theorizes that, in addition to Daybreak Town being backed up as data, so too would the data on the Keyblade wielders that lived there. Furthermore, in the journal we know to belong to Subject X, it wasn't Ansem The Wise that removed her from where she was kept, but a man with an eyepatch. Who fits that description again? And what was revealed about that person in [=KH3=]'s ending?



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* Confirmed. The Switch was one of four consoles that ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsMelodyOfMemory'' was released on, the other four being the PS4, the Xbox One, and later the PC.
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[[WMG: Replica Riku is one of Xehanort's darknesses.]]

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[[WMG: Xehanort will get to Ven before the heroes do]]

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[[WMG: [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Zidane Tribal]] will be one of the thirteen darknesses.]]

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[[WMG: [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Kuja]] will be one of the thirteen darknesses.]]

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[[WMG: No Heart is one of the thirteen darknesses and is a Xemnas possessed Terra.]]

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[[WMG: Alternatively No Heart is the sixth Foreteller and is secretly possessing Xehanort's Keyblade.]]

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[[WMG: Alternatively No Heart is the the Foretellers' master '''and''' [[HijackedByGanon Maleficent.]]]]

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[[WMG: [[VideoGame/{{Spectrobes}} Krux]] is one of the Thirteen.]]

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[[WMG: Garland is one of the vessels.]]

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[[WMG: Xehanort has more than Thirteen Darknesses.]]

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[[WMG: The 13 Seekers of Darkness cannot die, because loophole abuse will occur for the rules of time travel]]

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[[WMG: The people in Sora are kinda a foil to the new Organization 13]]

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[[WMG: Steve Rogers is one of the Thirteen]]

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[[WMG: [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI Terra]] is one of Xehanort's vessels.]]

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[[WMG: The Foretellers are part of Organization XIII-2]]

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*** Plus, while Alex Hirsch may not like the franchise himself, I doubt that he would refuse it's inclusion based on his personal views on the series. ''Kingdom Hearts'' is clearly beloved by a lot of people and to deny them a world based on a cartoon that people adore because of his opinions seems out of character for him.

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*** Plus, while Alex Hirsch may not like the franchise himself, I doubt that he would refuse it's its inclusion based on his personal views on the series. ''Kingdom Hearts'' is clearly beloved by a lot of people and to deny them a world based on a cartoon that people adore because of his opinions seems out of character for him.

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* They do have a brief interaction with each other in ''Re:Mind'' during the fight against the Replica Xehanorts, and both are friendly towards and compliment each other.
-->'''Ventus''': Roxas, was it? You're pretty good!
-->'''Roxas''': Yeah, well... You're not too bad yourself.
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* Confirmed with VideoGame/KingdomHeartsMelodyOfMemory
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* Perhaps Elsa's fear of herself and love for her family has made her heart equally light and dark (similar to how Ven started out) and this causes Xehanort to target her as one of his many back up plans.

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* Perhaps Elsa's fear of herself and love for her family has made her heart equally light and dark (similar to how Ven started out) and this causes Xehanort to target her as one of his many back up plans.

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