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** It's a mystery how he managed to grow so tall and muscular, and his feet so big, without the aid of hormones. [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/003/007/020/ He was manly even in high school.]]
** Also true for Yukari, who isn't a strong as Sora, but stronger than she looks, because she's a man.
** Also true for Yukari, who isn't a strong as Sora, but stronger than she looks, because she's a man.
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** Must get it from her, er, ''[[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/002/006/023/ father]]'', heh.
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** And Shion, if she's a he.
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* GirlOnGirlIsHot: Kaoru [[spoiler: attempts to rape Shion, but Shion breaks out of Kaoru's hold and starts molesting her.]] [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/008/001/026/ And, yeah.]]
** Kaoru was getting into it too. [[spoiler: She could have broken out earlier, she only chose to when somebody came in. [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/008/003/023/ Especially when you consider how strong she can punch.]]]]
*** [[spoiler: Then again, [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/001/005/027/ Shion's got a strong throwing arm]][[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/009/003/015/ and hitting arm (for a girl....), so she's probably technically more skilled,]] [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/008/001/009/ and generally smarter.]] [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment Also she might be a guy.]]]]
** Kaoru was getting into it too. [[spoiler: She could have broken out earlier, she only chose to when somebody came in. [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/008/003/023/ Especially when you consider how strong she can punch.]]]]
*** [[spoiler: Then again, [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/001/005/027/ Shion's got a strong throwing arm]][[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/009/003/015/ and hitting arm (for a girl....), so she's probably technically more skilled,]] [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/008/001/009/ and generally smarter.]] [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment Also she might be a guy.]]]]
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* GuyOnGuyIsHot: Averted by Asoaka, who is disgusted when she thinks she sees Masahiko and Tatsuya kissing.
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* GuyOnGuyIsHot: Averted by Inverted with Asoaka, who is disgusted when she thinks she sees Masahiko and Tatsuya kissing.
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** Not really. [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/010/007/018/ In Volume 10, Yukari refers to her as a "she", just after she's born.]] I doubt that they of all people would force a baby boy to be assigned to a different gender, I guess it's possible since they're a reverse couple.
*** It may just be a [[TranslationConvention translation convention.]] It's possible in Japanese to speak about someone in the third person without ever revealing their gender. The scanlaters may have just found it too awkward in English and just defaulted it to her chosen gender.
**** The raw clearly does not refer to gender. For example, "kono" is used before face, and means "this" not "her".
*** It may just be a [[TranslationConvention translation convention.]] It's possible in Japanese to speak about someone in the third person without ever revealing their gender. The scanlaters may have just found it too awkward in English and just defaulted it to her chosen gender.
**** The raw clearly does not refer to gender. For example, "kono" is used before face, and means "this" not "her".
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** [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/005/003/007/ Susumu's jealous that Sora has periods and she doesn't]][[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/008/005/009/ , but looks so manly that she passes better, er, "crossdressing".]]
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Not examples of the trope.
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Not examples of the trope.
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** Almost Sora, [[{{Hunk}} but he doesn't exactly come off as a Bishonen]].
** [[LongHairedPrettyBoy Shion too]], [[DudeLooksLikeALady assuming she really ISN'T a boy]].
** Except Kaoru, and Tatsumi, and Saki for that matter.
** [[LongHairedPrettyBoy Shion too]], [[DudeLooksLikeALady assuming she really ISN'T a boy]].
** Except Kaoru, and Tatsumi, and Saki for that matter.
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* IfItsYouItsOkay: Played with. [[{{Yakuza}} Tatsumi]] falls in love with a [[DraggedIntoDrag forcibly crossdressing]] Masahiko and doesn't mind when he finds out that "[[AttractiveBentGender Masami]]" is biologically male, but gives up on his love after Masahiko explains that he isn't gay or {{Transgender}}. However, [[IncompatibleOrientation it's implied he might still have feelings for Masahiko]].
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By the mangaka Tsukasa Hojo, {{Family Compo}} is a SliceOfLife manga that, perhaps, has a more realistic than average depiction of transsexuality, and at the same time has a remarkably positive tone with tremendous emotional poignancy.
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By the mangaka Tsukasa Hojo, {{Family Compo}} ''{{Family Compo}}'' is a SliceOfLife manga that, perhaps, has is a more realistic than average depiction of transsexuality, and at the same time has a remarkably positive tone with tremendous emotional poignancy.
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* BerserkButton: Don't screw up Sora's work. And [[RedundantDepartmentOfRedundancy imply that he's a]] [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/010/004/011/ woman.]] And, in turn, talk about [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/004/004/007/ the beach.]]
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* BerserkButton: Don't screw up Sora's work. And [[RedundantDepartmentOfRedundancy [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment imply that he's a]] [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/010/004/011/ woman.]] And, in turn, talk about [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/004/004/007/ the beach.]]
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*** [[spoiler: Then again, [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/001/005/027/ Shion's got a strong throwing arm]][[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/009/003/015/ and hitting arm (for a girl....), so she's probably technically more skilled,]] [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/008/001/009/ and generally smarter.]] [[RedundantDepartmentOfRedundancy Also she might be a guy.]]]]
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*** [[spoiler: Then again, [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/001/005/027/ Shion's got a strong throwing arm]][[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/009/003/015/ and hitting arm (for a girl....), so she's probably technically more skilled,]] [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/008/001/009/ and generally smarter.]] [[RedundantDepartmentOfRedundancy [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment Also she might be a guy.]]]]
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* DroppedABridgetOnHim: Yukari and Sora's assistants on Masahiko.
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* Flanderization: Tatsumi becomes a less and less serious character, despite attempting to rape and enslave "Masami".
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* Flanderization: {{Flanderization}}: Tatsumi becomes a less and less serious character, despite attempting to rape and enslave "Masami".
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* YamatoNadeshiko: Yukari
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* YamatoNadeshiko: YukariInvoked by Yukari.
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**** The raw clearly does not refer to gender. For example, "kono" is used before face, and means "this" not "her".
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* {{Pettanko}}: Masahiko notes that Kaoru has small breasts.
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* [[spoiler: [[BastardBastard Bast]][[HeroicBastard ard]]: Saki doesn't know who Kaoru's father really is, and, despite telling her this while she was young, in the end she tells Kaoru that Tatsumi really is her father, after Tatsumi pays Saki to do so.]]
** [[spoiler: Kaoru harbors deep {{Angst}} against her mother for conning Tatsumi for child support though he's not her real father, to the point of becoming a FemaleMisogynist and wanting to be a boy just to be less like her mother. However, when her mother tells, or really lies to her, that Tatsumi really is her father, Kaoru is infuriated and nearly attacks her.]]
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* [[CastFullOfGay Cast Full Of]] [[{{Crossdresser}} Crossdressers]]: ''Everyone'' wears outfits of both genders at one point or another.
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** [[spoiler: HiddenDepths: Revealed on the 65th day, where, despite all of her manipulation, she genuinely cares about Tatsumi and the happiness of her child; she copes with this by "being the villain".]]
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* [[CastFullOfGay Cast Full Of]] [[{{Crossdresser}} Crossdressers]]: ''Everyone'' wears outfits of both genders at one point or another.
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* MostWritersAreWriters: Sora is a Manga Artist
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The manga just reeks of TheNineties Japan, the most obvious indicators being the clothing and the lack of DVDs.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The manga just reeks of TheNineties Japan, the most obvious indicators being the clothing and the lack of DVDs.[=DVDs=].
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* DrivesLikeCrazy: Much like [[AzumangaDaioh another Yukari]], Yukari Wakanae. She hasn't been behind the wheel in several years
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* DrivesLikeCrazy: Much like [[AzumangaDaioh [[Manga/AzumangaDaioh another Yukari]], Yukari Wakanae. She hasn't been behind the wheel in several years
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* BlackComedyRape: The film club gets raped by the transvestites at a bath.
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* RapeAsComedy: The film club gets raped by the transvestites at a bath.
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* OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent: Masahiko, though technically it's college
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* OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent: Masahiko, though technically it's collegecollege.
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* Pettanko: Masahiko notes that Kaoru has small breasts.
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* Pettanko: {{Pettanko}}: Masahiko notes that Kaoru has small breasts.
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* RecursiveCrossdressing: Masahiko asks Sora and Yukari to come to his college entrance ceremony dressed as "what they really are". He swiftly regrets this, as they look so awkward that everyone assumes they're crossdressers.
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* BabyGotBack: [[http://www.mangareader.net/1658-52777-20/family-compo/chapter-11.html Sora]]
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* KissingCousins: Masahiko and Shion, though Masahiko mentioned he wanted them to be LikeBrotherAndSister so it can come off as a twisted version of BrotherSisterIncest.
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* KissingCousins: Masahiko and Shion, though Shion. However multiple times Masahiko has mentioned he wanted them to be LikeBrotherAndSister so LikeBrotherAndSister, he's constantly referred to as Shion's brother, and Shion's parents do act as his parents.. So it can come off as a twisted version of BrotherSisterIncest.seems like adopted BrotherSisterIncest.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The manga just reeks of TheNineties Japan, the most obvious indicators being the clothing and the lack of DVDs.
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* MisterSeahorse: Sora sees himself as a man, but is technically Shion's mother. [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/010/007/010/ He initially refused, because men don’t give birth (and also a thing about his job)]], but agreed when he saw how saddened Yusaki was by her inability to conceive. [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/010/007/004/ His pride is greatly damaged when he's reminded of this.]]
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* MisterSeahorse: Sora sees himself as a man, but is technically Shion's mother. [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/010/007/010/ He initially refused, because men don’t give birth (and also a thing about his job)]], but agreed when he saw how saddened Yusaki Yukari was by her inability to conceive. [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/010/007/004/ His pride is greatly damaged when he's reminded of this.]]
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** Straight? Not exactly. Sora likes women, and Yukari likes men. Yukari mentions in Volume 10 that Sora hated the time they had normal sex.
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* CantHoldHisLiquor: Sora passes out after a single shot. Would make sense in the context of his gender, but it's probably just because he's Sora.
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* CantHoldHisLiquor: Sora passes out after a single shot. Would make sense in the context of his gender, sex, but it's probably just because he's Sora.
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* {{Transsexual}}: Susumu has had his "dick and balls" removed after visiting America. He gets very emotional when people suggest he's still a man. Er, she.
** [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/005/003/007/ She's jealous that Sora has periods and she doesn't]][[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/008/005/009/ , but looks so manly that she looks more normal, er, "crossdressing".]]
* {{Transvestite}}: Sora and Yukari Wakanae, Kaoru "half-assedly", and Sora's assistants: Susumu (no lance and balls, but still looks like a man), Hiromi ([[spoiler: Shion's first love]] no operation looks womanly and has long blond hair), Kazuko(Judo champion, looks really manly), and Mako (wears glasses, non-op).
** [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/005/003/007/ She's jealous that Sora has periods and she doesn't]][[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/008/005/009/ , but looks so manly that she looks more normal, er, "crossdressing".]]
* {{Transvestite}}: Sora and Yukari Wakanae, Kaoru "half-assedly", and Sora's assistants: Susumu (no lance and balls, but still looks like a man), Hiromi ([[spoiler: Shion's first love]] no operation looks womanly and has long blond hair), Kazuko(Judo champion, looks really manly), and Mako (wears glasses, non-op).
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* {{Transsexual}}: Sora and Yukari Wakanae, Kaoru "half-assedly", and Sora's assistants: Susumu (no "lance and balls"), Hiromi ([[spoiler: Shion's first love]] no operation, has had his "dick long blond hair), Kazuko (Judo champion), and balls" removed after visiting America. He gets very emotional when people suggest he's still a man. Er, she.
Mako (wears glasses).
** [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/005/003/007/She's Susumu's jealous that Sora has periods and she doesn't]][[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/008/005/009/ , but looks so manly that she looks more normal, passes better, er, "crossdressing".]]
* {{Transvestite}}: Sora and Yukari Wakanae, Kaoru "half-assedly", and Sora's assistants: Susumu (no lance and balls, but still looks like a man), Hiromi ([[spoiler: Shion's first love]] no operation looks womanly and has long blond hair), Kazuko(Judo champion, looks really manly), and Mako (wears glasses, non-op).]]
** [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/005/003/007/
* {{Transvestite}}: Sora and Yukari Wakanae, Kaoru "half-assedly", and Sora's assistants: Susumu (no lance and balls, but still looks like a man), Hiromi ([[spoiler: Shion's first love]] no operation looks womanly and has long blond hair), Kazuko(Judo champion, looks really manly), and Mako (wears glasses, non-op).
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* UnwantedHarem: Masahiko just keeps collecting suitors. For his female persona naturally.
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* UnwantedHarem: Masahiko just keeps collecting suitors. For his female persona persona, naturally.
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** Ironically, Sora and Yukari (well, definitely Sora) look terrible and like transvestites when they dress in their [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/001/004/010/ correct genders.]]
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** Ironically, Sora and Yukari (well, definitely Sora) look terrible and like transvestites when they dress in as their [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/001/004/010/ correct genders.birth sex.]]
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* DoubleStandard: Sora seems to get a lot more attention than Yusaki. Sort of makes sense, because Yusaki’s [[{{Understatement}} more]] [[CaptainObvious feminine]] and quieter.
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* DoubleStandard: Sora seems to get a lot more attention than Yusaki. Sort of makes sense, because Yusaki’s [[{{Understatement}} more]] Yusaki’s more [[CaptainObvious feminine]] and quieter.
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* YoungerThanTheyLook: Kaoru is strangely tall [[spoiler: for a girl]], taller than both Shion and Masahiko, but is the youngest one of the group, having just turned 17 at the time of introduction.
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*BabyGotBack: [[http://www.mangareader.net/1658-52777-20/family-compo/chapter-11.html Sora]]
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*** It may just be a [[TranslationConvention translation convention.]] It's possible in Japanese to speak about someone in the third person without ever revealing their gender. The scanlaters may have just found it too awkward in English and just defaulted it to her chosen gender.
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* SpitTake: [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/003/006/012/ Sora]] and [[http://www.anymanga.com/family-compo/004/002/015/ his father]] do spit takes.