History Characters / UltimateFantasticFour

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* AdaptationNameChange: His last name was changed from "Von Doom" to "Van Damme".

* BungledSuicide: This pops up as part of deconstructing the Thing's BlessedWithSuck powers. He's a huge, freakish rock monster, stands out anywhere, has to be careful about crushing anything he touches and has almost no sense of touch. In the 616 MarvelUniverse, this is played for drama now and then but here, he tried to kill himself several times but has not found anything that can break his skin.

** Inverted regarding the incident that gave the four their powers, which was MyGreatestFailure for the 616 Reed, while here it was instead caused by Doom, perhaps one of the reasons this Reed eventually decided he can do no wrong.

** AdaptationalVillainy: After ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'', he turns against everyone, and essentially becomes the new ComicBook/DoctorDoom. He's even the page image for [[AdaptationalVillainy/UltimateMarvel subpage on the subject]] for ''Ultimate Marvel''.

** FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse: However, this does not justify his actions. He had a loving mother and two supporting sisters. He had a best friend in Ben, who protected him from bullies as a child and in high school. He was accepted into the Baxter Building, where his genius could be nurtured, a new father in Franklin Storm, and a new family in Sue, Johnny, and Ben. Yet when things fall apart he turns against his former love and friends and murders his whole family. This was best summed up by an alternate animal world version of Miles Morales.

* EyeScream: His right eye is blinded when Johnny burns his face.

* HeelRealisation: Seems to have one in ''Hunger'' after meeting the mainstream Valeria Richards and realizing the life he could have had. [[spoiler:It's fake.]]

* TheBigGuy: The strongest and largest member of the team. He's also pretty big when he's human.
* BlessedWithSuck: Sure, he's super-strong and durable, but he weighs a ton, meaning any furniture he sits on has to be reinforced. Not to mention he looks like he's made of rock, which makes going outside difficult.
* BodyHorror: He has stone skin, and it's apparently a miracle that he can even breathe.

* UltimateLifeForm: Implied pre-''Ultimate Mystery''. Ben got a raw deal with his initial transformation, being stuck within a grotesque, stone-like shell. However, the trade-off is that Ben is nigh-invulnerable (with only PhysicalGod Thor and the genetically augmented {{Transhuman}} Namor able to make a dent in him or even him feel pain), stronger than nearly any other hero or villain alive, and ''can survive in any environment''. Reed spends his spare time trying to revert the changes but ultimately decides to swing in the other direction and [[EvolutionPowerup complete his transformation instead]], resulting in Ben becoming an EnergyBeing that retains all the benefits of his "Thing" body, but returns him to his human form and grants him [[SuperpowerLottery energy manipulation powers]] on top of that.
* WeUsedToBeFriends: With Reed following Reed's FaceHeelTurn. At first, Ben thought he could be redeemed and offered to help him but a few acts of extreme evil later and Ben no longer wants anything to do with him.

* AdaptationalJerkass: He initially merely started off as a case of this, as while the classic Reed could be a dick from time to time DependingOnTheWriter, he was still a compassionate leader and a devoted husband and father. This Reed is far more brooding and standoffish, even before he becomes a full-blown case of AdaptationalVillainy.
* AdaptationalVillainy: After ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'', he turns against everyone, and essentially becomes the new ComicBook/DoctorDoom. He's even the page image for [[AdaptationalVillainy/UltimateMarvel subpage on the subject]] for ''Ultimate Marvel''.

* FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse: However, this does not justify his actions. He had a loving mother and two supporting sisters. He had a best friend in Ben, who protected him from bullies as a child and in high school. He was accepted into the Baxter Building, where his genius could be nurtured, a new father in Franklin Storm, and a new family in Sue, Johnny, and Ben. Yet when things fall apart he turns against his former love and friends and murders his whole family. This was best summed up by an alternate animal world version of Miles Morales.

** As The Maker, he's trying to conquer the world and calls himself "the future", which makes him seem like the Ultimate version of Kang the Conqueror (though we do later meet a separate character in the Ultimate universe who goes by Kang the Conqueror).

* CardCarryingVillain: Not out-and-out, but during ''New Avengers'' he introduces his organization, W.H.I.S.P.H.E.R. as "A.I.M. if they were still fun" (meaning, still committing mad science).

* BareYourMidriff: One of her costumes has an open jacket with a midriff-baring top. She later sticks with the same body-covering jumpsuit as the other three.

* HotScientist: This incarnation of Susan is an accomplished scientist of her own right while being an exceptional blonde bombshell.

* KarmaHoudini: One of the most egregious examples in Marvel Comics. [[spoiler:Even after [[KillEmAll everything]] he did to the Europe and Asgard of his universe, he's given no real punishment, and is even allowed to go back to working for S.H.I.E.L.D. by Nick Fury. When the Ultimate Universe is destroyed by an Incursion, Reed manages to survive on-board a life raft, escaping to Battleworld. After what goes down there, he survives and passes through into the new Marvel Universe afterward, where he restarts his mad science anew. Even after all his apocalyptic shenanigans with the New Avengers, the collapsing Multiverse, and the Symbiotes, he ends up back in his own restored universe free to cause trouble again and with no heroes to get in his way.]]

* AdaptationPersonalityChange: Gary Richards stands out as a completely different person compared to Nathaniel Richards, especially on a fundamental level and how they treated their son. Most notable is that Ultimate Reed Richards is, so far, the only AlternateSelf of Mainstream Reed Richards to be a villain compared to the pragmatic, but well-intentional Council of Reeds.

* AbusiveDad: It's no wonder Reed turned out so mentally unstable with a dad [[BlatantLies as loving and supportive as this guy]]. Gary is from the first issue shown to be verbally and emotionally (if not physically) abusive toward Reed, having no interest or tolerance for Reed's tinkering, yelling at him from turning the phone into a device, then throwing it at Reed's dinner. A later issue suggests Gary was physically abusive as well. Thanos manages to torture Reed by conjuring an image of Gary preparing to beat him.

* AdaptationalJerkass: From the ParentsAsPeople Nathaniel Richards to AbsuiveDad Gary Richards. He’s an absolute prick with none of the former’s complexities.
* AdaptationalVillainy: Nathaniel might not have been the absolute best father, but he was aware of and acknowledged his shortcomings, encouraged and supported his son's love of science, and his absence from Reed's life was due to circumstances entirely beyond his control. Gary abuses Reed, and is just generally lacking in ''any'' positive traits.
* BrutalHonesty: He has no problems with speaking his mind of how much he disdains his son's intellectual pursuits, especially if it causes annoyances around his home (such as Reed dismantling the blender for spare parts).

* IHaveNoSon: He pretty much spells this out to Reed in a form of a TheReasonYouSuck speech in ''Issue #42''. After the end of ''Ultimatum: Fantastic Four Requiem'', he asks "What are '''you''' doing here?" to Reed when the latter is looking for a place to stay for a bit.
* {{Jerkass}}: Gary is nothing more then an abusive bully to his son.

** After Creator/WarrenEllis left the title, Ben's strength was considerably toned down [[DependingOnTheWriter by the following creative teams.]] Officially, only ComicBook/{{Thor}} and [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor]] are stronger than Ben. [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk The Hulk]], normally stronger than him, is weaker in the Ultimate Universe, so Ben is able to fight him and win during ''Ultimate Power''.

* TookALevelInJerkass: '''UpToEleven''. Reed goes from hero to pure evil monster due to a growing, sociopathic God complex.

* FreudienExcuse: When Reed was a child, he was abused by his father, who had no interest or tolerance for Reed's love of science. He was not respected by his peers, bullied in high school, and wanted to change the world, but could not change it the way he wanted to because he felt no one would let him. He felt guilty over his role in the Ultimatum Event which killed millions in New York, Sue rejected his marriage proposal, his teammates all quit the Fantastic Four team, and finally he was prodded to be a worldwide savior by Kang the Conqueror.

* TookALevelInJerkass: '''UpToEleven''. Reed goes from her to pure evil monster due to a growing, sociopathic God complex.

* AdaptationalBadass: While still in possession of magical abilities, this Doom is depicted with actual super powers rather than using PoweredArmor.

* AffablyEvil: The zombie Reed Richards may be a flesh-eating monster, but he can be surprisingly charming and erudite while he plots to make you into a snack.

* ThePsychoRangers: They are the counterparts of [[ComicBook/FantasticFour the regular Fantastic Four]] from another universe, just with about fifteen more years of experience. Oh yeah, and they're ''[[ComicBook/MarvelZombies flesh-eating zombies]]''.

* AbusiveParents: It's no wonder Reed turned out so mentally unstable with a dad [[BlatantLies as loving and supportive as this guy]]. Gary is from the first issue shown to be verbally and emotionally (if not physically) abusive toward Reed, having no interest or tolerance for Reed's tinkering, yelling at him from turning the phone into a device, then throwing it at Reed's dinner. A later issue suggests Gary was physically abusive as well. Thanos manages to torture Reed by conjuring an image of Gary prepared to beat him.

* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: [[spoiler:His abuse of his son was the first step in Reed's descent to villainy. And considering that villainy has gone on to plague the prime Marvel Universe even currently in more unique and devastating ways than it's millions of native supervillains, good fucking going, Gary.]]

* AbusiveParents: His father would question him on the family history and beat him whenever he would get the answers wrong.

* FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse: When Reed was a child, he was abused by his father, who had no interest or tolerance for Reed's love of science. He was not respected by his peers, bullied in high school, and wanted to change the world, but could not change it the way he wanted to because he felt no one would let him. He felt guilty over his role in the Ultimatum Event which killed millions in New York, Sue rejected his marriage proposal, his teammates all quit the Fantastic Four team, and finally he was prodded to be a worldwide savior by Kang the Conqueror. However, this does not justify his actions. He had a loving mother and two supporting sisters. He had a best friend in Ben, who protected him from bullies as a child and in high school. He was accepted into the Baxter Building, where his genius could be nurtured, a new father in Franklin Storm, and a new family in Sue, Johnny, and Ben. Yet when things fall apart he turns against his former love and friends and murders his whole family. This was best summed up by an alternate animal world version of Miles Morales.

* [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice Job Breaking It, Villain]]: He actually was trying to save the Multiverse in ''[[ComicBook/TheUltimates2015 The Ultimates]]'', but unfortunately he screwed up and only made it that much easier for the First Firmament to consume Eternity. His inability to admit his mistake ("... No. I'd know. I have a mind that stretches across infinity...") is what leads to him butting heads with the eponymous team.

* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: [[spoiler:His abuse of his son was the first step in Reed's descent to villainy. And considering that villainy has gone on to plague ghe prime Marvel Universe even currently in more unique and devastating ways than it's millions of native supervillains, good fucking going, Gary.]]

* {{Jerkass}}: He had problems with this even before his FaceHeelTurn, but it kicks into overdrive once he turns.

* GrumpyBear: He's moody thanks to his freakish appearance but he has a good heart.

* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: [[spoiler:His abuse of his son was the first step in Reed's descent to villainy. And considering that villainy has gone on to plague the prime dimension even currently in more unique and devastating ways than it's millions of native supervillains, good fucking going, Gary.]]