History Characters / UltimateFantasticFour

* AlternateCompanyEquivalent: Being the WorldsSmartestMan and a FallenHero, he's this to ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'s Ozymandias and ComicBook/{{Invincible}}'s Robot. However [[TheSociopth in terms]] [[ItsAllAboutMe of personality]] he's Marvels ComicBook/LexLuthor, a role he shares with Doctor Doom.

** ''ComicBook/SpiderMan2099'': In the original version, Miguel can sense whenever any of his {{Alternate Sel|f}}ves dies. That feeling manifests as physical pain, and he also catches brief glimpses of their deaths.

* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: As the Maker, his grand plan in ''Ultimate Comics: The Ultimates'' was to publicly and ferociously force the world into an authoritarian scientific utopia, wresting power away from those that would hold mankind back. In the ''ComicBook/UltimateUniverse'', he has given up hope of creating a perfect society due to the apparent impossibility of it being sustainable in his simulations, and has installed himself as a shadow ruler of the titular alternate Earth, stoking artificial international conflict and restricting progress so that he and his cohorts can stay on top.

* VillainWithGoodPublicity: On Earth-6160, he is revered as the leader of the free world trying to fix the problems that plague the world. The people are oblivious to the fact ''he'' is the one creating those problems to perpetuate his own power and erased anyone who could stop him.

* EvilIsPetty: Though he'll hide it behind posturing, some of his acts are just him being a jerk who needs to show off to the world. He was already planning on betraying his Universe 616 counterpart during ''Secret Wars'' anyway, but he mentions the tipping point was seeing him interact with a brainwashed / amnesiac Sue Storm and being disgusted by the emotional display.

* NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist: In the ''Ultimate Enemy'' trilogy, [[spoiler:he's willing to kill his own family to fake his death, attacks organizations that he feels are repressing science's potential for their own corrupt reasons, and tries to TakeOverTheWorld so that he can finally "fix things" the way he always knew he could. His claims of good intentions are proven false though as he later creates a utopian civilization in another dimension, then brings it back and tries to ''wipe out humanity'' to replace it with this "better" version. Showing ultimately he's just motivated by a God complex]].

[[folder:Mister Fantastic / The Maker]]

* AdaptationalAngstDowngrade: Regarding the incident that gave the four their powers, which was MyGreatestFailure for the 616 Reed, while here it was instead caused by Doom, perhaps one of the reasons this Reed eventually decided he can do no wrong.
* AdaptationalAngstUpgrade: As a result of having an abusive dad, this Reed had more of a troubled childhood. But in addition to that, he was bullied at school (616 Reed had a better time at school, generally getting along with his classmates). On the plus side, his mom was still around (616 Mrs. Richards died when he was young).

* BizarreAlienBiology: Post-transforming, Reed's cells have been replaced with "pliable bacterial stacks," which are described as single cells which duplicate most of the larger functions of the human body. Essentially, he no longer has most of his organs or even a skeleton; his human shape is just an affectation for convenience/memory's sake. In addition to allowing his RubberMan powers to function at all, the change means that he no longer eats, excretes, breathes, ages or bleeds. To give a concrete example of how much this has changed him: shortly after his FaceHeelTurn, Ultimate Susan Storm tries to kill him by expanding a forcefield bubble inside his brain. Aside from momentarily inflating his head like a balloon, it does ''nothing'' to him, because his biology doesn't work that way anymore. If anything, it just ticks him off once he gets over the shock and realizes that Sue tried to kill him.

* EveryoneHasStandards: Actually done for laughs. He'll murder entire planets, wipe out whole civilizations, tear your brain out with pliers... but he's not going to peep on someone using the can. He's got minions for ''that''.
* EvilCounterpart: To the mainstream Reed Richards. Whereas 616 Reed will ''always'' pick his family over science in the end, Ultimate Reed does not, and has discarded his humanity and his family. When the two meet, 616 Reed is ''shocked'' that any version of him could turn out like Ultimate Reed has. While the Council of Reeds were at times incredibly pragmatic, they still served the greater good in the end and devoted their lives to helping people across the multiverse; this Reed doesn't and is every bit the malevolent MadScientist the mainstream Reed feared he could become.
* EvilIsPetty: Though he'll hide it behind posturing, some of his acts are just him being a jerk who needs to show off to the world. He was already planning on betraying his universe 616 counterpart during ''Secret Wars'' anyway, but he mentions the tipping point was seeing him interact with a brainwashed / amnesiac Sue Storm and being disgusted by the emotional display.
* EvilMakesYouUgly: This is his ultimate fate, when it's revealed he has been behind everything in the [[{{Crossover}} ''Ultimate Doomsday Trilogy'']].

* {{Foil}}: Reed and Victor both share a similar backstory, suffering at the hands of abusive fathers and pouring all their energy into science at a young age. Unlike Victor, however, Reed had a loving mother and younger sister, as well as a best friend in the form of Ben Grimm, which kept his life from being a living hell. Unfortunately, ''Ultimate Mystery'' and ''Ultimate Doom'' show us that even a loving mother, sister and best friend isn't enough to keep Reed from going over the deep end to the point where the heroes are wondering if he's just Doom II.

* FromNobodyToNightmare: He started out as a bullied teenager mocked for his intelligence, became a superhero, but after growing out of favor with the way the world is run decided to take over the world, and now he's basically the Ultimate version of Doctor Doom and someone who even ''616 Thanos'' treats with grudging respect.
* GenreBlind: Once in the main Marvel universe. He's convinced he's got a bead on its nature, but fails to realize the entire universe is much more bizarre and fantastical than he's used to.
* GoMadFromTheRevelation: Part of why Reed went off the deep end was he, like 616 Reed, found a way to peer into the multiverse and see alternate universes. Presumably it was seeing the universes where he or at least versions of him were able to fix the world and seeing how wonderful it would be along with worlds that turned to hell because he or a version of him wasn't allowed to help was one of the major factors leading to his mental breakdown and FaceHeelTurn.

* AbusiveDad: It's no wonder Reed turned out so mentally unstable with a dad [[BlatantLies as loving and supportive as this guy]]. Gary is from the first issue shown to be verbally and emotionally (if not physically) abusive toward Reed, having no interest or tolerance for Reed's tinkering, yelling at him for turning the phone into a device, then throwing it at Reed's dinner. A later issue suggests Gary was physically abusive as well. Thanos manages to torture Reed by conjuring an image of Gary preparing to beat him.