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* {{Woolseyism}}: Frequently used as SuperlativeDubbing when it has little to do with that.
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* SocietyMarchesOn: It is supposed to about works assuming the then-current cultural norms th the future, but has suffered TropeDecay for any norm in a work that has become dated.
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* TalkingToThemself and TalkingToHimself: You might assume that one of these is a gendered redirect to the other, since the gender is the only difference between the titles. You would be mistaken; they are completely different concepts.

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* ArcBreak: Only 2 examples, one commented out, and 5 wicks outside indexes.
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* SimSimSalabim: one of those artistic license <country> tropes, except in this case the name has ''absolutely nothing'' to do with the subject at hand. It's a magic spell from a ''German'' children's song that is sometimes used for an ''Arabian'' myth (and is not usually spelled like that), yet the trope is about ''India''. I suspect this will be hilariously non-thriving.
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* ILoveNuclearPower is not about loving Nuklear Power. It is about getting beneficial mutations and/or superpowers from nuclear material. All of its sister tropes are instead named "X Can Do Anything."

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* ILoveNuclearPower is not about loving Nuklear Power.nuclear power. It is about getting beneficial mutations and/or superpowers from nuclear material. All of its sister tropes are instead named "X Can Do Anything."

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* SecondYearProtagonist: Attracts ZCE examples, as well as examples that are no more than "X is a sophomore." The freshman and senior struggles noted in the description can be tropeworthy concepts if not covered already.
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* TurningIntoYourParent: Launched under the assumption that TurnOutLikeHisFather is narrower than the examples actually seem to be. Sponsor held off from crosswicking the new trope due to this concern.

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* TurningIntoYourParent: Launched under the assumption that TurnOutLikeHisFather is narrower than the examples actually seem to be. Sponsor held off from crosswicking the new trope due to this concern.duplication concerns.
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As the person who adopted and launched the draft, I'm still miffed nothing really came from that discussion.

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* TurningIntoYourParent: Launched under the assumption that TurnOutLikeHisFather is narrower than the examples actually seem to be. Sponsor held off from crosswicking the new trope due to this concern.
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* BigNameFan: Supposed to be about a fan who has a prominent role in the fandom, but most of the examples are about a famous person who just happens to be a fan of the work.
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* MisterXAndMisterY: Trope concept potentially overlaps with old definition of ThoseTwoBadGuys (redefined by another TRS effort). Description is brief and vague.

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* MisterXAndMisterY: Trope concept potentially overlaps with old definition of ThoseTwoBadGuys Those Two Bad Guys (redefined by another TRS effort). Description is brief and vague.
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* DiscreditedTrope: Often used for tropes that are actually still in use, plus various other forms of misuse. Possibly Administrivia/TheSameButMore to DeadHorseTrope.
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* IWorkAlone: Really bad case of ExampleAsAThesis, has a StockPhrase title, and cannot tell what the trope is about.
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* SomeKindOfForceField: Title doesn't explain which aspect of a ForceField is involved, and is supposedly named after a stock phrase.
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Screwed up the second link on my below edit. Here is the correct link to Invincible Villain's cleanup thread.


* InvincibleVillain: yep, this gets misused for villains that are fought all the time but have a ludicrously high power level, and are defeated through combat in the end. This trope is not "a super-powered villain who takes a lot of planning and effort to defeat".
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* ZeroesAndOnes is getting misuse for "binary code exists" or for "things are being represented with binary code". The trope is supposed to be about a character who doesn't understand computers and explains them in an overly simplified fashion. I think the unclear name leads to this misuse (as well as the image), and maybe we should actually repurpose it for "things are being represented with binary code".
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* InvincibleVillain: yep, this gets misused for villains that are fought all the time but have a ludicrously high power level, and are defeated through combat in the end. This trope is not "a super-powered villain who takes a lot of planning and effort to defeat".
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* {{Fanservice}}: Has no on-page examples, but attracts gushing in off-page wicks. See relevant discussion [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=93238&type=att here]].
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I don't think this requires any more than a cleanup. [2]


* OneMarioLimit: Attracts broad or FanMyopia examples which fail to demonstrate a name limit like Mario (such as "There will never be a character named X" without explanation), similar to the now exampleless SongAssociation. Also, this is mainly defined by what is ''not'' in the work, implying it is Administrivia/NotATrope.
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* DidntSeeThatComing is being misused for, well, "a character was surprised by something" or for "a plot twist surprised the audience". Specifically, the trope is supposed to be that a careful plan goes to pieces because of something wholly unexpected. Basically, TheChessmaster who fails at XanatosSpeedChess.

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* DidntSeeThatComing is being misused for, well, "a character was surprised by something" or for "a plot twist surprised the audience". audience." Specifically, the trope is supposed to be that a careful plan goes to pieces because of something wholly unexpected. Basically, TheChessmaster who fails at XanatosSpeedChess.



* FalseReassurance: the IP thread on the topic makes clear that people have different ideas of what the trope is about. The name is misleading, in that any old false reassurance is not necessarily an example. Per the description, the trope is "deceiving people by telling the truth in a way they won't believe".

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* FalseReassurance: the IP thread on the topic makes clear that people have different ideas of what the trope is about. The name is misleading, in that any old false reassurance is not necessarily an example. Per the description, the trope is "deceiving people by telling the truth in a way they won't believe".believe."



* PricklyPorcupine: While the description clarifies that porcupines (or any spiny mammal) is depicted in a stereotypical manner, it has examples of "porcupines in fiction". There's a notice added, but this trope could use a cleanup.

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* PricklyPorcupine: While the description clarifies that porcupines (or any spiny mammal) is depicted in a stereotypical manner, it has examples of "porcupines in fiction". fiction." There's a notice added, but this trope could use a cleanup.



* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Most examples just describe the work's moral(s) with an implicit (or sometimes explicit) "[[Administrivia/RightingGreatWrongs this is important and more people need to agree with it]]". The "correct" definition (a work is improved by not being subtle about its message) is pretty much "{{Anvilicious}} [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools but in a good way]]". An effort to create a definition-only super-trope called "AnvilOfTheStory" was started and launched (after a very long delay), but it didn't do much for the misuse (yet).

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Most examples just describe the work's moral(s) with an implicit (or sometimes explicit) "[[Administrivia/RightingGreatWrongs this is important and more people need to agree with it]]". it]]." The "correct" definition (a work is improved by not being subtle about its message) is pretty much "{{Anvilicious}} [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools but in a good way]]". way]]." An effort to create a definition-only super-trope called "AnvilOfTheStory" was started and launched (after a very long delay), but it didn't do much for the misuse (yet).



* ViolationOfCommonSense: This is a video game trope wherein the game gives you the option to do something plainly foolish, then rewards you for doing it. Many of the examples, even on the page, are just "this works in a way I personally think is nonsensical".

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* ViolationOfCommonSense: This is a video game trope wherein the game gives you the option to do something plainly foolish, then rewards you for doing it. Many of the examples, even on the page, are just "this works in a way I personally think is nonsensical".nonsensical."



* ILoveNuclearPower is not about loving Nuklear Power. It is about getting beneficial mutations and/or superpowers from nuclear material. All of its sister tropes are instead named "X Can Do Anything".

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* ILoveNuclearPower is not about loving Nuklear Power. It is about getting beneficial mutations and/or superpowers from nuclear material. All of its sister tropes are instead named "X Can Do Anything".Anything."



* PyramidPower is a mixture of "pyramids have a mystical power", "pyramids were built by aliens", "pyramids were built by ''slaves''", and "this work contains a pyramid". The last of these is obviously PSOC, but the trope description is such a mess that it's not clear which of the first three is meant.
* SchoolForScheming, as the trope description points out, isn't actually a school for scheming. Rather, it means that the school is a coverup for a scheme. So the trope name means something very different than the trope does (and the description is required to point out "yes, the name really refers to an AcademyOfEvil".
* TheScream. Well of ''course'' this page isn't simply about screams. It is instead a highly specific trope of "massively zoomed out shot of a scream". Predictably, a good amount of the examples are "somebody screams in this work".

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* PyramidPower is a mixture of "pyramids have a mystical power", "pyramids were built by aliens", "pyramids were built by ''slaves''", and "this work contains a pyramid". pyramid." The last of these is obviously PSOC, but the trope description is such a mess that it's not clear which of the first three is meant.
* SchoolForScheming, as the trope description points out, isn't actually a school for scheming. Rather, it means that the school is a coverup for a scheme. So the trope name means something very different than the trope does (and the description is required to point out "yes, the name really refers to an AcademyOfEvil".
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* TheScream. Well of ''course'' this page isn't simply about screams. It is instead a highly specific trope of "massively zoomed out shot of a scream". scream." Predictably, a good amount of the examples are "somebody screams in this work".work."



* TrojanGauntlet: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1596035975056884100&page=1 On Image Pickin']], it was discovered that the page has a CreatorProvincialism issue -- the "Trojan" in the name refers to a brand of condom that's unknown outside the US, so the name ends up sounding like a reference to the TrojanHorse. The actual trope is "Embarrassing Condom Purchase".

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* TrojanGauntlet: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1596035975056884100&page=1 On Image Pickin']], it was discovered that the page has a CreatorProvincialism issue -- the "Trojan" in the name refers to a brand of condom that's unknown outside the US, so the name ends up sounding like a reference to the TrojanHorse. The actual trope is "Embarrassing Condom Purchase".Purchase."



* {{Wimpification}}: Name is nonindicative of its meaning (a strong character is turned weak in fanfiction in order to serve the submissive position in a {{slash|fic}} relationship), and can be easily confused for BadassDecay due to the dictionary definitions of "wimp". [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1593612732032518300 An unfinished thread for this, which was moved to the Morgue.]] The trope was originally named "{{Uke}}fication", a more explicit reference to fanfiction practices and terminology, but the name was changed after efforts to minimize the use of Japanese terminology in trope names.

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* {{Wimpification}}: Name is nonindicative of its meaning (a strong character is turned weak in fanfiction in order to serve the submissive position in a {{slash|fic}} relationship), and can be easily confused for BadassDecay due to the dictionary definitions of "wimp". "wimp." [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1593612732032518300 An unfinished thread for this, which was moved to the Morgue.]] The trope was originally named "{{Uke}}fication", a more explicit reference to fanfiction practices and terminology, but the name was changed after efforts to minimize the use of Japanese terminology in trope names.



* GenderNeutralNarrator: "Narrator doesn't have a gender because it's not important". If it's not important, is it really a trope?

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* GenderNeutralNarrator: "Narrator doesn't have a gender because it's not important". important." If it's not important, is it really a trope?



* TheMaster: This is a list of characters named "the master". That is not a trope; it is a list of unrelated things that happen to have the same name.

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* TheMaster: This is a list of characters named "the master". master." That is not a trope; it is a list of unrelated things that happen to have the same name.



* SecondYearProtagonist: Attracts ZCE examples, as well as examples that are no more than "X is a sophomore". The freshman and senior struggles noted in the description can be tropeworthy concepts if not covered already.
* TurtlePower: Defined as "Turtles are Awesome", which would be an outdated "Everything's Better with Turtles" in all but name, complete with a load of "This work contains a turtle" examples and a few examples that overlap with TurtleIsland, WiseOldTurtle, or other subtropes. There are enough examples of "Turtles are powerful enough to be a powerful opponent or ally in battle", so perhaps the trope could be salvaged into "Badass Turtle".

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* SecondYearProtagonist: Attracts ZCE examples, as well as examples that are no more than "X is a sophomore". sophomore." The freshman and senior struggles noted in the description can be tropeworthy concepts if not covered already.
* TurtlePower: Defined as "Turtles are Awesome", which would be an outdated "Everything's Better with Turtles" in all but name, complete with a load of "This work contains a turtle" examples and a few examples that overlap with TurtleIsland, WiseOldTurtle, or other subtropes. There are enough examples of "Turtles are powerful enough to be a powerful opponent or ally in battle", so perhaps the trope could be salvaged into "Badass Turtle".Turtle."



* EditingWorks: Nonstandard design. The concept (applying edits to raw footage) is very broad, like "hand-eye coordination".

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* EditingWorks: Nonstandard design. The concept (applying edits to raw footage) is very broad, like "hand-eye coordination".coordination."



* FamousLastWords: In practice, it's just a collection of ''every'' character's last words, regardless of how notable the character is or how famous the words are, or in other words, this is just "character says thing before they die". Additionally, this seems to be objective and subjective phenomena lumped into one, where "famous" could be InUniverse or the [[AudienceReactions audience's reaction]] to the line's "cool-ness." Discussed in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15794620060A54617700&page=1#16 a Trope Talk thread]] and in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=88175&type=att this ATT thread.]] There was a previous TRS effort [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1370871959056646200&page=1 in 2013,]] where making it JustForFun was discussed.

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* FamousLastWords: In practice, it's just a collection of ''every'' character's last words, regardless of how notable the character is or how famous the words are, or in other words, this is just "character says thing before they die". die." Additionally, this seems to be objective and subjective phenomena lumped into one, where "famous" could be InUniverse or the [[AudienceReactions audience's reaction]] to the line's "cool-ness." Discussed in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15794620060A54617700&page=1#16 a Trope Talk thread]] and in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=88175&type=att this ATT thread.]] There was a previous TRS effort [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1370871959056646200&page=1 in 2013,]] where making it JustForFun was discussed.



* AnimationAgeGhetto ("cartoons exist that are not for children") is essentially the same as WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids ("works that people THINK are for children but are really not") except the former is limited to cartoons and the latter is for any kind of work. And then there is WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids, which ''sounds'' like sarcasm mode for the exact same thing, and it's really "works that ''the marketing department'' THINK are for children but are really not". Oh, and WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForLittleGirls is the same thing but limited to ''female'' kids. So we have four unclearly-named pages dealing with more-or-less the same concept. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1597010610001425500&page=1#comment-19 This post]] from a mod on ImagePickin, while not marked as being posted with the mod hat on, said that WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids and WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids in particular are overdue for TRS threads, with wick checks being necessary for both.

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* AnimationAgeGhetto ("cartoons exist that are not for children") is essentially the same as WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids ("works that people THINK are for children but are really not") except the former is limited to cartoons and the latter is for any kind of work. And then there is WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids, which ''sounds'' like sarcasm mode for the exact same thing, and it's really "works that ''the marketing department'' THINK are for children but are really not". not." Oh, and WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForLittleGirls is the same thing but limited to ''female'' kids. So we have four unclearly-named pages dealing with more-or-less the same concept. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1597010610001425500&page=1#comment-19 This post]] from a mod on ImagePickin, while not marked as being posted with the mod hat on, said that WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids and WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids in particular are overdue for TRS threads, with wick checks being necessary for both.



* OurTimeMachineIsDifferent and TimeMachine: Two versions of "plot-relevant time travel device". The better description is on TM, along with over 800 wicks. OTMID follows the OurTropesAreDifferent naming structure, but only has about 80 wicks. The respective pages don't even seem to be aware that the other page exists.

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* OurTimeMachineIsDifferent and TimeMachine: Two versions of "plot-relevant time travel device". device." The better description is on TM, along with over 800 wicks. OTMID follows the OurTropesAreDifferent naming structure, but only has about 80 wicks. The respective pages don't even seem to be aware that the other page exists.
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* MurderersAreRapists: The page is medium-specific in a way that isn't a requirement, off-page wicks attract ZCE, and the name is very similar to our "All X are Y" tropes. It is incorrectly listed on Administrivia.DefinitionOnlyPages.

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* MurderersAreRapists: The page is medium-specific in a way that isn't a requirement, off-page wicks attract ZCE, and the name is very similar to our "All X are Y" tropes. It is incorrectly listed on Administrivia.DefinitionOnlyPages.Administrivia/DefinitionOnlyPages.



* {{Featurization}}: A poorly-performing duplicate of CompilationMovie that is incorrectly listed as a {{Administrivia/DefinitionOnlyPage|s}}.

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* {{Featurization}}: A poorly-performing duplicate of CompilationMovie that is incorrectly listed as a {{Administrivia/DefinitionOnlyPage|s}}.{{Administrivia/Definition Only Page|s}}.



* HigherSelf: The page describes a superego type concept, but combines both "moral" and "objective" judgements. Also incorrectly listed on Administrivia.DefinitionOnlyPages.

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* HigherSelf: The page describes a superego type concept, but combines both "moral" and "objective" judgements. Also incorrectly listed on Administrivia.DefinitionOnlyPages.Administrivia/DefinitionOnlyPages.



* MetroSpecificUnderworld: Just a list of stereotypes of gangs for specific areas, no explanation of the significance of the trope; has a non-standard page format. Also a poorly performing trope incorrectly listed as a {{Administrivia/DefinitionOnlyPage|s}}.

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* MetroSpecificUnderworld: Just a list of stereotypes of gangs for specific areas, no explanation of the significance of the trope; has a non-standard page format. Also a poorly performing trope incorrectly listed as a {{Administrivia/DefinitionOnlyPage|s}}.{{Administrivia/Definition Only Page|s}}.
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* LongJohnShoutout: Contains a low amount of wicks, pointing toward it being redundant with ReferencedBy.TreasureIsland.

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* LongJohnShoutout: Contains Has a low amount of wicks, wicks (11 before being added to this page on October 22, 2020), pointing toward it being redundant with ReferencedBy.TreasureIsland.
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* MiniaturesConversions: Listed as a Administrivia/{{Definition-Only Page|s}}, but it has been pointed out that there may be InUniverse examples.

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* HotlinkedImageSwitch: Had only six wicks prior to being added here (October 22, 2020), one of which is on PagesNeedingWicks and none of which are on work pages. On-page examples are primarily focused on real life examples with little to no focus on fiction.
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* YellowSashOfPower. Hall monitors do not usually wear a yellow sash (google it and you'll see). Lots of people that aren't hall monitors DO wear a yellow sash (check out ThatOtherWiki and you'll see). That makes a bad name.
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"Bad writing" and "Your Mileage May Vary" are not synonymous.


* BrokenAesop: The trope is listed as an objective trope. However, given it is a bad writing trope, perhaps it would be better served as a YMMV trope.

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* BrokenAesop: The trope is listed as an objective trope. However, given it is a bad writing trope, perhaps it would "What the work shows contradicts its intended moral" might be better served as a YMMV trope.subjective.
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* PantyShot: A lot of the examples aren't clear that it's played for fanservice, and there might be lewdness issues. Notably, [[{{Squick}} some list examples from kids]].
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Have a page you want to TRS, but there's too much backlog? Never fear- save those pages here!

Feel free to also include the reason why you want to TRS it, a link to prior discussion, and/or a link to a wick check, just so it's all in order when we can finally take these things to TRS.

Need help with the wick checking? [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15887320850A64945100&page=1 Get assistance here.]]

See also Sandbox/AppearanceTropesCleanup, Sandbox/TLPCrashRescueTallies, and Sandbox/BadassCleanUp.
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* AccidentalAesop: This audience reaction is about a good creator-unintended aesop that the audience interprets. However, like HardTruthAesop before its rename, it's frequently used for what is really DarthWiki/WarpThatAesop (when people draw absurd conclusions to a work's themes), AlternateAesopInterpretation (when the audience interprets another aesop from the one that's intended), or just "unintended Bad Aesop." Maybe do like CreatorsApathy (formerly They Just Didn't Care) and require WordOfGod to make it trivia?
* ActuallyPrettyFunny: The trope is about the butt of an insulting joke finding said joke funny, but it's often misused to mean ''any'' instance of someone initially being reluctant to say that a joke is funny, regardless of the joke's subject. For example, the part where the joke in question must be at the target's expense is often ignored.\\
Expanding the definition to include misuse, or alternatively doing a Administrivia/TropeTransplant, would probably be the easiest route -- characters claiming a joke isn't funny, then reluctantly admitting they found it funny and/or laughing at it, is still a trope, and [[Administrivia/HowDidWeMissThisOne doesn't appear to be one TV Tropes already has a page for]]. In addition, characters laughing at a joke they're the target of, possibly reluctantly, is a fairly narrow definition.
* AirstripOne: a lot of the examples (probably because the poor page image) are areas which just happen to have a nondescript name for whatever reason - e.g. parodies where all areas are named North City or the Forest Of Trees as a joke. The trope is supposed to be un-naming a region after conquering it.
* AntiFrustrationFeatures: Supposed to be about instances where a video game temporarily changes one or some of its rules to keep certain sections from being frustrating. However, it gets used for any feature that makes a game less frustrating or more convenient to play, including changes made to sequels (which may be covered by SequelDifficultyDrop instead, depending on how many changes were made to said sequels). There was [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1482035031012264300&page=1#21 an attempt]] at a TRS thread, but it was closed due to the clock expiring.
* BeneathTheEarth is supposed to be about cities or societies underneath the earth. Predictably (and the image doesn't help) it gets mistaken for just about anything living underneath the earth, such as big monsters.
* BigNameFan: Supposed to be about a fan who has a prominent role in the fandom, but most of the examples are about a famous person who just happens to be a fan of the work.
* BoringButPractical: The trope is a mirror of AwesomeButImpractical i.e. about simple things that do their jobs at least as good as their awesome counterparts, like using a shotgun instead of a freaking BFG; however the page describing the trope itself contains examples of things that are boring, but required (i.e. don't have an awesome counterpart), like RTS worker units. There is also an overlap with MundaneSolution, where a problem is solved by mundane means instead of something awesome and uncommon.
* TheBusCameBack: The description states that the character has to be "''[[PutOnABus explicitly]]'' [[PutOnABus written out of a story]]"; a lot of examples, including on the page itself, just have characters that [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome drop off from the series with no explanation]] and come back later, also usually with no explanation. There was [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1578640250011063100 an a attempt]] at a TRS thread, but it was declined due to the wick check having insufficient wicks.
* ButNotTooBlack: Multiple issues documented on the discussion page going back years. Seems to be a wastebin trope for anything related to skin tone; often used as simply "biracial characters exist" or for complaining.
* CargoShip: Is about fans who ''pretend'' that a character has romantic feelings for an inanimate objects. A lot of examples are about characters canonically developing feelings for an object InUniverse, which feels like a different concept (which is possibly already covered by CompanionCube).
* CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkeys: A lot of examples on the page are either aversions or inversions, which seems like there should be a "French Military Prowess" trope to contrast this.
* CheeseStrategy: the trope uses a specific definition (i.e. that the strategy requires little skill to execute), but most fandoms have their own definition (which often boils down to "strategy people don't like"). The result is that the page has a lot of examples that are ''called'' cheese but don't meet the trope definition. That strikes me as a bad trope name.
** It turns out CheeseStrategy is the exact same thing as EasyLevelTrick, or perhaps EasyLevelTrick Done Poorly or EasyLevelTrick That People Complain About.
* CowboyBeBopAtHisComputer: The very concept of the trope would make it a pop-culture specific counterpart to CriticalResearchFailure, except that this one is Trivia and CriticalResearchFailure is YMMV. This is problematic, since interpretations of several works can be debatable.
* TheDeadHaveNames. Judging by its description, this is redundant to WarMemorial. However, the ''examples'' suggest that this is about a ''character'' remembering everybody who died in a war (or perhaps everybody he has killed!); so it's a character action and not a list of names. This would mean that both the name and the description need changing.\\
ImagePickin previously removed the image for TheDeadHaveNames ([[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1583203333063971600 link to thread]]) because it was a better fit for WarMemorial, and the current image (as of September 5, 2020) for the latter was picked in a thread for the former, with the image on the former being pulled instead of replaced.
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The page is supposed to be about works that [[BoxOfficeBomb failed]] due to their excessively brutal tone, but most of the examples are just "This show is somewhat dark, and I don't like it", "I stopped watching this after the WhamEpisode", or "This show is really dark" without discussing the work's failure, assuming the work failed at all.
* DevelopersForesight: Previously renamed from The Dev Team Thinks of Everything because it was being used too broadly -- it's about video game developers accounting for things players have to go out of their way to find, if they find them at all, but it was frequently misused to refer to {{Easter egg}}s and attention to detail. Despite the rename, the trope continues to suffer from roughly the same kind of misuse that caused it to get renamed.
* DidntSeeThatComing is being misused for, well, "a character was surprised by something" or for "a plot twist surprised the audience". Specifically, the trope is supposed to be that a careful plan goes to pieces because of something wholly unexpected. Basically, TheChessmaster who fails at XanatosSpeedChess.
* DiscreditedMeme is only supposed to allow {{Administrivia/In Universe|ExamplesOnly}} and creator-acknowledged examples, but it still gets frequent out-of-universe and non-creator acknowledged use, particularly [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining about memes you don't like]]. The fact that it's classified as [[YMMV/HomePage YMMV]] is probably a factor -- creator-acknowledged information generally falls under {{Trivia}} and not YMMV. Compare CreatorsApathy, which was moved from YMMV to Trivia when WordOfGod acknowledgement became a requirement.
* EveryoneIsGay is a fanfic trope, so essentially all non-fanfic examples on it are wrong. It is likely that the name is getting mixed up with CastFullOfGay.
* FalseReassurance: the IP thread on the topic makes clear that people have different ideas of what the trope is about. The name is misleading, in that any old false reassurance is not necessarily an example. Per the description, the trope is "deceiving people by telling the truth in a way they won't believe".
* FourManBand: Attracts ZCE's, and uses a cumbersome table format for examples.
* FreeTheFrogs: Is now misused for freeing of any captive animal (even the video example is misused, and also isn't in a school setting at all) instead of freeing frogs or any other animal intended for dissection.
* GenderBlenderName: An IP discussion points out that the trope was often used as someone having a name common to the opposite gender. In reality, the trope was supposed to be for gender-neutral names.
* GenericDoomsdayVillain is for villains with no clear motivations or characterization and is only defined by the threat they pose. However, it often gets misused for one-dimensional or simplistic villains or used to complain about villains people found lame or boring, even if said villains have clear motivations or characterization.
* GenreBusting: The striking majority of examples are works made of several different but easily distinguishable genres, which would put them under GenreMashup instead. There are also a few [=ZCEs=] littering the page, of the "extremely vague" type. Previous discussions [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1452000115002414600 here]] and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15450288070A58363900&page=1 here]].\\
Note that as of September 5, 2020, the TRS thread for Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly is still open; the thread decided to migrate its examples to either GenreMashup or GenreBusting.
* HilarityEnsues: The trope is about things that are dangerous and/or illegal in real life being PlayedForLaughs, but it's often misused as a PredefinedMessage to refer to funny things happening in general. A TRS thread would definitely require a wick check, as with the thread for RealityEnsues.
* IKnewIt: On this wiki, this Trivia item has a specific meaning: a fan theory or fan speculation being proven correct. However, the phrase has a broader meaning outside of this wiki. As a result, it gets misused for InUniverse examples where someone reacts to being correct about something under any circumstance or someone literally saying the phrase "I knew it" or any variation of it. IKnewIt has also been linked to whenever the words would come up, which is one reason Administrivia/NoNewStockPhrases was implemented. A similar issue with "Too Soon" (which was frequently confused with DudeNotFunny, due to that phrase's usual meaning) caused it to be renamed to DistancedFromCurrentEvents.
* ItIsPronouncedTroPAY: Intended for characters insisting on pronunciations that sound fancier than the actual pronunciation, but often used to refer to other forms of alternate pronunciations, or even for ''standard'' pronunciations that are thought to be unintuitive by one or more viewer(s) (which isn't objective, unlike the other ways it's used). The name also follows the deprecated practice of using "trope" as a placeholder.
* KilledOffForReal is supposed to be limited to settings where resurrection is normal, and then it represents a death that cannot be undone for whatever reason. Essentially, that's the exact same thing as DeaderThanDead. Of course, since the ''name'' KilledOffForReal means something else entirely, this trope gets mistaken for other death tropes, basically any situation where a character dies (which is CharacterDeath, a Administrivia/NoOnPageExamples trope).
* MemeticMutation: It was originally intended for memes that became widespread and started to "mutate", but most of the examples are fandom in-jokes and other lesser known memes. There's discussion in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=88493&type=att this ATT thread]] and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15914174190A77533500 this forum thread]] about whether these examples are valid or not.
* MurderersAreRapists: The page is medium-specific in a way that isn't a requirement, off-page wicks attract ZCE, and the name is very similar to our "All X are Y" tropes. It is incorrectly listed on Administrivia.DefinitionOnlyPages.
* NotTheIntendedUse: Desperately needs a description re-haul, as the description is exclusively about videogames and tabletop games while the trope is widely used for... well, things that were not used in the intended way, in any media.
* OneMarioLimit: Attracts broad or FanMyopia examples which fail to demonstrate a name limit like Mario (such as "There will never be a character named X" without explanation), similar to the now exampleless SongAssociation. Also, this is mainly defined by what is ''not'' in the work, implying it is Administrivia/NotATrope.
* PricklyPorcupine: While the description clarifies that porcupines (or any spiny mammal) is depicted in a stereotypical manner, it has examples of "porcupines in fiction". There's a notice added, but this trope could use a cleanup.
* PronounTrouble: Despite the trope being clear-cut and objective, multiple examples talk about ''fans'' having trouble figuring out what pronouns to use for a character. If we don't already have a YMMV trope for this, it's good spliting fodder.
* SlidingScaleOfVillainThreat: Non-standard page design that, in lieu of the standard Example folders, dumps character names under sub-bullets of the list entries. As a result, nearly every on-page example is a ZCE.
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Most examples just describe the work's moral(s) with an implicit (or sometimes explicit) "[[Administrivia/RightingGreatWrongs this is important and more people need to agree with it]]". The "correct" definition (a work is improved by not being subtle about its message) is pretty much "{{Anvilicious}} [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools but in a good way]]". An effort to create a definition-only super-trope called "AnvilOfTheStory" was started and launched (after a very long delay), but it didn't do much for the misuse (yet).
* StrawmanHasAPoint: It's supposed to be "a StrawCharacter makes a better argument than the author intended", but most of the examples are more suited for InformedWrongness because they don't really feature a true Straw Character (or even someone holding the StrawmanBall), and/or because they defend the character's actions/beliefs regardless of what arguments were actually made in the work. The video has both of these issues -- Oscar and Lenny aren't straw characters, and they don't even ''try'' to make an argument.
* StylisticSuck: This trope is about [[ShowWithinAShow Shows Within Shows]] that appear to be of much lower quality than the work containing them, but most examples are about works (or small parts of them) being intentionally badly made, like an intentional version of SoBadItsGood. It could probably use a Administrivia/TropeTransplant since "the work is crappy on purpose" suits the title much better.
* TastesLikeDiabetes: The definition is about works that are poorly-received due to being excessively saccharine, which either distracts from the rest of the show, or reveals that it has nothing actually going for it other than being cute. It's often used for anything that's cute, with many examples treating it as a positive or neutral thing despite being intended as a negative reaction (positive usage would probably fit better on SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel). There are also lots of InUniverse examples about a ShowWithinAShow.
* {{Unobtainium}}. It's right in the name: an important part of this trope is that we ''can't obtain'' this material. That's rarer than you'd think in fiction, and indeed it's getting misused for any material that's rare and valuable. Given that "unobtainable" materials end up being eventually "obtained" in most fiction, it's not clear that this is a sufficiently distinct trope from AppliedPhlebotinium and its family.
* ViolationOfCommonSense: This is a video game trope wherein the game gives you the option to do something plainly foolish, then rewards you for doing it. Many of the examples, even on the page, are just "this works in a way I personally think is nonsensical".
* WalkingSpoiler: One of the most misused and misunderstood tropes on the site. It's supposed to be about characters whose mere existence is a massive spoiler for the story because they give away the resolution to the main premise of the work, reveal the fate of its most important character(s), or take the story in an unexpected direction just before the end for instance, but it frequently gets misused to describe any character involved in a plot twist or one with a SecretIdentity or secret motives, even if they can be described in at least the most basic sense without spoiling the story.
* WalkingSwimsuitScene: WalkingShirtlessScene was brought to TropeTalk ([[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15873137820A32529400&page=1 link to thread]]) because it's often confused with ShirtlessScene, and it was pointed out that WalkingSwimsuitScene has roughly the same problem.
* WereStillRelevantDammit: Brought up on [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1589414603018264700&page=1 this failed thread attempt]], suffers from TropeDecay as people are ignoring the “still” part of the title and using this for things that are not part of a long-running franchise (most notably''WesternAnimation/TheEmojiMovie''), it’s also not clear how long the franchise has to run for it to qualify.
* WhatAnIdiot: Suffers frequent complaining and misuse, where users interpret actions made in a bad state of mind, without all information, etc., to be idiocy; the worst of these "examples" is where the troper expects the character to go against their established personality to [[InsaneTrollLogic not go against their established personality.]]
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: attracts [=ZCEs=] and [[Administrivia/WeblinksAreNotExamples weblink only examples]] like the plague. A lack of firm standards over what qualifies and how said examples should be described to make it clear that people think drugs are involved is probably not helping
* WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings: This refers to when creators who frequently interact(ed) with fans sever ties with the fanbase after fans misbehave. However, as mentioned on its Administrivia/SquarePegRoundTrope entry, it's frequently misused in a way that's broader than the actual definition -- it's often used to refer to ''any'' instance of creators taking things away from misbehaving fans, such as features in a video game. Expanding the definition to include misuse would probably lead to overlap with TheyChangedItNowItSucks -- for example, the entire [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings/TVTropes TV Tropes subpage]] is misuse, and contains examples similar to what a TheyChangedItNowItSucks subpage would have, with the main difference being that it doesn't focus on reactions to the changes, nor does it require there to be reactions to the changes. While the misuse is more in line with the definition of the supertrope, WhyWeCantHaveNiceThings, the fandom subtrope's definition is more strict than that.
-->'''Square Peg, Round Trope page:''' "WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings is a bit more specific than its title would imply; it's meant to be for instances in which creators interact closely with fans of a work, only to cut down on that interaction after having ''unpleasant'' encounters with fans (or haters), disappointing the nicer fans. It has often been used for cases in which the consequence of bad behavior is something other than less fan-creator dialogue, such as cancellation of a work, the retirement of a creator, or removal of a feature in a video game (some of which are listed as potential ''further'' consequences in the description)."
* WildMagic. Outside of TVtropes, "wild magic" is the common term for magic that produces random effects (as popularized by D&D). Within TVtropes, these random effects are termed with the clunkily-named "EntropyAndChaosMagic", and the trope "WildMagic" refers to something else entirely (i.e. that the "magic" of the setting is "alive"). Predictably, this leads to a lot of wrong examples on WildMagic.
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[[folder:Not Thriving]]
* {{Adminisphere}}: Created before 2010, but only has 27 wicks, only 9 of which link to work or character pages, and 212 inbounds as of 28th of July.
* BugBuzz: Technically healthy due to having 74 wicks and 473 inbounds (as of June 8, 2020), but surprisingly low for how common the trope is. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=78470&type=att This was brought up on ATT]]. The name also sounds broader than the actual definition -- it's about insects' buzzing sounds annoying people (which is common in both fiction and real life), rather than being about the fact that some insects produce buzzing sounds (which wouldn't be a trope, unlike the proper definition).\\
Compare QuakingWithFear being renamed from Knees Knocking Together and CommercializedChristmas being renamed from Green Christmas, which were also cases of common tropes having unusually small wick counts.
* CharlieChaplinShoutOut: Only has 32 wicks as of April 30, 2020, and may work better as a ReferencedBy subpage (ReferencedBy.CharlieChaplin) than a trope -- Shout-Out to Shakespeare was previously moved to ReferencedBy.WilliamShakespeare and Good Grief, Another Peanuts Shout-Out! was moved to ReferencedBy.{{Peanuts}}.
* CurtainFic: The page has been here since 2009 but only has 27 wicks. Also, while "curtain fic" is certainly a known term within the fanfic community, it's likely examples have been left untroped because a casual reader had no clue the term existed. Might also benefit from being expanded to include chapters of a work instead of the entire work, and for the description to put more emphasis that the activity doesn't have to be shopping.
* DownToTheLastMatch: As of August 13, 2020, this page has only 8 wicks. It was launched in 2010. The description is two sentences, and it has only 8 examples, 3 of which are [=ZCE=]s.
* MiniaturesConversions: Listed as a Administrivia/{{Definition-Only Page|s}}, but it has been pointed out that there may be InUniverse examples.
* PlotPivotPoint: Has few examples both on the page itself and in wicks. It's also not clear what its purpose is, since "What if X happened instead of Y at plot point Z?" is too speculative to be an objective trope, and even as a [[YMMV/HomePage YMMV]] concept it could potentially be too broad depending on how much is left up to speculation. The [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1559064564029242300&page=1 TRS thread that cut Plot Preassumption]] discovered that both were created by the same person at close to the same time, without YKTTW.
* SecondBanana: Created in 2008, but only has 9 on-page examples, 19 wicks, and 25 edits.
* SentOffToWorkForRelatives: Was launched in 2011 but is still struggling to gather wicks even after crosswicking. It has only 15 now. Some have suggested it might be due to the name being too narrow. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=i2var461uwn96yaxclhmnv2c Discussed here]].
* SeriesFic: Normally seventy wicks would be fine, but only thirty of them are from fanfic pages; series fics are also very common, and many of them have pages here, so this not having more is very concerning.
* TheYellowMShoutOut: Doesn't have very many wicks, and would probably work better as a ReferencedBy subpage (ReferencedBy.TheYellowM).
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[[folder:Poor title]]
* CaughtInTheRain: The title doesn't hint in any way that it has to lead to kissing or sex. However, RomanticRain is supposed to be the variant that leads to kissing or sex. Compare sister tropes SnowedIn (which doesn't lead to kissing or sex) and SnowMeansLove (which does).
* ChainedToARock has confusing between a character literally chained to a rock, and a character tied up for sacrifice. The trope is actually the latter, but attracts examples for the former (because that's what the title says).
* CityInABottle: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1446398520077030400 Two]] [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1585676763018488800 threads]] have had difficulty picking images because this trope has a misleading name -- it can be confused for literal cities in bottles.
* CommonNewspaperWords: No on-page examples (barring [[Administrivia/ExamplesAreNotGeneral general examples]]), and not thriving. May also count as a meaningless {{stock phrase|s}}.
* DestroyTheEvidence. Did you think this trope was actually about destroying the evidence? Nope! This is (meant to be) specifically and only about evidence that is (1) about someone else, and (2) could be given to the authorities specifically. Needless to say the page has examples (and an image) relating to destroying evidence in general.
* DroppedGlasses: The trope is narrower than the name suggests, and examples are a mixture of dropped glasses being stepped on and dropped glasses causing problems. On ImagePickin, it was [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1586323264075026100&page=1#comment-2 suggested by a mod]] that this be taken to TRS due to the trope's clarity issues.
* EinsteinSue: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=87476&type=att See here]]. "Character with no expertise knows the solution when experts don't" is a valid trope, but because of the "Sue" in its name, the name seems too negative, and not every character who has this happen to them is automatically a MarySue.
* FemaleFlatfootAndSnarkyGuy: A "flatfoot" is generally either somebody that has trouble walking due to a medical condition, or somebody who is too surprised to react. A since-pulled image does match this definition, too. Usage of the word "flatfoot" to refer to police officers, as with the trope name, appears to be archaic and thus is probably unknown in modern day, resulting in a confusing trope name -- the trope has nothing to do with either of the word's modern-day definitions.
* GreenRocks, it is unclear what this trope actually ''is'', compared to other tropes like the X Can Do Anything series, {{Unobtainium}}, and AppliedPhlebotinum. The examples on the page are all over the place and contain things like inherent powers, plot devices, etc. It could use some cleaning up, and a title like "green rocks" (and a long-standing image of literal green rocks) probably doesn't help. Effectively, "a substance that can do anything the plot needs" is the exact same thing as AppliedPhlebotinum.
* HenchmenRace for some reason requires the bad guy to have personally created this race. That's not indicative from the title, and probably attracts "wrong" examples.
* ILoveNuclearPower is not about loving Nuklear Power. It is about getting beneficial mutations and/or superpowers from nuclear material. All of its sister tropes are instead named "X Can Do Anything".
* TheImp: The title is too broad for the concept it's meant to cover: a vice-ridden, non-threatening creature often tied to a more powerful character. Unsurprisingly, it attracts examples of all imp-like creatures.
* JoinTheArmyTheySaid: The trope is about military recruitment adverts, but the dialogue-based title makes it sound like RecruitersAlwaysLie.
* LadyInRed: The title merely means female characters in red, never mentioning that the character has to be "sexual"
* MailerDaemon: The title is a highly technical term; it refers to an automatic computer program that handles e-mail, but readers cannot be expected to know that.\\
In addition, the term doesn't appear to be particularly common on modern computers -- on Wikipedia, "mailer daemon" redirects to the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounce_message Bounce message]] article instead of having an independent article, and searching for "mailer daemon" in the software repositories for at least one [[UsefulNotes/{{UNIX}} Linux]] distribution (in this case, Manjaro Linux) provides no results, compared to how searching for just "daemon"[[note]]the term for background processes on Unix and Unix-like [=OSes=], including modern versions of UsefulNotes/MacOS[[/note]] produces a very long list of results.
* {{Nosebleed}}: Name is too generalized for a trope referring to nosebleeds resulting from sexual arousal.
* TheObiWannabe: Redundant snowclone of The Obi-Wan, which was determined to be a duplicate of MentorArchetype and turned into a redirect to it.
* PyramidPower is a mixture of "pyramids have a mystical power", "pyramids were built by aliens", "pyramids were built by ''slaves''", and "this work contains a pyramid". The last of these is obviously PSOC, but the trope description is such a mess that it's not clear which of the first three is meant.
* SchoolForScheming, as the trope description points out, isn't actually a school for scheming. Rather, it means that the school is a coverup for a scheme. So the trope name means something very different than the trope does (and the description is required to point out "yes, the name really refers to an AcademyOfEvil".
* TheScream. Well of ''course'' this page isn't simply about screams. It is instead a highly specific trope of "massively zoomed out shot of a scream". Predictably, a good amount of the examples are "somebody screams in this work".
* ShamelessFanserviceGirl: While the Trope is intended to be about rejecting the nudity taboo (note that NoNudityTaboo is an index and not a trope), its title has led people to believe that it's about characters who embrace their sexuality, which is covered by several FanserviceTropes.
* StockShoujoBullyingTactics: Despite its name, the trope is not actually specific to Japanese works -- going by the on-page examples, its usage in anime and manga isn't even exclusive to {{Shoujo}}.
* StringTheory: Misuse of a preexisting term for an unrelated concept (see also [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory]]). Said topic is possibly UsefulNotes-worthy.
* ToTheBatNoun: Misleading title leads it to be confused with {{Hyperaffixation}}; [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1520731157047264800 TRS thread stalled out]]
* TrojanGauntlet: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1596035975056884100&page=1 On Image Pickin']], it was discovered that the page has a CreatorProvincialism issue -- the "Trojan" in the name refers to a brand of condom that's unknown outside the US, so the name ends up sounding like a reference to the TrojanHorse. The actual trope is "Embarrassing Condom Purchase".
* VanillaProtagonist: Previously renamed from Designated Protagonist Syndrome because of complaining, but continues to attract complaining. In the new name's case, it's often used to complain about protagonists thought to be boring, when it's actually about protagonists who are intentionally less defined for the sake of making supporting characters stand out more. Its summary on the AudienceReactions index gave the wrong definition at one point, and the fact that it's indexed under AudienceReactions to begin with, rather than YMMV.HomePage, has also been questioned, since the character is objectively in the work, and the subjective part is whether the character does in fact help supporting characters stand out more.\\
A previous TRS thread was made, with a wick check demonstrating misuse to mean boring protagonists. The thread clocked out without any changes being made, despite support in favor of cleaning up complaining, but there was support for renaming; Enabling Protagonist was one suggestion given as a replacement name.
* WildGooseChase is supposed to be the highly-specific trope that somebody discovers a tracker device (e.g. on his car) and attaches it to a random other car or object, thus making the signal useless in a funny way. Predictably, this gets misused for, well, what the phrase "WildGooseChase" normally means, or characters saying the phrase. The phrase should arguably be a redirect to SnipeHunt, and this trope should be renamed. It appears to be not thriving either, which may be caused by the name not matching the content.
* {{Wimpification}}: Name is nonindicative of its meaning (a strong character is turned weak in fanfiction in order to serve the submissive position in a {{slash|fic}} relationship), and can be easily confused for BadassDecay due to the dictionary definitions of "wimp". [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1593612732032518300 An unfinished thread for this, which was moved to the Morgue.]] The trope was originally named "{{Uke}}fication", a more explicit reference to fanfiction practices and terminology, but the name was changed after efforts to minimize the use of Japanese terminology in trope names.
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[[folder:Actually subjective]]
* AluminumChristmasTrees: The concept is based on the presence of things in fiction (such as the trope namer) that audiences think are fictional, but actually aren't. Audience assumptions are usually classified as YMMV, but Aluminum Christmas Trees ''isn't'' classified as YMMV, despite this factor, especially since the assumption that examples are fictional may not be the reason for their presence. In particular, the trope namer is thought to be fictional by ''modern'' viewers, not contemporary viewers. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15804296820A98500000 Relevant Trope Talk discussion.]]
* BrokenAesop: The trope is listed as an objective trope. However, given it is a bad writing trope, perhaps it would be better served as a YMMV trope.
* EarlyGameHell: In 2020, DifficultySpike was made YMMV because difficulty spikes in video games affect different players in different ways. EarlyGameHell operates on the same principle as DifficultySpike in that it involves the game's difficulty changing as the game progresses, except instead of the game getting harder at a certain point, the game starts out hard due to the player character being weaker (such as having lower stats or lacking good equipment), and gets easier as the player character gets stronger. How the change in difficulty affects a given player will depend on their level of experience with the game, the series, or the game's genre as a whole. In addition, the name already sounds subjective in describing the early parts of the game as hellish.
* FanWorkOnlyFans: Only 19 wicks and no on-page examples as of May 16, 2020, and describes fan reactions instead of an objective trope, despite not being classified as YMMV.
* InterruptingMeme: A subtrope of the YMMV MemeticMutation, meaning it's about something that happens outside of the work itself, but it's classified as objective for some reason. Most of the examples are pretty badly written as well.
* MoralDissonance: "[T]he result of having a hero who has a double standard and the narrative fails to address or even comment on it. It can include any unintentional DoubleStandard on the hero's part that becomes obvious to the viewer during a [[FridgeLogic walk to the fridge.]]"
* NintendoHard: A very hard video game.
* PoesLaw: A work of satire that is mistaken for serious, or a serious work that is mistaken for satire. Audiences misunderstanding a work is subjective, since ''some'' people are bound to correctly tell is a work is satire or serious. Even the (poorly-enforced) demand for proof of people being confused by the work doesn't make it an objective trope, as UnfortunateImplications shows, and the mistaking is not something that happens in the work itself. Even "at least one major source has accidentally misunderstood the work's intentions" would be Trivia.
* RefrainFromAssuming: Classified as objective, despite being about listeners getting a song's title wrong because of a guess based on the lyrics -- the title of the song [[NonAppearingTitle may not even be in the lyrics]]. For example, the page quote (as of August 15, 2020), "Baba O'Riley" by Music/TheWho being mistakenly referred to as "Teenage Wasteland", is based on an {{Audience Reaction|s}} for a song with a NonAppearingTitle.
* SeriesFauxnale: Defined as "an episode that feels like the end, and possibly was originally going to be the end.", which sounds a lot like a YMMV (or possibly a Trivia, but that would require a definition change, which would take a bit more work).
* TooAwesomeToUse: "Powerful consumable item" is a trope. "I can't use the powerful consumable item because then I won't have it anymore, what if I need it later?" is an audience reaction. TooAwesomeToUse doesn't seem to know which of those things it is.
* TooGoodToLast: Based on how a work was received, yet not classified as YMMV, and it's not IUEO either.
* TotallyRadical: The description and examples focus a lot on how the audience perceives the work, but the trope is listed as objective and isn't IUEO either.
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[[folder:Redundant / Overlaps with another trope]]
* AllMenAreRapists is Administrivia/TheSameButMore to AllMenArePerverts.
* AwesomenessMeter is the same thing as IdiosyncraticComboLevels. Or at least, no distinction between the two is apparent from the trope description.
* BluntMetaphorsTrauma appears to be the same thing as {{Malaproper}}. Several examples (including the page quote for the former) are on both pages, and the description doesn't indicate what (if anything) the difference is.
* LongBusTrip is Administrivia/TheSameButMore to PutOnABus, in that the latter is when a character is explicitly written out of the series with a logical way to return, and the former concerns a character who is explicitly written out with a logical way to return, but never comes back. Many examples are also duplicates.
* CatchPhraseSpoutingDuo: Poorly-defined trope with ZCE problems; doesn't sound distinct enough from {{Catchphrase}}, TotallyRadical, or ThoseTwoGuys.
* CharacterFilibuster, predictably enough, gets used for characters who filibuster in-universe; but that's actually the trope HoldingTheFloor. CharacterFilibuster is a complicated construction where a story is set up ''so that'' a character can be HoldingTheFloor for an unrealistic time ''in order to'' deliver an AuthorFilibuster. That ''probably'' shouldn't be a distinct trope.
* ContinuitySnarl and SeriesContinuityError -- Snarl is clearly meant to be for "bigger" continuity issues, but the boundary between the two is not well defined. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15895515620A81536500 Trope Talk thread]].
* DeadFic's only distinction from OrphanedSeries seems to be being about fanfiction, which is not typically considered a true trope distinction.
* {{Featurization}}: A poorly-performing duplicate of CompilationMovie that is incorrectly listed as a {{Administrivia/DefinitionOnlyPage|s}}.
* ForgotFlandersCouldDoThat: An obscure title, and the trope itself is problematic as just being "a character did something they originally did before", and appears redundant to CharacterCheck. Discussed [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1582887315098930400 here]].
* FromNewYorkToNowhere is superfluous to TheCityVsTheCountry and CityMouse and CountryMouse. It tries to set itself apart by claiming that it only applies if the city is portrayed as inherently superior to the countryside, but TheCityVsTheCountry includes such depictions anyway.
* GoldenMoment and ScriptWank both seem to be the same "You know, I learned something today..." bit.
* GunKata has two "types", the first being fancy moves to minimize your vulnerable area against incoming shots, and the second being hand-to-hand combat where both parties try to shoot a gun while deflecting the other's gun hand. The issue is that the first of these is, for all practical purposes, identical to GunFu. The second is a subtrope of, but still distinct from, ShortRangeLongRangeWeapon.
* HeelFaceMole doesn't explain how (or if) it differs from FalselyReformedVillain.
* LeavingAudience: Covered by the younger but wick-healthier WalkingOutOnTheShow, the latter of which has a better name, too.
* NoImmortalInertia overlaps a lot with RapidAging. There should be a discussion on what, exactly, the difference is supposed to be, and either clean up examples or merge the two.
* NonLethalKO and OnlyMostlyDead seem to be pointing at the same "video game KO status" concept, with the only confirmable distinction being whether the game calls it "KO" or "dead", except that OnlyMostlyDead can be used outside of video games, somehow? [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15186611420A39555800&page=25#comment-625 Duplicate tropes thread]]
* {{Overdrive}} appears to be the exact same thing as NitroBoost, i.e. a temporary resource that makes vehicles go faster. Neither page mentions a clear distinction between the two.
* PinocchioNose and YouCanAlwaysTellALiar seem to be pointing at the same "person has a 'tell' for when they're lying" concept. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15186611420A39555800&page=24#comment-578 Duplicate tropes thread.]]
* RamblingOldManMonologue is the exact same thing as OldWindbag. The former has more wicks, but the latter has a better name, since it's gender-neutral and more clearly indicates that it's a character trope.
* TheRainMan overlaps heavily with IdiotSavant, and [[Film/RainMan suffers]] from Administrivia/TropeNamerSyndrome. Discussed [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16012241180A76966300&page=3#comment-56 here.]]
* RandomPowerRanking is PowerLevels except they're categories instead of numbers. It's not clear how that distinction is enough to justify two tropes. RandomPowerRanking is also misused for power ranks that are in fact random (e.g. trading cards that assign entirely-arbitrary numbers to the characters depicted, with no basis from the fiction itself).
* RiverOfInsanity: the trope isn't actually about rivers but about any trip, and attracts misuse based on that. Its redirect DoomedExpedition covers the content better, but it still appears to be identical to CabinFever (which is the same trope but restricted to ships, for some reason).
* DarthWiki/RuinedForever: It's been pointed out [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13327578050A72722200&page=110#comment-2731 in the complaining cleanup thread]] that it's often used as a less strict version of DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck, since you don't have to sign your entries, can add as many examples as you want, and are encouraged to write in a completely emotional tone with no attempt at objectivity. The former Darth Wiki page Wall Bangers was sent to the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub exactly because "DMOS but with less restrictions" was redundant and allowed unrestrained complaining.
* SouvenirEdition: Only 1 wick (the index PrintMediaTropes), and redundant to LimitedSpecialCollectorsUltimateEdition.
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[[folder:People Sit on Chairs]]
* {{Cephalothorax}}: Similar to a {{Personal Appearance Trope|s}}. Most on-page examples are [=ZCEs=].
* GenderNeutralNarrator: "Narrator doesn't have a gender because it's not important". If it's not important, is it really a trope?
* InfiniteOneUps is not a trope. That any game with 1-ups allows you to farm them is a natural consequence of having 1-ups (even if placed without forethought), making this trivia at best and cutlist material at worst.
* TheMaster: This is a list of characters named "the master". That is not a trope; it is a list of unrelated things that happen to have the same name.
* NamesTheSame: This page is for when two characters in unrelated works coincidentally have the same name. A lot of the examples aren't even that; they instead point out any time two works use a generic word to refer to something, even if the two uses aren't related. The description even says that the page is essentially "ShoutOut, but averted"; aversions of that trope aren't generally notable, as it's not {{omnipresent|Tropes}} in any genre or medium.\\
Counterpart Comparison's definition ("characters from unrelated works draw comparisons from fans") was relatively similar to that of NamesTheSame ("characters from unrelated works have identical names, regardless their other traits"), but ''narrower'' in scope, and it was deemed redundant with and redirected to JustForFun/SurprisinglySimilarCharacters. Moving NamesTheSame from Trivia to JustForFun has been discussed on AskTheTropers; such a move was done by the thread for JustForFun/OneOfUs.
* PhoneBooth: This is an obvious case of Administrivia/PeopleSitOnChairs, but multiple proper tropes are buried in this mess.
* SaiGuy: Based on the laconic, it seems to think that using sais as weapons is trope-worthy; their use as primary weapons would probably already be covered by WeaponOfChoice. To its credit, it points out how much ArtisticLicense is used in sai-wielding, but presumably there is a trope which covers artistic license as it applies to melée combat with any weapon, or even without a weapon.
* SecondYearProtagonist: Attracts ZCE examples, as well as examples that are no more than "X is a sophomore". The freshman and senior struggles noted in the description can be tropeworthy concepts if not covered already.
* TurtlePower: Defined as "Turtles are Awesome", which would be an outdated "Everything's Better with Turtles" in all but name, complete with a load of "This work contains a turtle" examples and a few examples that overlap with TurtleIsland, WiseOldTurtle, or other subtropes. There are enough examples of "Turtles are powerful enough to be a powerful opponent or ally in battle", so perhaps the trope could be salvaged into "Badass Turtle".
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[[folder:Murky description/unclear meaning/other description issues]]
* AtlantisIsBoring: The description leads to three distinct concepts: InUniverse, characters have a hard time finding excitement underwater, out of universe, writers have a hard time writing media that takes place underwater, and a work that takes place underwater is found boring by the audience and critics. The last one is Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike '''BUT UNDERWATER!''', but the second could be split into its own trivia ("MostWritersAreLandlubbers").
* BonusLevelOfHeaven: It is unclear how this is supposed to be distinct from FluffyCloudHeaven. Is it the same but restricted to video games? Is it a subtrope where you actually attack heaven, as opposed to just being there? Is it, as the image suggests, any level ''named'' heaven? Or maybe we should merge the two. It's worth noting that [[ArtifactTitle its title]] is a {{snowclone}} of "Bonus Level of Hell", an old title for BrutalBonusLevel, and that the description mentioning that this is specifically for {{Bonus Dungeon}}s (despite many examples, including the page image, being about Heaven as a general {{Video Game Setting|s}}) is probably a holdover from that.
* BoomHeadshot: Description is quite clearly "headshots deal extra damage in this game", but examples are both that and "person dies of being shot in the head in any context", so there seems to be some MissingSupertrope Syndrome going on here.
* CutAndPasteTranslation: The title and laconic states the trope's meaning is supposed to be "slapping different parts of a work together in translation", while the description and examples make the trope look like example-allowed {{Macekre}}.
* DarkMessiah: The article uses words like "usually," "may (or may not)," and other similar words/phrases in the description, making exactly what one is ambiguous--or at the very least make this a flexible trope. The diversity in the listed examples adds further confusion on what a dark messiah actually is. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15986010560A88690800&page=1 Trope Talk thread here]]. [[Sandbox/DarkMessiahDescriptionCleanUp Description cleanup Sandbox here]].
* DumbDodoBird: Due to a paragraph in the description, which says that the dodo doesn't actually have to be stupid despite the trope name, the definition is technically Administrivia/PeopleSitOnChairs ("this work contains a dodo"). This paragraph has been there since the page's launch (which was done without YKTTW), and removing it would fix the problem. Per [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=55365&type=att this ATT query]], WordOfMod is that TRS is needed to do this.
* EditingWorks: Nonstandard design. The concept (applying edits to raw footage) is very broad, like "hand-eye coordination".
* ExtremeSportExcusePlot: As noted in the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13327578050A72722200&page=126#comment-3149 complaining cleanup thread]], the definition is overly negative, and it's possible the title could use a touchup as well.
* FantasticAesop: Complainy description that reads more like a PlayingWith subpage. There are also issues documented on its discussion page going back years. Discussed in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1589816603065137300&page=10#comment-227 the TRS thread]] that renamed the Bad Writing Index to the WritingPitfallIndex and locked it.
* GoodIsImpotent: The definition used on the page is when a character is [[LiteralSplitPersonality split into their "good" and "evil" halves]], and the evil one is more effective than the good one. However, many examples describe good-aligned characters in general being ineffective.
* HigherSelf: The page describes a superego type concept, but combines both "moral" and "objective" judgements. Also incorrectly listed on Administrivia.DefinitionOnlyPages.
* KnifeNut: "Character uses a knife" could be redundant with WeaponOfChoice at best and Chairs at worst, but at least one mod has claimed that the trope is about characters who ''fetishize'' knives, which would work as a characterization trope in addition to being sufficiently distinct from WeaponOfChoice. Despite this, the description doesn't make it clear it's more specific than a character simply wielding a knife, and at least one TropeTalk thread was started to figure out the trope's definition.
* MetroSpecificUnderworld: Just a list of stereotypes of gangs for specific areas, no explanation of the significance of the trope; has a non-standard page format. Also a poorly performing trope incorrectly listed as a {{Administrivia/DefinitionOnlyPage|s}}.
* MindRape: The trope seems to have multiple definitions. The first paragraph describes it as a mental/psychic attack to one's mind that is [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything likened]] to actual {{rape|AsDrama}} due to the violation and exploitation of vulnerabilities involved. Then in goes on to include any other forms of torture (including [[ColdBloodedTorture physical]], [[BreakThemByTalking verbal]], and actual rape) that ends up breaking the victim's mind, (usually) causing them to go insane.
* MisterXAndMisterY: Trope concept potentially overlaps with old definition of ThoseTwoBadGuys (redefined by another TRS effort). Description is brief and vague.
* NeutronBomb: Cannot decide whether it is a UsefulNotes page or a trope, and whether that trope is "[[ArtisticLicenseNuclearPhysics Neutron bombs being portrayed inaccurately]]", "[[Administrivia/PeopleSitOnChairs Neutron bombs appear in this work]]", or "[[DepopulationBomb WMDs that kill people but leave structures intact]]".\\
A previous TRS thread clocked out due to inactivity; there were requests for a wick check to see how it's being used on other pages, but none was provided.
* SetAMookToKillAMook: The "status effect" variant and the "circular firing squad" variant are different enough that they should be split, or at least made internal subtropes.
* VampireVannabe. The page name and image suggest that this is a character pretending to be a vampire even though he's obviously not; the description suggests that this is a character sycophantically hanging out with real vampires in the hope that they'll turn him into one. That's hardly the same trope.
* ZombieAdvocate. The page is a mixture of three distinct concepts: humans advocating for ''actual monsters'' (as the title and description suggest); humans advocating for ''any non-human'' (as the page image suggests); and non-humans advocating for ''their own race'' (e.g. a goblin campaigning for goblin rights).
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[[folder:Complaining/Misc single tropes (doesn't fit another folder)]]
* CharacterShilling: Attracts complaining and descriptions of audience reactions, despite being classified as an objective trope.
* CIAEvilFBIGood: Cannot decide whether it is supposed to be examples of evil CIA agents (a better title for which would be "Insidious Intelligence"), noble FBI agents (PSOC), vice versa (evil FBI would go to "Filthy Feds", while noble CIA agents are PSOC). Possibly needs to be expanded to apply to any law enforcement agency being compared to another in terms of morality ("Black and White Law Enforcement").
* CluelessAesop: Suffers from misuse and subjectivity. Misuse because it's supposedly a work that ''can not'' possibly make its message work because of what the work itself is (for example, a kids' show that tries to give a DrugsAreBad Aesop when its age rating forbids it from properly tackling that subject), but many examples are just works that fail to make their Aesop work for any reason, [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike including just plain poor writing]]. It's subjective because most of the examples also explain the impact the "cluelessness" has on the work, which often involves passing judgment on its quality, and "this work couldn't possibly have made its message work" is often arguable: yes, a kids' show that tries to deal with mature themes might fail, but some ''have'' successfully done so. Plus, similar to BrokenAesop (see the "Actually Subjective" folder), "This work failed to deliver its intended moral" might be subjective.
* DamnYouMuscleMemory: "Different games' control schemes result in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_transfer_(memory) negative transfer]]" is a clear enough definition, but there's no ''scope'' to it -- as currently written, if playing ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossingNewLeaf'' somehow caused someone to push the wrong buttons in ''VideoGame/{{Hatred}}'', it'd be as valid of an example as if it caused someone to push the wrong buttons in ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossingWildWorld''. Relatedly, it probably should be YMMV.
* DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=92519&type=att It's been discussed]] on AskTheTropers that there should be a blacklist or rule for banning works with large hatedoms (such as the late DethroningMoment.MyBravePonyStarfleetMagic and DethroningMoment.TheKingOfHate). WordOfMod is that TRS is needed to discuss potential policy changes for DMOS.
* DrPediaAndMrTrope: The page is supposed to be about differing editing philosophies between Wiki/TVTropes and Wiki/{{Wikipedia}}, and is currently listed as a {{Wiki Trope|s}}. There was some discussion in the Outdated Pages thread about moving it to either JustForFun or {{Administrivia}} instead of staying in [=Main/=] (with the former being suggested due to the page's humorous tone), and it was pointed out that several tropers regularly edit both wikis productively, but the discussion stalled out without any action being taken.
* EuphemismTreadmill: A redirect to PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad that should probably redirect to HaveAGayOldTime instead, since the latter page actually discusses the euphemism treadmill in the description. A since-closed TRS thread discussed changing the redirect's target, but clocked out due to a lack of consensus; crowners were not working when the thread was open, so gauging consensus was difficult at the time. The discussion may be worth revisiting since the previous thread's technical issues were resolved.
* FamousLastWords: In practice, it's just a collection of ''every'' character's last words, regardless of how notable the character is or how famous the words are, or in other words, this is just "character says thing before they die". Additionally, this seems to be objective and subjective phenomena lumped into one, where "famous" could be InUniverse or the [[AudienceReactions audience's reaction]] to the line's "cool-ness." Discussed in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15794620060A54617700&page=1#16 a Trope Talk thread]] and in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=88175&type=att this ATT thread.]] There was a previous TRS effort [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1370871959056646200&page=1 in 2013,]] where making it JustForFun was discussed.
* FanHater: The trope is in contradictory categories -- it's classified as YMMV despite being Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly and Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease. Since it was made IUEO due to complaining, and since it's related to {{Hatedom}} (which is FlameBait; FanHater involves hatred of fans instead of the work), finishing the job of moving it out of YMMV would probably be better than removing its IUEO status.
* FanNickname: Classified as trivia, actually describes a fan reaction. Was moved from Main/ to Trivia/ on January 27, 2011, following a crowner but minimal discussion.
* FiveManBand: Debate over what the gender-ratio should be, and if there should even be a gender-ratio at all. Discussed often at [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13401353520A80460100 the cleanup thread]].
* GameplayAndStoryIntegration: Actually a redirect to SlidingScaleOfGameplayAndStoryIntegration, but it's frequently used as though it's a distinct trope -- most wicks are for the redirect and not sliding scale's main page. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=60177&type=att It's been pointed out]] that it ''was'' a separate trope at one point; revisiting this idea may be worth looking into.
* GenderFlip: Seems to be "Rule63 [[Administrivia/TheSameButMoreSpecific But Official]]", at least in how it's used throughout the site; part of the description notes the original character and their flipped adaptational counterpart need to be visually distinct in appearance if not entirely, but most examples list works that just flip the gender and change the name with changes to appearance minuscule beyond TertiarySexualCharacteristics, and multiple examples list characters that are not the same character after a supposed flip, but rather {{Distaff|Counterpart}} and {{Spear Counterpart}}s.
* HypotheticalCasting: Mix of trivia (creator opinions) and audience reactions.
* JuniorHigh: Not a trope, but rather a useful notes page (or perhaps something that should be merged/redirected/cut). The issue with the page is that it largely serves to explain how in many countries, "junior high" is the same thing as "high school"; and in fiction this applies as well, so high school tropes are the same as junior high tropes.
* {{Keigo}}: Information about the UsefulNotes/JapaneseLanguage is UsefulNotes material, Administrivia/NotATrope.
* LevelBreaker: No evidence that this term exists. Supposedly on Administrivia/DefinitionOnlyPages due to complaining, but there is no evidence for this.
* LoadsAndLoadsOfLoading is frequently used for [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining about loading times you can't stand]]. An Image Pickin' thread was started to change an image that wouldn't fuel this notion, but it would be better to give the trope a overhaul.
* MatchmakerGame: Apparently a genre index of some sort, consisting of three redlinks and a link to a trope page. Five total wicks (six counting the one produced by being on here), only one isn't to an index of some persuasion. Should probably be brought to the TRS so as to see if it needs to go through the TLP, especially considering it's been completely ignored since it appeared in 2010.
* MistyMay: There were multiple posts in the Outdated Pages thread in favor of moving it to JustForFun, since it's more of a game than a regular {{Audience Reaction|s}}, but since the thread was created for refining pages for site policies (which may include moving pages for Main to {{Administrivia}}), moving pages to JustForFun is outside the thread's scope.\\
Since MistyMay is about gauging instances of {{Gainaxing}}, the page is essentially a game intended for works featuring {{Gainaxing}}; JustForFun/HolyShitQuotient was moved to JustForFun by TRS because it's a game for gauging the amount of ShockingMoments in a work.
* {{Mummers}}: As-is, this is a genre/format, but it's be almost impossible to find examples and it would be impossible to make pages for those works. It has been suggested that the definition be isolated to InUniverse examples, like SchoolPlay, because examples could be found that way.
* OurPresidentsAreDifferent: A trope clump of different "President+X" concepts which could be tropable in their own right, and some of which are already their own tropes.
* PolishTheTurd: Blatantly subjective, potentially to the point of being FlameBait, but classified as objective without being Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly. Examples are mostly [[Administrivia/ExamplesAreNotGeneral general examples]] that could potentially apply to several works but don't mention any, awkwardly mixed with work-specific and in-universe examples. There's also a folder for tropes; WritingPitfallIndex (previously Bad Writing Index) and ScrappyIndex were brought to TRS in 2020 for complaining issues. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1483351216000577300&page=1 There was a thread]] in 2017, but it clocked out without any changes being made; however, a decision to make it Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly had to be overturned because there weren't enough in-universe examples for it to work.
* PolygonCeiling: Seems to be "VideoGame3DLeap but bad", which is redundant ("trope X done badly" is Administrivia/TheSameButMore, since Administrivia/TropesAreTools), complainy, and isn't tagged YMMV due to [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1304249295051827700&page=1 this 2011 TRS thread]] which rewrote the description and removed it from YMMV on the basis that it would be redundant to JumpingTheShark if it was subjective; JumpingTheShark itself has since been made Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15186611420A39555800&page=29#704 Duplicate tropes thread]].
* TheProblemWithPenIsland: Features a mixture of in-universe examples and examples that were noticed by fans, but either weren't pointed out in the work, or aren't stated to have been pointed out in the work. The trope is neither Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly nor [[YMMV/HomePage YMMV]].
* RelationshipVoiceActor: Inherited the problems of HeyItsThatVoice and HeyItsThatGuy, which were cut for being treated more like games for editors than actual trivia. Also tends to have terribly written examples that reek of FanMyopia and contain excessive use of sinkholing.
* SelfInsertFic: It's been discussed [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13226024250A77804400&page=95#comment-2373 in the ZCE thread]] that this trope is hard to contextualize without diving in to troping the author themself (Administrivia/{{Auto Erotic|Troping}} or otherwise), and seems to be conflating a few related concepts. Perhaps turning it into a genre index would help alleviate this.
* ShoutOutToShakespeare: No longer a trope -- it's a redirect to a ReferencedBy subpage for Creator/WilliamShakespeare (ReferencedBy.WilliamShakespeare). Despite this, it still has several wicks, and since the target page is in the [=ReferencedBy/=] namespace, doing Administrivia/WickNamespaceMigration from Main.ShoutOutToShakespeare to ReferencedBy.ShoutOutToShakespeare (with wicks pointing to ReferencedBy.WilliamShakespeare instead) would keep inbounds while preventing it from being used as a trope. Compare the Main.HowDoIUsedTense redirect to UsefulNotes.{{Tenses}} being moved to UsefulNotes.HowDoIUsedTense.
* SilenceIsGolden: Brought up in the TRS thread for [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1595893051094554000&page=2#41 Lull Destruction]] (now called FillingTheSilence), and was seen as potentially gushy.
* SixDegreesOfKevinBacon: This is a game and not a trope, so it would probably be better suited to JustForFun instead of Main/.
* SpellMyNameWithAnS: Used for a mixture of varying official spellings and differing fan spellings of names from works, particularly from works originally in a language that doesn't use the Latin alphabet (such as Japanese). Since it's an objective trope, it would ideally be used for the former (i.e., official materials giving different spellings of name name at different points). Fan spellings would probably be a better fit for a separate {{Audience Reaction|s}}.\\
There was an attempt at a TRS thread to clean up fan spellings, but it was locked in a New Year's purge during the cleanup phase.
* {{Sting}}: The name is {{Scriptspeak}}, but that seems to cover an extremely broad variety of musical cues. Many of the examples are about the "Dun dun DAH!" variety, but others are just {{Scare Chord}}s and the description also mentions {{Rimshot}}. Might this be better split into more specific subtropes?
* ThereAreNoTherapists: Defined in the negative, like the now-cut Nobody Over 50 Is Gay. While it isn't indexed under Administrivia/NoStraightExamplesPlease, it's listed as a [[TropesInAggregate trope in aggregate]] like Nobody Over 50 Is Gay, and it has a lot of aversions (which Nobody Over 50 Is Gay was ''solely'' for). Aversions may be redundant with TheShrink, which is for when therapists ''do'' appear.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Attracts a lot of complaining and dubious examples, which includes examples of characters who weren't meant to be sympathetic (i.e. they were called out by the other characters, the other characters don't forgive their actions, etc.), characters with understandable motives or goals but were intentionally written to be morally questionable, and characters that one portion of the fandom found unsympathetic while others sympathized with them, meaning the reaction wasn't universal (better suited for BaseBreakingCharacter or BrokenBase). It also attracts examples of straight-up character bashing that don't explain how the character was supposed to be seen as intentionally sympathetic. Criteria has been discussed in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15194292110A03429900&page=1 its cleanup thread]].
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[[folder:Multiple tropes]]
* AlohaHawaii and HulaAndLuaus: In the TRS thread that renamed Olive Garden to SpaghettiAndGondolas, a mod wondered if people might be misusing the former using the definition of the latter; the former is a plot trope related to vacations to Hawaii, and the latter is a setting trope for stereotypical depictions of Hawaii.
* AnimationAgeGhetto ("cartoons exist that are not for children") is essentially the same as WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids ("works that people THINK are for children but are really not") except the former is limited to cartoons and the latter is for any kind of work. And then there is WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids, which ''sounds'' like sarcasm mode for the exact same thing, and it's really "works that ''the marketing department'' THINK are for children but are really not". Oh, and WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForLittleGirls is the same thing but limited to ''female'' kids. So we have four unclearly-named pages dealing with more-or-less the same concept. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1597010610001425500&page=1#comment-19 This post]] from a mod on ImagePickin, while not marked as being posted with the mod hat on, said that WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids and WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids in particular are overdue for TRS threads, with wick checks being necessary for both.
* BestBossEver and BestLevelEver: Both are redirects to subpages, the former to AwesomeBosses.VideoGames, and the latter to Awesome.VideoGameLevels, but both are often treated as though they're AudienceReactions in their own right. In addition, redirects to SugarWiki/SugarWiki pages are usually placed in [=SugarWiki/=] -- multiple [=Main/=] redirects to [=SugarWiki=] pages have been cut due to the auto-disambig system.
* Many subtropes for TheCon: When Fake Mark is undergoing TRS, it is revealed that there are many subtropes with less than 30 wicks. The list of affected subtropes can be found [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1598918282011814500&page=1#comment-5 in this post]].
* DirtyCommunists and RedScare: The difference between these two tropes is not very clear. The former's description is UsefulNotes/ColdWar-specific, though the page quote and some of the examples aren't about that.
* DontTryThisAtHome and DoNotAttempt: Ridiculously similar in generic usage, even though the {{Stock Phrase}}s they are named for come from different contexts (the "less-than-realistic" distinction is a bit weak).
* DracoInLeatherPants and RonTheDeathEater: Multiple problems, from people being unsure if it's about something subjective or objective, the tropes heavily overlapping with AdaptationalHeroism and AdaptationalVillainy, and the concern of [[Administrivia/ExamplesAreNotGeneral general examples]] with no cited fanfics or whether such examples are general in the first place, as YMMV is meant to be an overview of a fandom's thoughts and usually doesn't require citations that something happens. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15482801450A64384000 Discussed on this Trope Talk thread.]] and on [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15773169810A80654300&page=1 this Projects: Short-Term thread]].
* EasierThanEasy and HarderThanHard: There is confusion on whether these mean "one difficulty level is called 'easy'/'hard' and another is ''even easier''/''harder''" (i.e. literally what the titles mean), or it means "a level so easy that losing is impossible"/"a level so hard that losing is inevitable" (as the descriptions suggest), or if both are simply redundant to IdiosyncraticDifficultyLevels (which several examples suggest).
* FaceHeelTurn and FallenHero: Brought up in [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1590293785059243700&page=1#comment-1 this declined thread]], The latter is either the same as or a Administrivia/SameButMoreSpecific version of the former, as both tropes concern heroes becoming villains.
* IndecipherableLyrics and SomethingSomethingLeonardBernstein: Both are about lyrics that are barely intelligible, if at all. The only clear difference between the two is that one or two lyrics can be made out with the latter, while the former usually means the whole song is difficult to understand. It's also not clear how these are objective; whether lyrics are indecipherable depends on the listener, and the latter's description says to add the one or two lyrics that can generally be understood.
* "In Hindsight" AudienceReactions[[note]]FunnyAneurysmMoment, HarsherInHindsight, HeartwarmingInHindsight, and HilariousInHindsight[[/note]]: Frequently attract examples for coincidences that are either barely related or not related at all, and on AskTheTropers multiple people, including at least one mod, have wondered if these are worth keeping at all. %%Specific ATT queries should probably be linked to here.
* OfficialCouple and OfficialCoupleOrdealSyndrome: The former lacks much in the way of meaning or plot relevancy ("couples exist" is Chairs, and "official" is a meaningless distinction), and seems to only exist for fanatical shippers, while the latter doesn't amount to much more than "bad things happen to couples, except these couples are {{Official Couple}}s" and was made without YKTTW. Both are also indexed under ShippingTropes, at least as of August 13, 2020.
* OffscreenInertia and OffstageWaitingRoom: The description and examples of the former are heavily focused towards audience reactions, but is also written to emulate one of the Laws of Fiction. The latter specifically applies to separated plotlines, which is Administrivia/TheSameButMoreSpecific.
* OurTimeMachineIsDifferent and TimeMachine: Two versions of "plot-relevant time travel device". The better description is on TM, along with over 800 wicks. OTMID follows the OurTropesAreDifferent naming structure, but only has about 80 wicks. The respective pages don't even seem to be aware that the other page exists.
* "Tokenism" tropes, such as TheSmurfettePrinciple or TokenBlackFriend. There seems to be confusion about what being a "token" actually means, and it gets confused for when there's only one/two/etc minority characters in a work, regardless of why they're there or how the narrative treats them (for example, a lone female character in a work where the casting wasn't gender-based wouldn't count, as it's just incidental that the character happens to be a female / the ''only'' female. Meanwhile, if in that very same work one character was made gay specifically to be more progressive or representative, that character would be a Token gay character.) Would need an extensive wick check for at least a few of the tropes, if concerned over the whole batch.
* In light of [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1586236471092032000 the TRS thread for]] Bi The Way determining that "character is LGBT" isn't sufficient to constitute a trope, other tropes that fall under that description need to be looked at as well. {{Asexuality}}, {{Het}}, and {{Transgender}} probably need to be looked at. RomanticAsexual might be fine as-is. Be aware that a Administrivia/WickCheck will need to be done to prove that the problem actually ''applies'' here as well, [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1590537634033349200 previous]] [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1588552907041371900 threads]] were rejected for having ''only'' the similar definitions as their basis.
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[[folder:Tropes following deprecated practices (naming schemes, stock phrases, etc.)]]
* Tropes using the word "Trope" as a placeholder, a deprecated practice per Administrivia/NamingATrope (some tropes[[note]]Such as TheAdjectivalSuperhero, AdvancedTech2000, IAmTheNoun, and ParodiesForDummies[[/note]] have been renamed from such titles on these grounds):
** TheFantasticTropeOfWonderousTitles
** InWhichATropeIsDescribed
** TheScottishTrope
** TropeCoTropeOfTheWeek (not related to TropeCo/TropeCo)
** TheTropeFormerlyKnownAsX - [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1551152317026969600 said]] to be a worthy effort, but denied due to the backlog.
** TheTropeKid - also has possible issues with scope and context, as mentioned [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1571675147065429000 here]].
** TheTropeWithoutATitle
** TheVonTropeFamily
** Other titles that ''may'' fall under this:
*** DisneyOwnsThisTrope - noticeably also has a list of things Disney owns, much like how The Simpsons Did It (now ItsBeenDone) was used for things that happened on ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''.
*** OurLawyersAdvisedThisTrope
*** ThisSongGoesOutToTVTropes
*** TropaholicsAnonymous
*** TropeName (not related to JustForFun.TropeName)
*** TropeyComeHome
*** WellThisIsNotThatTrope
* StockPhrases and post-mid-2011 names that violate Administrivia/NoNewStockPhrases:
** AndYouThoughtItWasReal: Was launched in 2016, about five years after the Administrivia/NoNewStockPhrases policy was put in place, so it violates that policy. It also lacks wicks and is on PagesNeedingWicks.
** AsManyXAsThereAreY: Not thriving, on PagesNeedingWicks, and is a stock phrase.
** ForYourPeopleByYourPeople: Only 15 wicks in 9 years. The description is incredibly bare-bones, only consisting of one sentence and one related trope. It also appears to just be a list of quotes.
** IRejectYourReality: Commonly called [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism denialism]] in RealLife.
** ItWasThereTheWholeTime: Launched in 2016, after the implementation of the Administrivia/NoNewStockPhrases policy, but has a stock phrase-based name despite that. Also not thriving and doesn't appear to have gone through YKTTW.
** IveGotAnXAndImNotAfraidToUseIt: Old trope with only a few dozen wicks, plus reads like a list of quotes.
** TakingItWell: This seems to be a StockPhrase with no actual tropish definition.
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[[folder:Tropes brought to TLP Crash Rescue with no resolution there]]
[[Sandbox/TLPCrashRescueTallies Link to Crash Rescue sandbox]] for reference

* CastFromCalories and CastFromStamina: Duplicates of CastFromHP, same but more specific ("different meter, same mechanic")
* CasualSportsJersey: Not tropeworthy, too broad. Appearance-based trope.
* EverybodyLovesZeus: Bad snowclone of EverybodyHatesHades. Similar issues with the now-cut EverybodyHatesAres.
* FlirtatiousSmackOnTheAss: Two tropes in one.
* FrighteningPowerUsage: bad description
* MagicalGuide: Vagueness
* PovertyPorn: Name problem, bad examples
* RobotsAreJustBetter: Not tropeworthy, bad snowclone, description a general mess (both too broad and too vague)
* TokenImmortal: bad description ("this work has an immortal, but not every single character is immortal.")
* XMarksTheSpot: No clear issues with the definition, but the name violates the Administrivia/NoNewStockPhrases policy; the draft was originally started before the policy was put in place, but wasn't actually launched until 2019, about eight years after it was enacted. There's also some misuse that merely references the trope-naming phrase without actually fitting the definition.
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