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* HeroHarassesHelpers: The title makes it seem like this trope is about a hero pushing around {{the everym}}en or BadassNormal characters who get swept up in the plot, but it actually concerns the hero passively ''rejecting'' help, usually for pragmatic reasons (not wanting to endanger others, worrying that they'll be too much of an enabler, etc).

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* HeroHarassesHelpers: The title makes it seem like this trope is about a hero pushing around {{the everym}}en everym|an}}en or BadassNormal characters who get swept up in the plot, but it actually concerns the hero passively ''rejecting'' help, usually for pragmatic reasons (not wanting to endanger others, worrying that they'll be too much of an enabler, etc). *
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* HeroHarassesHelpers: The title makes it seem like this trope is about a hero pushing around {{the everym}}en or BadassNormal characters who get swept up in the plot, but it actually concerns the hero passively ''rejecting'' help, usually for pragmatic reasons (not wanting to endanger others, worrying that they'll be too much of an enabler, etc).
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* BeenThereShapedHistory and RealEventFictionalCause are both about fictional characters causing real events. The latter's name is more clear. *
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* MentorShip: Is a YMMV trope about fans shipping a mentor and a mentee, but many examples on its main page are canon ships between mentors and students (essentially being used like TeacherStudentRomance but with mentors as opposed to teachers.) The trope may need splitting between a YMMV trope for fanon ships and a Main trope for canon ones. *
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TRS proposal ready for Uh Oh Eyes


* UhOhEyes: Supposed to be a subindex, but there's no indication of that in the title; as a result, many have treated it as a trope. *
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* WhyWeCantHaveNiceThings: The description and examples can't seem to decide whether the trope is "misbehavior that has collective negative consequences for a group" or "valuable object gets destroyed". *
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* MysteriousAnimalSenses: The page only allows aversions and subversions, but it's not listed on Administrivia/NoStraightExamplesPlease. As discussed [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=17032774440.22554600&page=1#comment-16 here]], the original draft was about two distinct concepts: animals having senses that were on par with humans, and animals having better senses than humans in all regards. *

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* MysteriousAnimalSenses: The page only allows aversions and subversions, but it's not listed on Administrivia/NoStraightExamplesPlease. As discussed [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=17032774440.22554600&page=1#comment-16 here]], the original draft was about two distinct concepts: animals having senses that were are at least on par with humans, humans (which is covered by UnexpectedlyHumanPerception), and animals having better senses than humans in all regards. *
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* IAmNotShazam: Is about when the main character in the work is mistakenly called the title of the work. Was named after a character formerly known as Captain Marvel, but now that the character's name is actually Shazam, it makes the title confusing. *

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* IAmNotShazam: Is about when the main character in the work is mistakenly called the title of the work. Was named after a character formerly known as Captain Marvel, but now that the character's name is actually Shazam, it makes the title confusing. Also suffers from similar ZCE issues to ProtagonistTitleFallacy, in that the examples often don't explain how the audience makes the mistake. *
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* ProtagonistTitleFallacy: Supposed to be for when audiences correctly identify what character the title of the work is referring to, but wrongfully assume said character must be the protagonist because they're in the title. However, it gets misused as a Administrivia/TheSameButMoreSpecific version of IAmNotShazam that is about people misidentifying the name of the protagonist as the name in the title, even on the main trope page. *

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* ProtagonistTitleFallacy: Supposed to be for when audiences correctly identify what character the title of the work is referring to, but wrongfully assume said character must be the protagonist because they're in the title. However, it gets misused as a Administrivia/TheSameButMoreSpecific version of IAmNotShazam that is about people misidentifying the name of the protagonist as the name in the title, even on the main trope page. Even the examples that aren't explicitly misuse fail to explain how viewers mistake the title character for the protagonist. *
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* ProtagonistTitleFallacy: Supposed to be for when audiences correctly identify what character the title of the work is referring to, but wrongfully assume said character must be the protagonist because they're in the title. However, it gets misused as a TheSameButMoreSpecific version of IAmNotShazam that is about people misidentifying the name of the protagonist as the name in the title. *

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* ProtagonistTitleFallacy: Supposed to be for when audiences correctly identify what character the title of the work is referring to, but wrongfully assume said character must be the protagonist because they're in the title. However, it gets misused as a TheSameButMoreSpecific Administrivia/TheSameButMoreSpecific version of IAmNotShazam that is about people misidentifying the name of the protagonist as the name in the title.title, even on the main trope page. *
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* ProtagonistTitleFallacy: Supposed to be for when audiences correctly identify what character the title of the work is referring to, but wrongfully assume said character must be the protagonist because they're in the title. However, it gets misused as a TheSameButMoreSpecific version of IAmNotShazam that is about people misidentifying the name of the protagonist as the name in the title. *
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* IAmNotShazam: Is about when the main character in the work is mistakenly called the title of the work. Was named after a character formerly known as Captain Marvel, but now that the character's name is actually Shazam, it makes the title confusing. *
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Happy Birthday To You: Has a TRS draft now


* HappyBirthdayToYou: It's unclear if it's supposed to be about birthday songs in general, or if it's specifically WritingAroundTrademarks for the specific song "Happy Birthday to You" (prior to a lawsuit invalidating its copyright claim in 2015). *

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Tan Lines has a TRS draft; School For Scheming was checked and no confusion was found


* SchoolForScheming: The trope name reads like it's literally about schools for scheming. It's actually about schools that are ''coverups'' schemes. In fact, the trope name reads so ambiguously that the description is ''required'' to point out that it's not about any [[AcademyOfEvil Academies Of Evil]]. *



* TanLines: The description implies that this is some sort of characterization trope, but the title just indicates "tan lines exist" and tends to attract examples that aren't very clear on the trope's meaning. *


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* SchoolForScheming: It was thought that the trope name might be ambiguous with AcademyOfEvil, but a [[Sandbox/SchoolForSchemingWickCheck wick check]] found no such misuse.
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Taking this to the TRS Queue.


* DeadHorseGenre: The description refers to "a music genre critics hate on principle", but the name leads to a lot of examples about genres considered overexposed, as well as "dead horses" that were beaten to death years ago and are not very well liked nowadays. The "genre critics hate on principle" thing can probably be merged into CriticProof, and the other one is likely redundant with CondemnedByHistory. *
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* PublicDomain: A lack of copyright isn't really a trope, but it's still useful information to have on TV Tropes since the wiki has plenty of pages for works whose copyright has expired, along with some of the images that were chosen by Administrivia/ImagePickin not being copyrighted. Thus, it would probably be better suited to UsefulNotes than Main. Note that, if the page ''is'' moved to UsefulNotes, then it would need to be expanded and/or rewritten because it primarily focuses on American copyright law and doesn't sufficiently discuss UsefulNotes/FairUse. *

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* PublicDomain: A lack of copyright isn't really a trope, but it's still useful information to have on TV Tropes since the wiki has plenty of pages for works whose copyright has expired, along with some of the images that were chosen by Administrivia/ImagePickin not being copyrighted. Thus, it would probably be better suited to UsefulNotes than Main. Note that, if the page ''is'' moved to UsefulNotes, then it would need to be expanded and/or rewritten because it primarily focuses on American copyright law and doesn't sufficiently discuss UsefulNotes/FairUse.MediaNotes/FairUse. *
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* CoolOfRule: It's classified as an objective trope even though the idea that "something cool is even more cool if it is accomplished within an understood set of rules" reads like a subjective judgement. Also, it's starving at only 17 wicks. *
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* PanderingToTheBase: Whether this is about a cycle among creators who renew/{{retcon}} properties to sway audience opinion in general, or the audience ''themselves'' preferring ContinuityPorn and other story breakouts is unclear. If it's the latter, it may be redundant with AscendedFanon and WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants, and if its the former, it may need to be split. "Public domain works were OnceOriginalNowCommon in regards to the once-limited focus on shipping, and the creators omit historical accuracy to increase that focus" seems like Trivia, and "The audience will pay attention to retcons, but won't react to them unless they're in sync with a revival/renewal" seems more in line with what [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=yficepja&trope=PanderingToTheBase the YKTTW]] had in mind way back when. *

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* PanderingToTheBase: Whether this is about a cycle among creators who renew/{{retcon}} properties to sway audience opinion in general, or the audience ''themselves'' preferring ContinuityPorn and other story breakouts is unclear. If it's the latter, former, it may be redundant with AscendedFanon and WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants, and if its it's the former, latter, it may need to be split. "Public domain works were OnceOriginalNowCommon in regards to the once-limited focus on shipping, and the creators omit historical accuracy to increase that focus" seems like Trivia, and "The audience will pay attention to retcons, but won't react to them unless they're in sync with a revival/renewal" seems more in line with what [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=yficepja&trope=PanderingToTheBase the YKTTW]] had in mind way back when. *

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* MandelaEffect: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13543987200A54420100&page=883#comment-22053 Noted]] as attracting nitpicking misuse, along with being poorly-defined. Check 50 wicks. *

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* MandelaEffect: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13543987200A54420100&page=883#comment-22053 Noted]] as attracting nitpicking misuse, along with being poorly-defined.poorly-defined and being launched by a serial ban evader. Check 50 wicks. *


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* PanderingToTheBase: Whether this is about a cycle among creators who renew/{{retcon}} properties to sway audience opinion in general, or the audience ''themselves'' preferring ContinuityPorn and other story breakouts is unclear. If it's the latter, it may be redundant with AscendedFanon and WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants, and if its the former, it may need to be split. "Public domain works were OnceOriginalNowCommon in regards to the once-limited focus on shipping, and the creators omit historical accuracy to increase that focus" seems like Trivia, and "The audience will pay attention to retcons, but won't react to them unless they're in sync with a revival/renewal" seems more in line with what [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=yficepja&trope=PanderingToTheBase the YKTTW]] had in mind way back when. *
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* {{Expy}}: Supposedly, a character can be an {{Expy}} of another in the same franchise, which creates overlap with SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute, and neither trope's article clears up what the exact distinction is between both situations. Either {{Expy}} should be redefined to apply only when the character being copied and the character doing the copying are from completely separate works, leaving a same franchise copy to simply go under SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute; or a very clear distinction must be established (and added to both trope articles) between when exactly a character is a same franchise {{Expy}} and when exactly they are a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute. *
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I was probably supposed to do this when I added it, going off the person who added something shortly before I did.


* Level1MusicRepresents: Seeing the first level's music as the game's main theme (displacing the title screen's music in the process) is squarely an AudienceReaction, even in cases where later installments officially ascend the level 1 theme to main theme (as this is simply a response to the audience reaction). Even the page's own description acknowledges this as an audience driven process: "After all, chances are that people will spend more time on the first level learning the ropes rather than admiring the title screen".

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* Level1MusicRepresents: Seeing the first level's music as the game's main theme (displacing the title screen's music in the process) is squarely an AudienceReaction, even in cases where later installments officially ascend the level 1 theme to main theme (as this is simply a response to the audience reaction). Even the page's own description acknowledges this as an audience driven process: "After all, chances are that people will spend more time on the first level learning the ropes rather than admiring the title screen". *
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Per TRS, this is now an index and not a trope


* DiggingGame: No on-page examples have any context, so this page could easily be turned into an index. *
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* Level1MusicRepresents: Seeing the first level's music as the game's main theme (displacing the title screen's music in the process) is squarely an AudienceReaction, even in cases where later installments officially ascend the level 1 theme to main theme (as this is simply a response to the audience reaction). Even the page's own description acknowledges this as an audience driven process: "After all, chances are that people will spend more time on the first level learning the ropes rather than admiring the title screen".
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* DramaticHalfHour and DramaticHourLong: Both have been around since 2008, but only have 23 and 31 wicks, respectively. The latter doesn't even have any on-page examples!

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* DramaticHalfHour and DramaticHourLong: Both have DramaticHourLong has been around since 2008, 2008 but only have 23 and has 31 wicks, respectively. The latter wicks. It doesn't even have any on-page examples!
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* TakeThatIndex: Could definitely be included into TakeThat (much like it was done with the former index "Heroic Sacrifices" which was incorporated into HeroicSacrifice) and TakeThat be made into an index alongside the existing pages. *
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Trope was cut/disambiguated due to cleanup


* LongFormPromo: Failing to thrive (created in late 2009, only 3 wicks), may be a ForgottenTrope due to most examples of it occurring before 1990. Making the definition more general would likely make it collide with SuperBowlSpecial; as written, it could probably be merged with StationIdent.
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* BackstabBackfire: Meant to involve a ''literal'' backstab that backfires--more specifically, the villain taking another swing at the hero despite the former sparing their life, and getting immobilized/killed, but some on-page examples/the majority of examples off-page use it in the ''figurative'' sense (i.e. ChronicBackstabbingDisorder or ILied without any involvement of mercy), even if the backstabbing spans the whole story. It's also been used in cases where the villain is just a CombatPragmatist]=/=]CorneredRattlesnake, and isn't necessarily trying to get one last shot at the hero so much as trying to usurp them for a title or breaking out the big guns. The root issue seems to be a combination of the name not being indicative enough, and a Administrivia/MissingSupertrope, where a villain tries to invoke the role of a KarmicTrickster, but fails for obvious reasons. *

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* BackstabBackfire: Meant to involve a ''literal'' backstab that backfires--more specifically, the villain taking another swing at the hero despite the former sparing their life, and getting immobilized/killed, but some on-page examples/the majority of examples off-page use it in the ''figurative'' sense (i.e. ChronicBackstabbingDisorder or ILied without any involvement of mercy), even if the backstabbing spans the whole story. It's also been used in cases where the villain is just a CombatPragmatist]=/=]CorneredRattlesnake, CombatPragmatist[=/=]CorneredRattlesnake, and isn't necessarily trying to get one last shot at the hero so much as trying to usurp them for a title or breaking out the big guns. The root issue seems to be a combination of the name not being indicative enough, and a Administrivia/MissingSupertrope, where a villain tries to invoke the role of a KarmicTrickster, KarmicTrickster but fails for obvious reasons. *
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* TooSpicyForYogSothoth: Attracts examples of non-supernatural entities having their weak spot taken advantage of by one or more humans, but it's meant to be about a supernatural entity instantly holding a ''grudge'' or being otherwise repulsed upon coming into contact with a single human specifically, whatever this Yog had planned to do with them. *


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* BackstabBackfire: Meant to involve a ''literal'' backstab that backfires--more specifically, the villain taking another swing at the hero despite the former sparing their life, and getting immobilized/killed, but some on-page examples/the majority of examples off-page use it in the ''figurative'' sense (i.e. ChronicBackstabbingDisorder or ILied without any involvement of mercy), even if the backstabbing spans the whole story. It's also been used in cases where the villain is just a CombatPragmatist]=/=]CorneredRattlesnake, and isn't necessarily trying to get one last shot at the hero so much as trying to usurp them for a title or breaking out the big guns. The root issue seems to be a combination of the name not being indicative enough, and a Administrivia/MissingSupertrope, where a villain tries to invoke the role of a KarmicTrickster, but fails for obvious reasons. *

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