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* JumpingTheShark
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* YouFailLogicForever initially had a spin-off page (InsaneTrollLogic) for listing non-specific examples as the page had become rather bloated, and a release valve for non-specific examples was thought desirable (type 5). And then the original page was reorganized so that all the fallacies contained therein were spun off into their own pages (type 3), while the original spin-off had developed through a sort of reverse TropeDecay into a full trope in its own right [[note]]An argument so riddled with flaws as to enter the realm of either {{parody}} or PoesLaw[[/note]].
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* YouFailLogicForever LogicalFallacies (under its former name YouFailLogicForever) initially had a spin-off page (InsaneTrollLogic) for listing non-specific examples as the page had become rather bloated, and a release valve for non-specific examples was thought desirable (type 5). And then the original page was reorganized so that all the fallacies contained therein were spun off into their own pages (type 3), while the original spin-off had developed through a sort of reverse TropeDecay into a full trope in its own right [[note]]An argument so riddled with flaws as to enter the realm of either {{parody}} or PoesLaw[[/note]].
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* MurderersAreRapists: Which also part of RapeAndSexualHarrassmentTropes.
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* PerverseSexualLust -- also permalocked
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Cases of MarySue (Its very hotly debated nature on the Internet and ThisVeryWiki, along with a vague definition makes it excellent kindling for accusations of this. Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well.):
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Cases of MarySue (Its very hotly debated nature on the Internet and ThisVeryWiki, [[Wiki/TVTropes This Very Wiki]], along with a vague definition makes it excellent kindling for accusations of this. Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well.):
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* Move examples to another wiki entirely. This measure is rarely taken, but it ''has'' happened, usually for content that gets too family-unfriendly for our tastes. Examples include FetishFuel and PerverseSexualLust.
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* Move examples to another wiki entirely. This measure is rarely taken, but it ''has'' happened, usually for content that gets too family-unfriendly for our tastes. Examples include FetishFuel and PerverseSexualLust.
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* Cut and prohibit all examples from the page: The course of action for which this page is named -- what's left is a readable definition and some scar tissue saying "No examples please. This only defines the term." Everything else goes in the wastebasket. [[note]]Sometimes, the Example Sectionectomy is pre-emptive, as was the case in the launching of PetPeeveTrope. This is typically used on the pages of [[TropesAreNotBad tropes that actually ARE bad.]][[/note]]
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* Cut and prohibit all examples from the page: The course of action for which this page is named -- what's left is a readable definition and some scar tissue saying "No examples please. This only defines the term." Everything else goes in the wastebasket. [[note]]Sometimes, the Example Sectionectomy is pre-emptive, as was the case in the launching of PetPeeveTrope. This is typically used on the pages of [[TropesAreNotBad tropes that actually ARE bad.]][[/note]]
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GET AWAY FROM THIS PAGE AND STOP CALLING MY EDITS "VANDALISM", YOU DUMBASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS STUPID PAGE DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE ON TV TROPES, WHICH ISN'T FUCKNIG WIKIPEDIA AS ITS HOMEPAGE SAYS SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! D:<
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Sometimes, the example section of a page gets bloated. The reasons why vary, but we typically deal with it in one of these ways:
* Prune the examples: Editors review the example list looking for ones that are poorly written (or [[SquarePegRoundTrope off-topic]]) which can be removed from the page, leaving behind the good examples.
* Kill it with fire: Delete the entire article as having poor focus. If it's determined that we don't want the page to ever come back in any form either, it joins the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub.
* [[DivideAndConquer Create a set of subpages for it]]: Useful if the page is sufficiently popular, and also sufficiently objective, that deletion is undesirable. (The results may possibly be put under SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki/DarthWiki if not objective, and sufficiently popular and straightforward (e.g., SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible).)
* Leave the trope where it is, but make the example section a separate page, sometimes on the SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki/DarthWiki.
* [[Administrivia/RenamedTropes Rename a trope.]] Sometimes it's the title which can cause the whole mess. See Administrivia/EverythingYouWantedToKnowAboutChangingNames for more detail on that front.
* Cut and prohibit all examples from the page: The course of action for which this page is named -- what's left is a readable definition and some scar tissue saying "No examples please. This only defines the term." Everything else goes in the wastebasket. [[note]]Sometimes, the Example Sectionectomy is pre-emptive, as was the case in the launching of PetPeeveTrope. This is typically used on the pages of [[TropesAreNotBad tropes that actually ARE bad.]][[/note]]
* Move examples to another wiki entirely. This measure is rarely taken, but it ''has'' happened, usually for content that gets too family-unfriendly for our tastes. Examples include FetishFuel and PerverseSexualLust.
For more detailed reasons behind cutting examples, have this format:
* Page X: Reason (Additional Notes) -- also Permalocked (if it is locked)
!!Examples of articles deleted entirely:
* Basically any member of the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub (aside from ThisTroper, and other deliberate redlinks).
!!Examples of articles split into multiple pages:
* Any page that was on Multipage Tropes back when we listed those.
* FridgeLogic → now largely located in the [[Headscratchers/HomePage Headscratchers namespace]] → Now combined with other Fridge thoughts in its own section.
!!Examples of articles cutting and prohibiting examples:
[[index]]
Too Contentious to List Examples (In other words: If we had these, we'd have InternetBackdraft, Edit Wars and FlameBait -- and in many cases, we speak from experience):
* EightPointEight
* AllMenAreRapists: Being part of the RapeAndSexualHarassmentTropes, this was [[PetPeeveTrope pre-emptive]], due to the nature ''not'' being TruthInTelevision and being very bad FlameBait. -- also [[Administrivia/LockedPages permalocked]]
* AngstAversion
* AwardSnub: Many of its examples had devolved into [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining about shows that had won]], along with {{Take That}}s towards those who lost.
* BaseBreakingCharacter -- also permalocked
* BileFascination -- also permalocked
* CanonDefilement
* CultClassic -- also permalocked
* DethroningMoment.DeathBattle: Since any episode can cause an InternetBackdraft from FandomRivalry, ''any'' episode can become this for someone, with examples devolving into Flaming and flat-out harassment. -- also permalocked
* FakeDifficulty
* FandomHeresy
* FanDumb
* FlameWar
* SugarWiki/FavoriteTrope
* TheFireflyEffect
* {{GIFT}}
* GarbagePostKid -- also permalocked
* {{Hatedom}}: May qualify as "Too Common", but this is marked as FlameBait -- also permalocked
* HateDumb
* Headscratchers.DeathBattle: Same as the other subpage above. -- also permalocked
* HypeBacklash
* InternetBackdraft
* InternetToughGuy: Many examples were reduced to people latching onto '''''anything''''' they saw as remotely "bad". -- also permalocked
* JumpingTheShark
* LowestCommonDenominator
* MightMakesRight
* OrwellianEditor -- also permalocked
* {{OTP}}
* PetPeeveTrope
* SacredCow
* SerialNumbersFiledOff: Very bad FlameBait, as it can attract instances of Complaining regarding a work [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks ripping off another work's features]], when it didn't. This may qualify as "Too Common", but this proves to be too bad an InternetBackdraft.
* SilentMajority
* {{Squick}} -- also permalocked
* StopHavingFunGuys
* SubbingVersusDubbing
* TaintedByThePreview
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot
* TropeEnjoymentLoophole
* TrueArtIsAncient: See the other TrueArt entries below.
* TrueArtIsBoring: See the other TrueArt entries below.
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: TrueArt used to have '''9''' pages, until 5/9 of them [[Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub were cut and locked]], due to them being nothing but Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike. This had caused {{Flame War}}s between fans of actual pieces of art and haters who think nothing is true art. This had also led to these three having all examples cut, with TrueArtIsAngsty being the only source for examples, albeit Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly. -- also permalocked
* UnpleasableFanbase -- also permalocked
* VideoGameMoviesSuck
* VocalMinority
* {{Waggle}} -- also permalocked
* {{Wangst}}
* WriterCopOut
Cases of MarySue (Its very hotly debated nature on the Internet and ThisVeryWiki, along with a vague definition makes it excellent kindling for accusations of this. Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well.):
* BlackHoleSue
* CanonSue
* CopyCatSue
* JerkSue
* PuritySue
* RelationshipSue
* SympatheticSue
* VillainSue
Content Issues (NSFW tropes and others related):
* AliensMadeThemDoIt -- also permalocked
* AnatomicallyImpossibleSex -- also permalocked
* BaraGenre -- also permalocked
* ComedicLolicon -- also permalocked
* ComedicUnderwearExposure
* {{Dominatrix}} -- also permalocked
* {{Ephebophile}} -- also permalocked
* ExplicitContent
* {{Fetish}} -- also permalocked
* FetishFuel -- also permalocked, with examples moved to a separate wiki
* FetishFuelFuture -- also permalocked
* {{Gorn}}: Creepy examples of this had caused its examples to be cut and locked. -- also permalocked
* {{Hentai}} -- also permalocked
* {{Het}} -- also permalocked
* {{Jumpscare}}
* {{Lemon}}
* {{Lime}}
* LoliconAndShotacon -- also permalocked
* NaughtyTentacles -- also permalocked
* PantyShot -- also permalocked
* PerverseSexualLust -- also permalocked
* RuleThirtyFour: We don't need to talk about pornographic popular culture ''here''.
* ShockSite -- also permalocked
* ToyShip
* {{Yiff}} -- also permalocked
* YouWouldMakeAGreatModel -- also permalocked
Too Common To List (Listing these would bloat the entire selection, even with subpages. It will also inevitably result in Administrivia/SignalToNoiseTrainwreck regardless of anything):
* AlbumFiller
* {{Backtracking}}
* {{Badass}}: General term for those in ListOfBadassTropes; no longer treated as a trope.
* CharacterDeath
* CharacterDevelopment
* EpicRiff
* FirstAppearance
* GameOver
* {{Geek}} -- also permalocked
* HappyEnding
* HolyShitQuotient
* ItMakesSenseInContext
* MistakenlyBanned
* MoralDilemma
* OriginalCharacter
* ProtagonistTitle
* RegularCharacter
* RecurringCharacter
* {{Shipping}}
* ShippingGoggles
* SturgeonsLaw
* VillainsActHeroesReact
* WTHCastingAgency
Too Speculative (Similarly with the Too Common section, these tropes rely too heavily on audience situations, and listing them would [[TropeDecay result in unwieldy sections]]):
* AccidentalNightmareFuel: Was once called NightmareFuel, with NightmareFuel being "High Octane Nightmare Fuel". However, when these got their names, this had suffered massive TropeDecay, being more subjective than NightmareFuel. As of now, even examples of this in YMMV pages of works only go into NightmareFuel. -- also permalocked
* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame
* AwesomenessWithdrawal
* IntendedAudienceReaction
* ItWasHisSled: Being a SquarePegRoundTrope, examples of this were reduced to accidental spoilerage and examples referring to ''any twist'', regardless of popularity. -- also permalocked
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt
* SoOkayItsAverage: This may be listed under "Too Common", but it being a SquarePegRoundTrope and many examples being HypeBacklash (expected to be good but becomes average) has caused TropeDecay.
* TheUntwist
Fanspeak terms (These tropes define terminology that the audience commonly uses to define attributes or incidents, and this wiki already has its own equivalents to them):
* UsefulNotes/{{Baka}}
* {{Bishoujo}} -- also permalocked
* {{Dandere}} (to ShrinkingViolet and SugarAndIcePersonality) -- also permalocked
* {{Dojikko}} (to CuteClumsyGirl)
* {{Kuudere}} (to SugarAndIcePersonality) -- also permalocked
* {{Macekre}} (to CutAndPasteTranslation and {{Bowdlerise}})
* {{Megane}} (to {{Meganekko}}, StoicSpectacles, SexySpectacles, and ScaryShinyGlasses)
* {{Netorare}} (to {{Cuckold}})
* UsefulNotes/{{Pettanko}} (to ACupAngst and PetitePride)
* TakahashiCouple (to BelligerentSexualTension, except for examples from Creator/RumikoTakahashi's own works)
* TechFu (to GadgeteerGenius and MadScientist) -- also permalocked
* {{Whoring}}
Index Preservation (These pages are only meant to be an index, meaning that indexes will become this by default (unless it allows examples):
* AsianIndex
* AttractionToOutliers
* BlackIndex
* TheWarOnStraw
* ThisIndexIsBrown
Unsorted:
* ConstructiveCriticism
[[/index]]
!!Examples of segregated examples:
* {{Narm}} → [=DarthWiki/Narm=] Which was later moved back to Narm.
* [[AvertedTrope Aversions]] of TheProblemWithLicensedGames were moved to SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames.
!!Examples of Administrivia/RenamedTropes:
* Boring Invincible Hero → InvincibleHero
* You Fail X Forever Pages → Artistic License - X (e.g., You Fail Biology Forever → ArtisticLicenseBiology)
!!Examples of dumping the examples list on another wiki:
* FetishFuel
* TroperTales, although that's long gone. Today, the Troper Tales are all but lost.
!!Mixed examples:
* MarySue received somewhat of a 2/4 hybrid, with the article being (almost?) completely re-written and losing all the examples. Though now it seems the new page is a stitched-up combo of the two versions a la Frankenstein's monster... We're not sure what to call it.
* YouFailLogicForever initially had a spin-off page (InsaneTrollLogic) for listing non-specific examples as the page had become rather bloated, and a release valve for non-specific examples was thought desirable (type 5). And then the original page was reorganized so that all the fallacies contained therein were spun off into their own pages (type 3), while the original spin-off had developed through a sort of reverse TropeDecay into a full trope in its own right [[note]]An argument so riddled with flaws as to enter the realm of either {{parody}} or PoesLaw[[/note]].
* Everything listed in Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease counts as an example of a partial Example Sectionectomy; the scar tissue differs in that it contains "No real life examples, please!" rather than "No examples, please. This only defines the term.", as RealLife is the example subsection most prone to need pruning, for various subtly obvious reasons.
* NightmareFuel was originally HighOctaneNightmareFuel, with AccidentalNightmareFuel originally being Nightmare Fuel. Needless to say, the change was a little confusing for in-wiki links, but necessary due to people using the trope to describe anything they personally found scary. Even with the name changes, Nightmare Fuel pages for individual works ''still'' tended to get bloated with poor examples that just happened to coincide with a single person's fears (it's supposed to be things that are frightening to the entire general population), so the examples were tentatively removed -- this sparked a rather large backdraft. Currently, the Nightmare Fuel pages for works operate under what we're calling "Example Lobotomy" rules -- examples are allowed, but hyperbole, PurpleProse, and other forms of flowery page-bloating cruft are kept to a strict minimum.
!!Non-Wiki/TVTropes examples:
* Wikipedia's "in popular culture" sections were heavily cracked down on at one point as a reaction against "{{Fancruft}}" and rampant {{Entry Pimp}}ing, of the kind satirised in [[https://xkcd.com/446/ this]] ''Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'' cartoon. A lengthy Administrivia/EditWar about how much attention the depiction of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madame_de_Pompadour Madame de Pompadour]] in a ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode should have received on her page may have contributed.
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[[caption-width-right:350:FlameWar detected! Fire the {{chainsaw|Good}}!]]
Sometimes, the example section of a page gets bloated. The reasons why vary, but we typically deal with it in one of these ways:
* Prune the examples: Editors review the example list looking for ones that are poorly written (or [[SquarePegRoundTrope off-topic]]) which can be removed from the page, leaving behind the good examples.
* Kill it with fire: Delete the entire article as having poor focus. If it's determined that we don't want the page to ever come back in any form either, it joins the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub.
* [[DivideAndConquer Create a set of subpages for it]]: Useful if the page is sufficiently popular, and also sufficiently objective, that deletion is undesirable. (The results may possibly be put under SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki/DarthWiki if not objective, and sufficiently popular and straightforward (e.g., SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible).)
* Leave the trope where it is, but make the example section a separate page, sometimes on the SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki/DarthWiki.
* [[Administrivia/RenamedTropes Rename a trope.]] Sometimes it's the title which can cause the whole mess. See Administrivia/EverythingYouWantedToKnowAboutChangingNames for more detail on that front.
* Cut and prohibit all examples from the page: The course of action for which this page is named -- what's left is a readable definition and some scar tissue saying "No examples please. This only defines the term." Everything else goes in the wastebasket. [[note]]Sometimes, the Example Sectionectomy is pre-emptive, as was the case in the launching of PetPeeveTrope. This is typically used on the pages of [[TropesAreNotBad tropes that actually ARE bad.]][[/note]]
* Move examples to another wiki entirely. This measure is rarely taken, but it ''has'' happened, usually for content that gets too family-unfriendly for our tastes. Examples include FetishFuel and PerverseSexualLust.
For more detailed reasons behind cutting examples, have this format:
* Page X: Reason (Additional Notes) -- also Permalocked (if it is locked)
!!Examples of articles deleted entirely:
* Basically any member of the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub (aside from ThisTroper, and other deliberate redlinks).
!!Examples of articles split into multiple pages:
* Any page that was on Multipage Tropes back when we listed those.
* FridgeLogic → now largely located in the [[Headscratchers/HomePage Headscratchers namespace]] → Now combined with other Fridge thoughts in its own section.
!!Examples of articles cutting and prohibiting examples:
[[index]]
Too Contentious to List Examples (In other words: If we had these, we'd have InternetBackdraft, Edit Wars and FlameBait -- and in many cases, we speak from experience):
* EightPointEight
* AllMenAreRapists: Being part of the RapeAndSexualHarassmentTropes, this was [[PetPeeveTrope pre-emptive]], due to the nature ''not'' being TruthInTelevision and being very bad FlameBait. -- also [[Administrivia/LockedPages permalocked]]
* AngstAversion
* AwardSnub: Many of its examples had devolved into [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining about shows that had won]], along with {{Take That}}s towards those who lost.
* BaseBreakingCharacter -- also permalocked
* BileFascination -- also permalocked
* CanonDefilement
* CultClassic -- also permalocked
* DethroningMoment.DeathBattle: Since any episode can cause an InternetBackdraft from FandomRivalry, ''any'' episode can become this for someone, with examples devolving into Flaming and flat-out harassment. -- also permalocked
* FakeDifficulty
* FandomHeresy
* FanDumb
* FlameWar
* SugarWiki/FavoriteTrope
* TheFireflyEffect
* {{GIFT}}
* GarbagePostKid -- also permalocked
* {{Hatedom}}: May qualify as "Too Common", but this is marked as FlameBait -- also permalocked
* HateDumb
* Headscratchers.DeathBattle: Same as the other subpage above. -- also permalocked
* HypeBacklash
* InternetBackdraft
* InternetToughGuy: Many examples were reduced to people latching onto '''''anything''''' they saw as remotely "bad". -- also permalocked
* JumpingTheShark
* LowestCommonDenominator
* MightMakesRight
* OrwellianEditor -- also permalocked
* {{OTP}}
* PetPeeveTrope
* SacredCow
* SerialNumbersFiledOff: Very bad FlameBait, as it can attract instances of Complaining regarding a work [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks ripping off another work's features]], when it didn't. This may qualify as "Too Common", but this proves to be too bad an InternetBackdraft.
* SilentMajority
* {{Squick}} -- also permalocked
* StopHavingFunGuys
* SubbingVersusDubbing
* TaintedByThePreview
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot
* TropeEnjoymentLoophole
* TrueArtIsAncient: See the other TrueArt entries below.
* TrueArtIsBoring: See the other TrueArt entries below.
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: TrueArt used to have '''9''' pages, until 5/9 of them [[Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub were cut and locked]], due to them being nothing but Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike. This had caused {{Flame War}}s between fans of actual pieces of art and haters who think nothing is true art. This had also led to these three having all examples cut, with TrueArtIsAngsty being the only source for examples, albeit Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly. -- also permalocked
* UnpleasableFanbase -- also permalocked
* VideoGameMoviesSuck
* VocalMinority
* {{Waggle}} -- also permalocked
* {{Wangst}}
* WriterCopOut
Cases of MarySue (Its very hotly debated nature on the Internet and ThisVeryWiki, along with a vague definition makes it excellent kindling for accusations of this. Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well.):
* BlackHoleSue
* CanonSue
* CopyCatSue
* JerkSue
* PuritySue
* RelationshipSue
* SympatheticSue
* VillainSue
Content Issues (NSFW tropes and others related):
* AliensMadeThemDoIt -- also permalocked
* AnatomicallyImpossibleSex -- also permalocked
* BaraGenre -- also permalocked
* ComedicLolicon -- also permalocked
* ComedicUnderwearExposure
* {{Dominatrix}} -- also permalocked
* {{Ephebophile}} -- also permalocked
* ExplicitContent
* {{Fetish}} -- also permalocked
* FetishFuel -- also permalocked, with examples moved to a separate wiki
* FetishFuelFuture -- also permalocked
* {{Gorn}}: Creepy examples of this had caused its examples to be cut and locked. -- also permalocked
* {{Hentai}} -- also permalocked
* {{Het}} -- also permalocked
* {{Jumpscare}}
* {{Lemon}}
* {{Lime}}
* LoliconAndShotacon -- also permalocked
* NaughtyTentacles -- also permalocked
* PantyShot -- also permalocked
* PerverseSexualLust -- also permalocked
* RuleThirtyFour: We don't need to talk about pornographic popular culture ''here''.
* ShockSite -- also permalocked
* ToyShip
* {{Yiff}} -- also permalocked
* YouWouldMakeAGreatModel -- also permalocked
Too Common To List (Listing these would bloat the entire selection, even with subpages. It will also inevitably result in Administrivia/SignalToNoiseTrainwreck regardless of anything):
* AlbumFiller
* {{Backtracking}}
* {{Badass}}: General term for those in ListOfBadassTropes; no longer treated as a trope.
* CharacterDeath
* CharacterDevelopment
* EpicRiff
* FirstAppearance
* GameOver
* {{Geek}} -- also permalocked
* HappyEnding
* HolyShitQuotient
* ItMakesSenseInContext
* MistakenlyBanned
* MoralDilemma
* OriginalCharacter
* ProtagonistTitle
* RegularCharacter
* RecurringCharacter
* {{Shipping}}
* ShippingGoggles
* SturgeonsLaw
* VillainsActHeroesReact
* WTHCastingAgency
Too Speculative (Similarly with the Too Common section, these tropes rely too heavily on audience situations, and listing them would [[TropeDecay result in unwieldy sections]]):
* AccidentalNightmareFuel: Was once called NightmareFuel, with NightmareFuel being "High Octane Nightmare Fuel". However, when these got their names, this had suffered massive TropeDecay, being more subjective than NightmareFuel. As of now, even examples of this in YMMV pages of works only go into NightmareFuel. -- also permalocked
* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame
* AwesomenessWithdrawal
* IntendedAudienceReaction
* ItWasHisSled: Being a SquarePegRoundTrope, examples of this were reduced to accidental spoilerage and examples referring to ''any twist'', regardless of popularity. -- also permalocked
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt
* SoOkayItsAverage: This may be listed under "Too Common", but it being a SquarePegRoundTrope and many examples being HypeBacklash (expected to be good but becomes average) has caused TropeDecay.
* TheUntwist
Fanspeak terms (These tropes define terminology that the audience commonly uses to define attributes or incidents, and this wiki already has its own equivalents to them):
* UsefulNotes/{{Baka}}
* {{Bishoujo}} -- also permalocked
* {{Dandere}} (to ShrinkingViolet and SugarAndIcePersonality) -- also permalocked
* {{Dojikko}} (to CuteClumsyGirl)
* {{Kuudere}} (to SugarAndIcePersonality) -- also permalocked
* {{Macekre}} (to CutAndPasteTranslation and {{Bowdlerise}})
* {{Megane}} (to {{Meganekko}}, StoicSpectacles, SexySpectacles, and ScaryShinyGlasses)
* {{Netorare}} (to {{Cuckold}})
* UsefulNotes/{{Pettanko}} (to ACupAngst and PetitePride)
* TakahashiCouple (to BelligerentSexualTension, except for examples from Creator/RumikoTakahashi's own works)
* TechFu (to GadgeteerGenius and MadScientist) -- also permalocked
* {{Whoring}}
Index Preservation (These pages are only meant to be an index, meaning that indexes will become this by default (unless it allows examples):
* AsianIndex
* AttractionToOutliers
* BlackIndex
* TheWarOnStraw
* ThisIndexIsBrown
Unsorted:
* ConstructiveCriticism
[[/index]]
!!Examples of segregated examples:
* {{Narm}} → [=DarthWiki/Narm=] Which was later moved back to Narm.
* [[AvertedTrope Aversions]] of TheProblemWithLicensedGames were moved to SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames.
!!Examples of Administrivia/RenamedTropes:
* Boring Invincible Hero → InvincibleHero
* You Fail X Forever Pages → Artistic License - X (e.g., You Fail Biology Forever → ArtisticLicenseBiology)
!!Examples of dumping the examples list on another wiki:
* FetishFuel
* TroperTales, although that's long gone. Today, the Troper Tales are all but lost.
!!Mixed examples:
* MarySue received somewhat of a 2/4 hybrid, with the article being (almost?) completely re-written and losing all the examples. Though now it seems the new page is a stitched-up combo of the two versions a la Frankenstein's monster... We're not sure what to call it.
* YouFailLogicForever initially had a spin-off page (InsaneTrollLogic) for listing non-specific examples as the page had become rather bloated, and a release valve for non-specific examples was thought desirable (type 5). And then the original page was reorganized so that all the fallacies contained therein were spun off into their own pages (type 3), while the original spin-off had developed through a sort of reverse TropeDecay into a full trope in its own right [[note]]An argument so riddled with flaws as to enter the realm of either {{parody}} or PoesLaw[[/note]].
* Everything listed in Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease counts as an example of a partial Example Sectionectomy; the scar tissue differs in that it contains "No real life examples, please!" rather than "No examples, please. This only defines the term.", as RealLife is the example subsection most prone to need pruning, for various subtly obvious reasons.
* NightmareFuel was originally HighOctaneNightmareFuel, with AccidentalNightmareFuel originally being Nightmare Fuel. Needless to say, the change was a little confusing for in-wiki links, but necessary due to people using the trope to describe anything they personally found scary. Even with the name changes, Nightmare Fuel pages for individual works ''still'' tended to get bloated with poor examples that just happened to coincide with a single person's fears (it's supposed to be things that are frightening to the entire general population), so the examples were tentatively removed -- this sparked a rather large backdraft. Currently, the Nightmare Fuel pages for works operate under what we're calling "Example Lobotomy" rules -- examples are allowed, but hyperbole, PurpleProse, and other forms of flowery page-bloating cruft are kept to a strict minimum.
!!Non-Wiki/TVTropes examples:
* Wikipedia's "in popular culture" sections were heavily cracked down on at one point as a reaction against "{{Fancruft}}" and rampant {{Entry Pimp}}ing, of the kind satirised in [[https://xkcd.com/446/ this]] ''Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'' cartoon. A lengthy Administrivia/EditWar about how much attention the depiction of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madame_de_Pompadour Madame de Pompadour]] in a ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode should have received on her page may have contributed.
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I told you a MILLION FUCKING TIMES: This is '''TV TROPES''', NOT "TV NAMESPACES" or "WIKIPEDIA FOR SPAMMERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This stupid, pointless, unstoppable NAMESPACE SPAM/PLAGUE SHIT has been TAKING OVER and INVADING the
Sometimes, the example section of a page gets bloated. The reasons why vary, but we typically deal with it in one of these ways:
* Prune the examples: Editors review the example list looking for ones that are poorly written (or [[SquarePegRoundTrope off-topic]])
* Kill it with fire: Delete the entire article as having poor focus.
Namespaces are SUPPOSED to be ONLY used for friggin' ADAPTATIONS, NAMESAKE ARTICLES, SUBPAGES, and SUB-WIKIS, NOT workpages or "creator" pages or "Useful Notes" pages in GENERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If
* [[DivideAndConquer Create a set of subpages for it]]: Useful if the page is sufficiently popular, and also sufficiently objective, that deletion is undesirable. (The results may possibly be put under SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki/DarthWiki if not objective, and sufficiently popular and straightforward (e.g., SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible).)
* Leave the trope where it is, but make the example section a separate page, sometimes on the SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki/DarthWiki.
* [[Administrivia/RenamedTropes Rename a trope.]] Sometimes it's the title which can cause the whole mess. See Administrivia/EverythingYouWantedToKnowAboutChangingNames for more detail on that front.
* Cut and prohibit all examples from the page: The course of action for which this page is named -- what's left is a readable definition and some scar tissue saying "No examples please. This only defines the term." Everything else goes in the wastebasket. [[note]]Sometimes, the Example Sectionectomy is pre-emptive, as was the case in the launching of PetPeeveTrope. This is typically used on the pages of [[TropesAreNotBad tropes that actually ARE bad.]][[/note]]
* Move examples to another wiki entirely. This measure is rarely taken, but it ''has'' happened, usually for content that gets too family-unfriendly for our tastes. Examples include FetishFuel and PerverseSexualLust.
For more detailed reasons behind cutting examples, have this format:
* Page X: Reason (Additional Notes) -- also Permalocked (if it is locked)
!!Examples of
* Basically any member of the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub (aside from ThisTroper,
!!Examples of articles split into multiple pages:
* Any page that was on Multipage Tropes back when we listed those.
* FridgeLogic → now largely located in the [[Headscratchers/HomePage Headscratchers namespace]] → Now combined with other Fridge thoughts in its own section.
!!Examples of articles cutting and prohibiting examples:
[[index]]
Too Contentious to List Examples (In other words: If we had these, we'd have InternetBackdraft, Edit Wars and FlameBait -- and in many cases, we speak from experience):
* EightPointEight
* AllMenAreRapists: Being part of the RapeAndSexualHarassmentTropes, this was [[PetPeeveTrope pre-emptive]], due to the nature ''not'' being TruthInTelevision and being very bad FlameBait. -- also [[Administrivia/LockedPages permalocked]]
* AngstAversion
* AwardSnub: Many of its examples had devolved into [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining about shows that had won]], along with {{Take That}}s towards those who lost.
* BaseBreakingCharacter -- also permalocked
* BileFascination -- also permalocked
* CanonDefilement
* CultClassic -- also permalocked
* DethroningMoment.DeathBattle: Since any episode can cause an InternetBackdraft from FandomRivalry, ''any'' episode can become this for someone, with examples devolving into Flaming and flat-out harassment. -- also permalocked
* FakeDifficulty
* FandomHeresy
* FanDumb
* FlameWar
* SugarWiki/FavoriteTrope
* TheFireflyEffect
* {{GIFT}}
* GarbagePostKid -- also permalocked
* {{Hatedom}}: May qualify as "Too Common", but this is marked as FlameBait -- also permalocked
* HateDumb
* Headscratchers.DeathBattle: Same as the other subpage above. -- also permalocked
* HypeBacklash
* InternetBackdraft
* InternetToughGuy: Many examples were reduced to people latching onto '''''anything''''' they saw as remotely "bad". -- also permalocked
* JumpingTheShark
* LowestCommonDenominator
* MightMakesRight
* OrwellianEditor -- also permalocked
* {{OTP}}
* PetPeeveTrope
* SacredCow
* SerialNumbersFiledOff: Very bad FlameBait, as it can attract instances of Complaining regarding a work [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks ripping off another work's features]], when it didn't. This may qualify as "Too Common", but this proves to be too bad an InternetBackdraft.
* SilentMajority
* {{Squick}} -- also permalocked
* StopHavingFunGuys
* SubbingVersusDubbing
* TaintedByThePreview
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot
* TropeEnjoymentLoophole
* TrueArtIsAncient: See the other TrueArt entries below.
* TrueArtIsBoring: See the other TrueArt entries below.
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: TrueArt used to have '''9''' pages, until 5/9 of
* UnpleasableFanbase -- also permalocked
* VideoGameMoviesSuck
* VocalMinority
* {{Waggle}} -- also permalocked
* {{Wangst}}
* WriterCopOut
Cases of MarySue (Its very hotly debated nature on the Internet and ThisVeryWiki, along with a vague definition makes it excellent kindling for accusations of this. Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well.):
* BlackHoleSue
* CanonSue
* CopyCatSue
* JerkSue
* PuritySue
* RelationshipSue
* SympatheticSue
* VillainSue
Content Issues (NSFW tropes and others related):
* AliensMadeThemDoIt -- also permalocked
* AnatomicallyImpossibleSex -- also permalocked
* BaraGenre -- also permalocked
* ComedicLolicon -- also permalocked
* ComedicUnderwearExposure
* {{Dominatrix}} -- also permalocked
* {{Ephebophile}} -- also permalocked
* ExplicitContent
* {{Fetish}} -- also permalocked
* FetishFuel -- also permalocked, with examples moved to a separate wiki
* FetishFuelFuture -- also permalocked
* {{Gorn}}: Creepy examples of this had caused its examples to be cut and locked. -- also permalocked
* {{Hentai}} -- also permalocked
* {{Het}} -- also permalocked
* {{Jumpscare}}
* {{Lemon}}
* {{Lime}}
* LoliconAndShotacon -- also permalocked
* NaughtyTentacles -- also permalocked
* PantyShot -- also permalocked
* PerverseSexualLust -- also permalocked
* RuleThirtyFour: We don't need to talk about pornographic popular culture ''here''.
* ShockSite -- also permalocked
* ToyShip
* {{Yiff}} -- also permalocked
* YouWouldMakeAGreatModel -- also permalocked
Too Common To List (Listing these would bloat the entire selection, even with subpages. It will also inevitably result in Administrivia/SignalToNoiseTrainwreck regardless of anything):
* AlbumFiller
* {{Backtracking}}
* {{Badass}}: General term for those in ListOfBadassTropes; no longer treated as a trope.
* CharacterDeath
* CharacterDevelopment
* EpicRiff
* FirstAppearance
* GameOver
* {{Geek}} -- also permalocked
* HappyEnding
* HolyShitQuotient
* ItMakesSenseInContext
* MistakenlyBanned
* MoralDilemma
* OriginalCharacter
* ProtagonistTitle
* RegularCharacter
* RecurringCharacter
* {{Shipping}}
* ShippingGoggles
* SturgeonsLaw
* VillainsActHeroesReact
* WTHCastingAgency
Too Speculative (Similarly with the Too Common section, these tropes rely too heavily on audience situations, and listing them would [[TropeDecay result in unwieldy sections]]):
* AccidentalNightmareFuel: Was once called NightmareFuel, with NightmareFuel being "High Octane Nightmare Fuel". However, when these got their names, this had suffered massive TropeDecay, being more subjective than NightmareFuel. As of now, even examples of this in YMMV pages of works only go into NightmareFuel. -- also permalocked
* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame
* AwesomenessWithdrawal
* IntendedAudienceReaction
* ItWasHisSled: Being a SquarePegRoundTrope, examples of this were reduced to accidental spoilerage and examples referring to ''any twist'', regardless of popularity. -- also permalocked
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt
* SoOkayItsAverage: This may be listed under "Too Common", but it being a SquarePegRoundTrope and many examples being HypeBacklash (expected to be good but becomes average) has caused TropeDecay.
* TheUntwist
Fanspeak terms (These tropes define terminology that the audience commonly uses to define attributes or incidents, and this wiki already has its own equivalents to them):
* UsefulNotes/{{Baka}}
* {{Bishoujo}} -- also permalocked
* {{Dandere}} (to ShrinkingViolet and SugarAndIcePersonality) -- also permalocked
* {{Dojikko}} (to CuteClumsyGirl)
* {{Kuudere}} (to SugarAndIcePersonality) -- also permalocked
* {{Macekre}} (to CutAndPasteTranslation and {{Bowdlerise}})
* {{Megane}} (to {{Meganekko}}, StoicSpectacles, SexySpectacles, and ScaryShinyGlasses)
* {{Netorare}} (to {{Cuckold}})
* UsefulNotes/{{Pettanko}} (to ACupAngst and PetitePride)
* TakahashiCouple (to BelligerentSexualTension, except for examples from Creator/RumikoTakahashi's own works)
* TechFu (to GadgeteerGenius and MadScientist) -- also permalocked
* {{Whoring}}
Index Preservation (These pages are only meant to be an index, meaning that indexes will become this by default (unless it allows examples):
* AsianIndex
* AttractionToOutliers
* BlackIndex
* TheWarOnStraw
* ThisIndexIsBrown
Unsorted:
* ConstructiveCriticism
[[/index]]
!!Examples of segregated examples:
* {{Narm}} → [=DarthWiki/Narm=] Which was later moved back to Narm.
* [[AvertedTrope Aversions]] of TheProblemWithLicensedGames were moved to SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames.
!!Examples of Administrivia/RenamedTropes:
* Boring Invincible Hero → InvincibleHero
* You Fail X Forever Pages → Artistic License - X (e.g., You Fail Biology Forever → ArtisticLicenseBiology)
!!Examples of dumping the examples list on another wiki:
* FetishFuel
* TroperTales, although that's long gone. Today, the Troper Tales are all but lost.
!!Mixed examples:
* MarySue received somewhat of a 2/4 hybrid, with the article being (almost?) completely re-written and losing all the examples. Though now it seems the new page is a stitched-up combo of the two versions a la Frankenstein's monster... We're not sure what to call it.
* YouFailLogicForever initially had a spin-off page (InsaneTrollLogic) for listing non-specific examples as the page had become rather bloated, and a release valve for non-specific examples was thought desirable (type 5). And then the original page was reorganized so that all the fallacies contained therein were spun off into their own pages (type 3), while the original spin-off had developed through a sort of reverse TropeDecay into a full trope in its own right [[note]]An argument so riddled with flaws as to enter the realm of either {{parody}} or PoesLaw[[/note]].
* Everything listed in Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease counts as an example of a partial Example Sectionectomy; the scar tissue differs in that it contains "No real life examples, please!" rather than "No examples, please. This only defines the term.", as RealLife is the example subsection most prone to need pruning, for various subtly obvious reasons.
* NightmareFuel was originally HighOctaneNightmareFuel, with AccidentalNightmareFuel originally being Nightmare Fuel. Needless to say, the change was a little confusing for in-wiki links, but necessary due to people using the trope to describe anything they personally found scary. Even with the name changes, Nightmare Fuel pages for individual works ''still'' tended to get bloated with poor examples that just happened to coincide with a single person's fears (it's supposed to be things that are frightening to the entire general population), so the examples were tentatively removed -- this sparked a rather large backdraft. Currently, the Nightmare Fuel pages for works operate under what we're calling "Example Lobotomy" rules -- examples are allowed, but hyperbole, PurpleProse, and other forms of flowery page-bloating cruft are kept to a strict minimum.
!!Non-Wiki/TVTropes examples:
* Wikipedia's "in popular culture" sections were heavily cracked down on at one point as a reaction against "{{Fancruft}}" and rampant {{Entry Pimp}}ing, of the kind satirised in [[https://xkcd.com/446/ this]] ''Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'' cartoon. A lengthy Administrivia/EditWar about how much attention the depiction of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madame_de_Pompadour Madame de Pompadour]] in a ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode should have received on her page may have contributed.
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I told you a MILLION FUCKING TIMES: This is '''TV TROPES''', NOT "TV NAMESPACES" or "WIKIPEDIA FOR SPAMMERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This stupid, pointless, unstoppable NAMESPACE SPAM/PLAGUE SHIT has been TAKING OVER and INVADING the ENTIRE FUCKING SITE since fucking 2011, which PISSES ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm TRYING to STOP you guys from spamming your shitty ass namespaces ALL OVER random pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S WHY I GOT THESE STUPID NAMESPACE EFFORT PAGES LOCKED FOR '''GOOD''' SO ALL THIS ENDLESSLY REPETITIVE SPAM SHOULD BE '''OVER''' ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Namespaces are SUPPOSED to be ONLY used for friggin' ADAPTATIONS, NAMESAKE ARTICLES, SUBPAGES, and SUB-WIKIS, NOT workpages or "creator" pages or "Useful Notes" pages in GENERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you don't STOP spamming the ENTIRE FUCKING WIKI with your ENDLESS NAMESPACE BULLSHIT, I'm gonna TAKE DOWN these stupid ass articles for nonstop spamming and REMOVE them OFF the site completely, ''FOREVER'' AND '''EVER'''!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! D:<
I told you a MILLION FUCKING TIMES: This is '''TV TROPES''', NOT "TV NAMESPACES" or "WIKIPEDIA FOR SPAMMERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This stupid, pointless, unstoppable NAMESPACE SPAM/PLAGUE SHIT has been TAKING OVER and INVADING the ENTIRE FUCKING SITE since fucking 2011, which PISSES ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm TRYING to STOP you guys from spamming your shitty ass namespaces ALL OVER random pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S WHY I GOT THESE STUPID NAMESPACE EFFORT PAGES LOCKED FOR '''GOOD''' SO ALL THIS ENDLESSLY REPETITIVE SPAM SHOULD BE '''OVER''' ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Namespaces are SUPPOSED to be ONLY used for friggin' ADAPTATIONS, NAMESAKE ARTICLES, SUBPAGES, and SUB-WIKIS, NOT workpages or "creator" pages or "Useful Notes" pages in GENERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you don't STOP spamming the ENTIRE FUCKING WIKI with your ENDLESS NAMESPACE BULLSHIT, I'm gonna TAKE DOWN these stupid ass articles for nonstop spamming and REMOVE them OFF the site completely, ''FOREVER'' AND '''EVER'''!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! D:<
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I told you a MILLION FUCKING TIMES: This is '''TV TROPES''', NOT "TV NAMESPACES" or "WIKIPEDIA FOR SPAMMERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This stupid, pointless, unstoppable NAMESPACE SPAM/PLAGUE SHIT has been TAKING OVER and INVADING
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Sometimes, the example section of a page gets bloated. The reasons why vary, but we typically deal with it in one of these ways:
* Prune the examples: Editors review the example list looking for ones that are poorly written (or [[SquarePegRoundTrope off-topic]]) which
Namespaces are SUPPOSED to be ONLY used for friggin' ADAPTATIONS, NAMESAKE ARTICLES, SUBPAGES, and SUB-WIKIS, NOT workpages or "creator" pages or "Useful Notes" pages in GENERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
* Kill it with fire: Delete the entire article as having poor focus. If
* [[DivideAndConquer Create a set of subpages for it]]: Useful if the page is sufficiently popular, and also sufficiently objective, that deletion is undesirable. (The results may possibly be put under SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki/DarthWiki if not objective, and sufficiently popular and straightforward (e.g., SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible).)
* Leave the trope where it is, but make the example section a separate page, sometimes on the SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki/DarthWiki.
* [[Administrivia/RenamedTropes Rename a trope.]] Sometimes it's the title which can cause the whole mess. See Administrivia/EverythingYouWantedToKnowAboutChangingNames for more detail on that front.
* Cut and prohibit all examples from the page: The course of action for which this page is named -- what's left is a readable definition and some scar tissue saying "No examples please. This only defines the term." Everything else goes in the wastebasket. [[note]]Sometimes, the Example Sectionectomy is pre-emptive, as was the case in the launching of PetPeeveTrope. This is typically used on the pages of [[TropesAreNotBad tropes that actually ARE bad.]][[/note]]
* Move examples to another wiki entirely. This measure is rarely taken, but it ''has'' happened, usually for content that gets too family-unfriendly for our tastes. Examples include FetishFuel and PerverseSexualLust.
For more detailed reasons behind cutting examples, have this format:
* Page X: Reason (Additional Notes) -- also Permalocked (if it is locked)
!!Examples of articles deleted entirely:
* Basically any member of the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub (aside from ThisTroper, and other deliberate redlinks).
!!Examples of articles split into multiple pages:
* Any page that was on Multipage Tropes back when we listed those.
* FridgeLogic → now largely located in the [[Headscratchers/HomePage Headscratchers namespace]] → Now combined with other Fridge thoughts in its own section.
!!Examples of articles cutting and prohibiting examples:
[[index]]
Too Contentious to List Examples (In other words: If we had these, we'd have InternetBackdraft, Edit Wars and FlameBait -- and in many cases, we speak from experience):
* EightPointEight
* AllMenAreRapists: Being part of the RapeAndSexualHarassmentTropes, this was [[PetPeeveTrope pre-emptive]], due to the nature ''not'' being TruthInTelevision and being very bad FlameBait. -- also [[Administrivia/LockedPages permalocked]]
* AngstAversion
* AwardSnub: Many of its examples had devolved into [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining about shows that had won]], along with {{Take That}}s towards those who lost.
* BaseBreakingCharacter -- also permalocked
* BileFascination -- also permalocked
* CanonDefilement
* CultClassic -- also permalocked
* DethroningMoment.DeathBattle: Since any episode can cause an InternetBackdraft from FandomRivalry, ''any'' episode can become this for
* FakeDifficulty
* FandomHeresy
* FanDumb
* FlameWar
* SugarWiki/FavoriteTrope
* TheFireflyEffect
* {{GIFT}}
* GarbagePostKid -- also permalocked
* {{Hatedom}}: May qualify as "Too Common", but this is marked as FlameBait -- also permalocked
* HateDumb
* Headscratchers.DeathBattle: Same as the other subpage above. -- also permalocked
* HypeBacklash
* InternetBackdraft
* InternetToughGuy: Many examples were reduced to people latching onto '''''anything''''' they saw as remotely "bad". -- also permalocked
* JumpingTheShark
* LowestCommonDenominator
* MightMakesRight
* OrwellianEditor -- also permalocked
* {{OTP}}
* PetPeeveTrope
* SacredCow
* SerialNumbersFiledOff: Very bad FlameBait, as it can attract instances of Complaining regarding a work [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks ripping off another work's features]], when it didn't. This may qualify as "Too Common", but this proves to be too bad an InternetBackdraft.
* SilentMajority
* {{Squick}} -- also permalocked
* StopHavingFunGuys
* SubbingVersusDubbing
* TaintedByThePreview
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot
* TropeEnjoymentLoophole
* TrueArtIsAncient: See the other TrueArt entries below.
* TrueArtIsBoring: See the other TrueArt entries below.
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: TrueArt used to have '''9''' pages, until 5/9 of them
* UnpleasableFanbase -- also permalocked
* VideoGameMoviesSuck
* VocalMinority
* {{Waggle}} -- also permalocked
* {{Wangst}}
* WriterCopOut
Cases of MarySue (Its very hotly debated nature on the Internet and ThisVeryWiki, along with a vague definition makes it excellent kindling for accusations of this. Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well.):
* BlackHoleSue
* CanonSue
* CopyCatSue
* JerkSue
* PuritySue
* RelationshipSue
* SympatheticSue
* VillainSue
Content Issues (NSFW tropes and others related):
* AliensMadeThemDoIt -- also permalocked
* AnatomicallyImpossibleSex -- also permalocked
* BaraGenre -- also permalocked
* ComedicLolicon -- also permalocked
* ComedicUnderwearExposure
* {{Dominatrix}} -- also permalocked
* {{Ephebophile}} -- also permalocked
* ExplicitContent
* {{Fetish}} -- also permalocked
* FetishFuel -- also permalocked, with examples moved to a separate wiki
* FetishFuelFuture -- also permalocked
* {{Gorn}}: Creepy examples of this had caused its examples to be cut and locked. -- also permalocked
* {{Hentai}} -- also permalocked
* {{Het}} -- also permalocked
* {{Jumpscare}}
* {{Lemon}}
* {{Lime}}
* LoliconAndShotacon -- also permalocked
* NaughtyTentacles -- also permalocked
* PantyShot -- also permalocked
* PerverseSexualLust -- also permalocked
* RuleThirtyFour: We don't need to talk about pornographic popular culture ''here''.
* ShockSite -- also permalocked
* ToyShip
* {{Yiff}} -- also permalocked
* YouWouldMakeAGreatModel -- also permalocked
Too Common To List (Listing these would bloat the entire selection, even with subpages. It will also inevitably result in Administrivia/SignalToNoiseTrainwreck regardless of anything):
* AlbumFiller
* {{Backtracking}}
* {{Badass}}: General term for those in ListOfBadassTropes; no longer treated as a trope.
* CharacterDeath
* CharacterDevelopment
* EpicRiff
* FirstAppearance
* GameOver
* {{Geek}} -- also permalocked
* HappyEnding
* HolyShitQuotient
* ItMakesSenseInContext
* MistakenlyBanned
* MoralDilemma
* OriginalCharacter
* ProtagonistTitle
* RegularCharacter
* RecurringCharacter
* {{Shipping}}
* ShippingGoggles
* SturgeonsLaw
* VillainsActHeroesReact
* WTHCastingAgency
Too Speculative (Similarly with the Too Common section, these tropes rely too heavily on audience situations, and listing them would [[TropeDecay result in unwieldy sections]]):
* AccidentalNightmareFuel: Was once called NightmareFuel, with NightmareFuel being "High Octane Nightmare Fuel". However, when these got their names, this had suffered massive TropeDecay, being more subjective than NightmareFuel. As of now, even examples of this in YMMV pages of works only go into NightmareFuel. -- also permalocked
* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame
* AwesomenessWithdrawal
* IntendedAudienceReaction
* ItWasHisSled: Being a SquarePegRoundTrope, examples of this were reduced to accidental spoilerage and examples referring to ''any twist'', regardless of popularity. -- also permalocked
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt
* SoOkayItsAverage: This may be listed under "Too Common", but it being a SquarePegRoundTrope and many examples being HypeBacklash (expected to be good but becomes average) has caused TropeDecay.
* TheUntwist
Fanspeak terms (These tropes define terminology that the audience commonly uses to define attributes or incidents, and this wiki already has its own equivalents to them):
* UsefulNotes/{{Baka}}
* {{Bishoujo}} -- also permalocked
* {{Dandere}} (to ShrinkingViolet and SugarAndIcePersonality) -- also permalocked
* {{Dojikko}} (to CuteClumsyGirl)
* {{Kuudere}} (to SugarAndIcePersonality) -- also permalocked
* {{Macekre}} (to CutAndPasteTranslation and {{Bowdlerise}})
* {{Megane}} (to {{Meganekko}}, StoicSpectacles, SexySpectacles, and ScaryShinyGlasses)
* {{Netorare}} (to {{Cuckold}})
* UsefulNotes/{{Pettanko}} (to ACupAngst and PetitePride)
* TakahashiCouple (to BelligerentSexualTension, except for examples from Creator/RumikoTakahashi's own works)
* TechFu (to GadgeteerGenius and MadScientist) -- also permalocked
* {{Whoring}}
Index Preservation (These pages are only meant to be an index, meaning that indexes will become this by default (unless it allows examples):
* AsianIndex
* AttractionToOutliers
* BlackIndex
* TheWarOnStraw
* ThisIndexIsBrown
Unsorted:
* ConstructiveCriticism
[[/index]]
!!Examples of segregated examples:
* {{Narm}} → [=DarthWiki/Narm=] Which was later moved back to Narm.
* [[AvertedTrope Aversions]] of TheProblemWithLicensedGames were moved to SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames.
!!Examples of Administrivia/RenamedTropes:
* Boring Invincible Hero → InvincibleHero
* You Fail X Forever Pages → Artistic License - X (e.g., You Fail Biology Forever → ArtisticLicenseBiology)
!!Examples of dumping the examples list on another wiki:
* FetishFuel
* TroperTales, although that's long gone. Today, the Troper Tales are all but lost.
!!Mixed examples:
* MarySue received somewhat of a 2/4 hybrid, with the article being (almost?) completely re-written and losing all the examples. Though now it seems the new page is a stitched-up combo of the two versions a la Frankenstein's monster... We're not sure what to call it.
* YouFailLogicForever initially had a spin-off page (InsaneTrollLogic) for listing non-specific examples as the page had become rather bloated, and a release valve for non-specific examples was thought desirable (type 5). And then the original page was reorganized so that all the fallacies contained therein were spun off into their own pages (type 3), while the original spin-off had developed through a sort of reverse TropeDecay into a full trope in its own right [[note]]An argument so riddled with flaws as to enter the realm of either {{parody}} or PoesLaw[[/note]].
* Everything listed in Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease counts as an example of a partial Example Sectionectomy; the scar tissue differs in that it contains "No real life examples, please!" rather than "No examples, please. This only defines the term.", as RealLife is the example subsection most prone to need pruning, for various subtly obvious reasons.
* NightmareFuel was originally HighOctaneNightmareFuel, with AccidentalNightmareFuel originally being Nightmare Fuel. Needless to say, the change was a little confusing for in-wiki links, but necessary due to people using the trope to describe anything they personally found scary. Even with the name changes, Nightmare Fuel pages for individual works ''still'' tended to get bloated with poor examples that just happened to coincide with a single person's fears (it's supposed to be things that are frightening to the entire general population), so the examples were tentatively removed -- this sparked a rather large backdraft. Currently, the Nightmare Fuel pages for works operate under what we're calling "Example Lobotomy" rules -- examples are allowed, but hyperbole, PurpleProse, and other forms of flowery page-bloating cruft are kept to a strict minimum.
!!Non-Wiki/TVTropes examples:
* Wikipedia's "in popular culture" sections were heavily cracked down on at one point as a reaction against "{{Fancruft}}" and rampant {{Entry Pimp}}ing, of the kind satirised in [[https://xkcd.com/446/ this]] ''Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'' cartoon. A lengthy Administrivia/EditWar about how much attention the depiction of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madame_de_Pompadour Madame de Pompadour]] in a ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode should have received on her page may have contributed.
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Sometimes, the example section of a page gets bloated. The reasons why vary, but we typically deal with it in one of these ways:
* Prune the examples: Editors review the example list looking for ones that are poorly written (or [[SquarePegRoundTrope off-topic]]) which can be removed from the page, leaving behind the good examples.
* Kill it with fire: Delete the entire article as having poor focus. If it's determined that we don't want the page to ever come back in any form either, it joins the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub.
* [[DivideAndConquer Create a set of subpages for it]]: Useful if the page is sufficiently popular, and also sufficiently objective, that deletion is undesirable. (The results may possibly be put under SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki/DarthWiki if not objective, and sufficiently popular and straightforward (e.g., SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible).)
* Leave the trope where it is, but make the example section a separate page, sometimes on the SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki/DarthWiki.
* [[Administrivia/RenamedTropes Rename a trope.]] Sometimes it's the title which can cause the whole mess. See Administrivia/EverythingYouWantedToKnowAboutChangingNames for more detail on that front.
* Cut and prohibit all examples from the page: The course of action for which this page is named -- what's left is a readable definition and some scar tissue saying "No examples please. This only defines the term." Everything else goes in the wastebasket. [[note]]Sometimes, the Example Sectionectomy is pre-emptive, as was the case in the launching of PetPeeveTrope. This is typically used on the pages of [[TropesAreNotBad tropes that actually ARE bad.]][[/note]]
* Move examples to another wiki entirely. This measure is rarely taken, but it ''has'' happened, usually for content that gets too family-unfriendly for our tastes. Examples include FetishFuel and PerverseSexualLust.
For more detailed reasons behind cutting examples, have this format:
* Page X: Reason (Additional Notes) -- also Permalocked (if it is locked)
!!Examples of articles deleted entirely:
* Basically any member of the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub (aside from ThisTroper, and other deliberate redlinks).
!!Examples of articles split into multiple pages:
* Any page that was on Multipage Tropes back when we listed those.
* FridgeLogic → now largely located in the [[Headscratchers/HomePage Headscratchers namespace]] → Now combined with other Fridge thoughts in its own section.
!!Examples of articles cutting and prohibiting examples:
[[index]]
Too Contentious to List Examples (In other words: If we had these, we'd have InternetBackdraft, Edit Wars and FlameBait -- and in many cases, we speak from experience):
* EightPointEight
* AllMenAreRapists: Being part of the RapeAndSexualHarassmentTropes, this was [[PetPeeveTrope pre-emptive]], due to the nature ''not'' being TruthInTelevision and being very bad FlameBait. -- also [[Administrivia/LockedPages permalocked]]
* AngstAversion
* AwardSnub: Many of its examples had devolved into [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining about shows that had won]], along with {{Take That}}s towards those who lost.
* BaseBreakingCharacter -- also permalocked
* BileFascination -- also permalocked
* CanonDefilement
* CultClassic -- also permalocked
* DethroningMoment.DeathBattle: Since any episode can cause an InternetBackdraft from FandomRivalry, ''any'' episode can become this for someone, with examples devolving into Flaming and flat-out harassment. -- also permalocked
* FakeDifficulty
* FandomHeresy
* FanDumb
* FlameWar
* SugarWiki/FavoriteTrope
* TheFireflyEffect
* {{GIFT}}
* GarbagePostKid -- also permalocked
* {{Hatedom}}: May qualify as "Too Common", but this is marked as FlameBait -- also permalocked
* HateDumb
* Headscratchers.DeathBattle: Same as the other subpage above. -- also permalocked
* HypeBacklash
* InternetBackdraft
* InternetToughGuy: Many examples were reduced to people latching onto '''''anything''''' they saw as remotely "bad". -- also permalocked
* JumpingTheShark
* LowestCommonDenominator
* MightMakesRight
* OrwellianEditor -- also permalocked
* {{OTP}}
* PetPeeveTrope
* SacredCow
* SerialNumbersFiledOff: Very bad FlameBait, as it can attract instances of Complaining regarding a work [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks ripping off another work's features]], when it didn't. This may qualify as "Too Common", but this proves to be too bad an InternetBackdraft.
* SilentMajority
* {{Squick}} -- also permalocked
* StopHavingFunGuys
* SubbingVersusDubbing
* TaintedByThePreview
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot
* TropeEnjoymentLoophole
* TrueArtIsAncient: See the other TrueArt entries below.
* TrueArtIsBoring: See the other TrueArt entries below.
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: TrueArt used to have '''9''' pages, until 5/9 of them [[Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub were cut and locked]], due to them being nothing but Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike. This had caused {{Flame War}}s between fans of actual pieces of art and haters who think nothing is true art. This had also led to these three having all examples cut, with TrueArtIsAngsty being the only source for examples, albeit Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly. -- also permalocked
* UnpleasableFanbase -- also permalocked
* VideoGameMoviesSuck
* VocalMinority
* {{Waggle}} -- also permalocked
* {{Wangst}}
* WriterCopOut
Cases of MarySue (Its very hotly debated nature on the Internet and ThisVeryWiki, along with a vague definition makes it excellent kindling for accusations of this. Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well.):
* BlackHoleSue
* CanonSue
* CopyCatSue
* JerkSue
* PuritySue
* RelationshipSue
* SympatheticSue
* VillainSue
Content Issues (NSFW tropes and others related):
* AliensMadeThemDoIt -- also permalocked
* AnatomicallyImpossibleSex -- also permalocked
* BaraGenre -- also permalocked
* ComedicLolicon -- also permalocked
* ComedicUnderwearExposure
* {{Dominatrix}} -- also permalocked
* {{Ephebophile}} -- also permalocked
* ExplicitContent
* {{Fetish}} -- also permalocked
* FetishFuel -- also permalocked, with examples moved to a separate wiki
* FetishFuelFuture -- also permalocked
* {{Gorn}}: Creepy examples of this had caused its examples to be cut and locked. -- also permalocked
* {{Hentai}} -- also permalocked
* {{Het}} -- also permalocked
* {{Jumpscare}}
* {{Lemon}}
* {{Lime}}
* LoliconAndShotacon -- also permalocked
* NaughtyTentacles -- also permalocked
* PantyShot -- also permalocked
* PerverseSexualLust -- also permalocked
* RuleThirtyFour: We don't need to talk about pornographic popular culture ''here''.
* ShockSite -- also permalocked
* ToyShip
* {{Yiff}} -- also permalocked
* YouWouldMakeAGreatModel -- also permalocked
Too Common To List (Listing these would bloat the entire selection, even with subpages. It will also inevitably result in Administrivia/SignalToNoiseTrainwreck regardless of anything):
* AlbumFiller
* {{Backtracking}}
* {{Badass}}: General term for those in ListOfBadassTropes; no longer treated as a trope.
* CharacterDeath
* CharacterDevelopment
* EpicRiff
* FirstAppearance
* GameOver
* {{Geek}} -- also permalocked
* HappyEnding
* HolyShitQuotient
* ItMakesSenseInContext
* MistakenlyBanned
* MoralDilemma
* OriginalCharacter
* ProtagonistTitle
* RegularCharacter
* RecurringCharacter
* {{Shipping}}
* ShippingGoggles
* SturgeonsLaw
* VillainsActHeroesReact
* WTHCastingAgency
Too Speculative (Similarly with the Too Common section, these tropes rely too heavily on audience situations, and listing them would [[TropeDecay result in unwieldy sections]]):
* AccidentalNightmareFuel: Was once called NightmareFuel, with NightmareFuel being "High Octane Nightmare Fuel". However, when these got their names, this had suffered massive TropeDecay, being more subjective than NightmareFuel. As of now, even examples of this in YMMV pages of works only go into NightmareFuel. -- also permalocked
* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame
* AwesomenessWithdrawal
* IntendedAudienceReaction
* ItWasHisSled: Being a SquarePegRoundTrope, examples of this were reduced to accidental spoilerage and examples referring to ''any twist'', regardless of popularity. -- also permalocked
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt
* SoOkayItsAverage: This may be listed under "Too Common", but it being a SquarePegRoundTrope and many examples being HypeBacklash (expected to be good but becomes average) has caused TropeDecay.
* TheUntwist
Fanspeak terms (These tropes define terminology that the audience commonly uses to define attributes or incidents, and this wiki already has its own equivalents to them):
* UsefulNotes/{{Baka}}
* {{Bishoujo}} -- also permalocked
* {{Dandere}} (to ShrinkingViolet and SugarAndIcePersonality) -- also permalocked
* {{Dojikko}} (to CuteClumsyGirl)
* {{Kuudere}} (to SugarAndIcePersonality) -- also permalocked
* {{Macekre}} (to CutAndPasteTranslation and {{Bowdlerise}})
* {{Megane}} (to {{Meganekko}}, StoicSpectacles, SexySpectacles, and ScaryShinyGlasses)
* {{Netorare}} (to {{Cuckold}})
* UsefulNotes/{{Pettanko}} (to ACupAngst and PetitePride)
* TakahashiCouple (to BelligerentSexualTension, except for examples from Creator/RumikoTakahashi's own works)
* TechFu (to GadgeteerGenius and MadScientist) -- also permalocked
* {{Whoring}}
Index Preservation (These pages are only meant to be an index, meaning that indexes will become this by default (unless it allows examples):
* AsianIndex
* AttractionToOutliers
* BlackIndex
* TheWarOnStraw
* ThisIndexIsBrown
Unsorted:
* ConstructiveCriticism
[[/index]]
!!Examples of segregated examples:
* {{Narm}} → [=DarthWiki/Narm=] Which was later moved back to Narm.
* [[AvertedTrope Aversions]] of TheProblemWithLicensedGames were moved to SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames.
!!Examples of Administrivia/RenamedTropes:
* Boring Invincible Hero → InvincibleHero
* You Fail X Forever Pages → Artistic License - X (e.g., You Fail Biology Forever → ArtisticLicenseBiology)
!!Examples of dumping the examples list on another wiki:
* FetishFuel
* TroperTales, although that's long gone. Today, the Troper Tales are all but lost.
!!Mixed examples:
* MarySue received somewhat of a 2/4 hybrid, with the article being (almost?) completely re-written and losing all the examples. Though now it seems the new page is a stitched-up combo of the two versions a la Frankenstein's monster... We're not sure what to call it.
* YouFailLogicForever initially had a spin-off page (InsaneTrollLogic) for listing non-specific examples as the page had become rather bloated, and a release valve for non-specific examples was thought desirable (type 5). And then the original page was reorganized so that all the fallacies contained therein were spun off into their own pages (type 3), while the original spin-off had developed through a sort of reverse TropeDecay into a full trope in its own right [[note]]An argument so riddled with flaws as to enter the realm of either {{parody}} or PoesLaw[[/note]].
* Everything listed in Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease counts as an example of a partial Example Sectionectomy; the scar tissue differs in that it contains "No real life examples, please!" rather than "No examples, please. This only defines the term.", as RealLife is the example subsection most prone to need pruning, for various subtly obvious reasons.
* NightmareFuel was originally HighOctaneNightmareFuel, with AccidentalNightmareFuel originally being Nightmare Fuel. Needless to say, the change was a little confusing for in-wiki links, but necessary due to people using the trope to describe anything they personally found scary. Even with the name changes, Nightmare Fuel pages for individual works ''still'' tended to get bloated with poor examples that just happened to coincide with a single person's fears (it's supposed to be things that are frightening to the entire general population), so the examples were tentatively removed -- this sparked a rather large backdraft. Currently, the Nightmare Fuel pages for works operate under what we're calling "Example Lobotomy" rules -- examples are allowed, but hyperbole, PurpleProse, and other forms of flowery page-bloating cruft are kept to a strict minimum.
!!Non-Wiki/TVTropes examples:
* Wikipedia's "in popular culture" sections were heavily cracked down on at one point as a reaction against "{{Fancruft}}" and rampant {{Entry Pimp}}ing, of the kind satirised in [[https://xkcd.com/446/ this]] ''Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'' cartoon. A lengthy Administrivia/EditWar about how much attention the depiction of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madame_de_Pompadour Madame de Pompadour]] in a ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode should have received on her page may have contributed.
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[[caption-width-right:350:FlameWar detected! Fire the {{chainsaw|Good}}!]]
Sometimes, the example section of a page gets bloated. The reasons why vary, but we typically deal with it in one of these ways:
* Prune the examples: Editors review the example list looking for ones that are poorly written (or [[SquarePegRoundTrope off-topic]]) which can be removed from the page, leaving behind the good examples.
* Kill it with fire: Delete the entire article as having poor focus. If it's determined that we don't want the page to ever come back in any form either, it joins the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub.
* [[DivideAndConquer Create a set of subpages for it]]: Useful if the page is sufficiently popular, and also sufficiently objective, that deletion is undesirable. (The results may possibly be put under SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki/DarthWiki if not objective, and sufficiently popular and straightforward (e.g., SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible).)
* Leave the trope where it is, but make the example section a separate page, sometimes on the SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki/DarthWiki.
* [[Administrivia/RenamedTropes Rename a trope.]] Sometimes it's the title which can cause the whole mess. See Administrivia/EverythingYouWantedToKnowAboutChangingNames for more detail on that front.
* Cut and prohibit all examples from the page: The course of action for which this page is named -- what's left is a readable definition and some scar tissue saying "No examples please. This only defines the term." Everything else goes in the wastebasket. [[note]]Sometimes, the Example Sectionectomy is pre-emptive, as was the case in the launching of PetPeeveTrope. This is typically used on the pages of [[TropesAreNotBad tropes that actually ARE bad.]][[/note]]
* Move examples to another wiki entirely. This measure is rarely taken, but it ''has'' happened, usually for content that gets too family-unfriendly for our tastes. Examples include FetishFuel and PerverseSexualLust.
For more detailed reasons behind cutting examples, have this format:
* Page X: Reason (Additional Notes) -- also Permalocked (if it is locked)
!!Examples of articles deleted entirely:
* Basically any member of the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub (aside from ThisTroper, and other deliberate redlinks).
!!Examples of articles split into multiple pages:
* Any page that was on Multipage Tropes back when we listed those.
* FridgeLogic → now largely located in the [[Headscratchers/HomePage Headscratchers namespace]] → Now combined with other Fridge thoughts in its own section.
!!Examples of articles cutting and prohibiting examples:
[[index]]
Too Contentious to List Examples (In other words: If we had these, we'd have InternetBackdraft, Edit Wars and FlameBait -- and in many cases, we speak from experience):
* EightPointEight
* AllMenAreRapists: Being part of the RapeAndSexualHarassmentTropes, this was [[PetPeeveTrope pre-emptive]], due to the nature ''not'' being TruthInTelevision and being very bad FlameBait. -- also [[Administrivia/LockedPages permalocked]]
* AngstAversion
* AwardSnub: Many of its examples had devolved into [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining about shows that had won]], along with {{Take That}}s towards those who lost.
* BaseBreakingCharacter -- also permalocked
* BileFascination -- also permalocked
* CanonDefilement
* CultClassic -- also permalocked
* DethroningMoment.DeathBattle: Since any episode can cause an InternetBackdraft from FandomRivalry, ''any'' episode can become this for someone, with examples devolving into Flaming and flat-out harassment. -- also permalocked
* FakeDifficulty
* FandomHeresy
* FanDumb
* FlameWar
* SugarWiki/FavoriteTrope
* TheFireflyEffect
* {{GIFT}}
* GarbagePostKid -- also permalocked
* {{Hatedom}}: May qualify as "Too Common", but this is marked as FlameBait -- also permalocked
* HateDumb
* Headscratchers.DeathBattle: Same as the other subpage above. -- also permalocked
* HypeBacklash
* InternetBackdraft
* InternetToughGuy: Many examples were reduced to people latching onto '''''anything''''' they saw as remotely "bad". -- also permalocked
* JumpingTheShark
* LowestCommonDenominator
* MightMakesRight
* OrwellianEditor -- also permalocked
* {{OTP}}
* PetPeeveTrope
* SacredCow
* SerialNumbersFiledOff: Very bad FlameBait, as it can attract instances of Complaining regarding a work [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks ripping off another work's features]], when it didn't. This may qualify as "Too Common", but this proves to be too bad an InternetBackdraft.
* SilentMajority
* {{Squick}} -- also permalocked
* StopHavingFunGuys
* SubbingVersusDubbing
* TaintedByThePreview
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot
* TropeEnjoymentLoophole
* TrueArtIsAncient: See the other TrueArt entries below.
* TrueArtIsBoring: See the other TrueArt entries below.
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: TrueArt used to have '''9''' pages, until 5/9 of them [[Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub were cut and locked]], due to them being nothing but Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike. This had caused {{Flame War}}s between fans of actual pieces of art and haters who think nothing is true art. This had also led to these three having all examples cut, with TrueArtIsAngsty being the only source for examples, albeit Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly. -- also permalocked
* UnpleasableFanbase -- also permalocked
* VideoGameMoviesSuck
* VocalMinority
* {{Waggle}} -- also permalocked
* {{Wangst}}
* WriterCopOut
Cases of MarySue (Its very hotly debated nature on the Internet and ThisVeryWiki, along with a vague definition makes it excellent kindling for accusations of this. Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well.):
* BlackHoleSue
* CanonSue
* CopyCatSue
* JerkSue
* PuritySue
* RelationshipSue
* SympatheticSue
* VillainSue
Content Issues (NSFW tropes and others related):
* AliensMadeThemDoIt -- also permalocked
* AnatomicallyImpossibleSex -- also permalocked
* BaraGenre -- also permalocked
* ComedicLolicon -- also permalocked
* ComedicUnderwearExposure
* {{Dominatrix}} -- also permalocked
* {{Ephebophile}} -- also permalocked
* ExplicitContent
* {{Fetish}} -- also permalocked
* FetishFuel -- also permalocked, with examples moved to a separate wiki
* FetishFuelFuture -- also permalocked
* {{Gorn}}: Creepy examples of this had caused its examples to be cut and locked. -- also permalocked
* {{Hentai}} -- also permalocked
* {{Het}} -- also permalocked
* {{Jumpscare}}
* {{Lemon}}
* {{Lime}}
* LoliconAndShotacon -- also permalocked
* NaughtyTentacles -- also permalocked
* PantyShot -- also permalocked
* PerverseSexualLust -- also permalocked
* RuleThirtyFour: We don't need to talk about pornographic popular culture ''here''.
* ShockSite -- also permalocked
* ToyShip
* {{Yiff}} -- also permalocked
* YouWouldMakeAGreatModel -- also permalocked
Too Common To List (Listing these would bloat the entire selection, even with subpages. It will also inevitably result in Administrivia/SignalToNoiseTrainwreck regardless of anything):
* AlbumFiller
* {{Backtracking}}
* {{Badass}}: General term for those in ListOfBadassTropes; no longer treated as a trope.
* CharacterDeath
* CharacterDevelopment
* EpicRiff
* FirstAppearance
* GameOver
* {{Geek}} -- also permalocked
* HappyEnding
* HolyShitQuotient
* ItMakesSenseInContext
* MistakenlyBanned
* MoralDilemma
* OriginalCharacter
* ProtagonistTitle
* RegularCharacter
* RecurringCharacter
* {{Shipping}}
* ShippingGoggles
* SturgeonsLaw
* VillainsActHeroesReact
* WTHCastingAgency
Too Speculative (Similarly with the Too Common section, these tropes rely too heavily on audience situations, and listing them would [[TropeDecay result in unwieldy sections]]):
* AccidentalNightmareFuel: Was once called NightmareFuel, with NightmareFuel being "High Octane Nightmare Fuel". However, when these got their names, this had suffered massive TropeDecay, being more subjective than NightmareFuel. As of now, even examples of this in YMMV pages of works only go into NightmareFuel. -- also permalocked
* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame
* AwesomenessWithdrawal
* IntendedAudienceReaction
* ItWasHisSled: Being a SquarePegRoundTrope, examples of this were reduced to accidental spoilerage and examples referring to ''any twist'', regardless of popularity. -- also permalocked
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt
* SoOkayItsAverage: This may be listed under "Too Common", but it being a SquarePegRoundTrope and many examples being HypeBacklash (expected to be good but becomes average) has caused TropeDecay.
* TheUntwist
Fanspeak terms (These tropes define terminology that the audience commonly uses to define attributes or incidents, and this wiki already has its own equivalents to them):
* UsefulNotes/{{Baka}}
* {{Bishoujo}} -- also permalocked
* {{Dandere}} (to ShrinkingViolet and SugarAndIcePersonality) -- also permalocked
* {{Dojikko}} (to CuteClumsyGirl)
* {{Kuudere}} (to SugarAndIcePersonality) -- also permalocked
* {{Macekre}} (to CutAndPasteTranslation and {{Bowdlerise}})
* {{Megane}} (to {{Meganekko}}, StoicSpectacles, SexySpectacles, and ScaryShinyGlasses)
* {{Netorare}} (to {{Cuckold}})
* UsefulNotes/{{Pettanko}} (to ACupAngst and PetitePride)
* TakahashiCouple (to BelligerentSexualTension, except for examples from Creator/RumikoTakahashi's own works)
* TechFu (to GadgeteerGenius and MadScientist) -- also permalocked
* {{Whoring}}
Index Preservation (These pages are only meant to be an index, meaning that indexes will become this by default (unless it allows examples):
* AsianIndex
* AttractionToOutliers
* BlackIndex
* TheWarOnStraw
* ThisIndexIsBrown
Unsorted:
* ConstructiveCriticism
[[/index]]
!!Examples of segregated examples:
* {{Narm}} → [=DarthWiki/Narm=] Which was later moved back to Narm.
* [[AvertedTrope Aversions]] of TheProblemWithLicensedGames were moved to SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames.
!!Examples of Administrivia/RenamedTropes:
* Boring Invincible Hero → InvincibleHero
* You Fail X Forever Pages → Artistic License - X (e.g., You Fail Biology Forever → ArtisticLicenseBiology)
!!Examples of dumping the examples list on another wiki:
* FetishFuel
* TroperTales, although that's long gone. Today, the Troper Tales are all but lost.
!!Mixed examples:
* MarySue received somewhat of a 2/4 hybrid, with the article being (almost?) completely re-written and losing all the examples. Though now it seems the new page is a stitched-up combo of the two versions a la Frankenstein's monster... We're not sure what to call it.
* YouFailLogicForever initially had a spin-off page (InsaneTrollLogic) for listing non-specific examples as the page had become rather bloated, and a release valve for non-specific examples was thought desirable (type 5). And then the original page was reorganized so that all the fallacies contained therein were spun off into their own pages (type 3), while the original spin-off had developed through a sort of reverse TropeDecay into a full trope in its own right [[note]]An argument so riddled with flaws as to enter the realm of either {{parody}} or PoesLaw[[/note]].
* Everything listed in Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease counts as an example of a partial Example Sectionectomy; the scar tissue differs in that it contains "No real life examples, please!" rather than "No examples, please. This only defines the term.", as RealLife is the example subsection most prone to need pruning, for various subtly obvious reasons.
* NightmareFuel was originally HighOctaneNightmareFuel, with AccidentalNightmareFuel originally being Nightmare Fuel. Needless to say, the change was a little confusing for in-wiki links, but necessary due to people using the trope to describe anything they personally found scary. Even with the name changes, Nightmare Fuel pages for individual works ''still'' tended to get bloated with poor examples that just happened to coincide with a single person's fears (it's supposed to be things that are frightening to the entire general population), so the examples were tentatively removed -- this sparked a rather large backdraft. Currently, the Nightmare Fuel pages for works operate under what we're calling "Example Lobotomy" rules -- examples are allowed, but hyperbole, PurpleProse, and other forms of flowery page-bloating cruft are kept to a strict minimum.
!!Non-Wiki/TVTropes examples:
* Wikipedia's "in popular culture" sections were heavily cracked down on at one point as a reaction against "{{Fancruft}}" and rampant {{Entry Pimp}}ing, of the kind satirised in [[https://xkcd.com/446/ this]] ''Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'' cartoon. A lengthy Administrivia/EditWar about how much attention the depiction of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madame_de_Pompadour Madame de Pompadour]] in a ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode should have received on her page may have contributed.
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I told you a MILLION FUCKING TIMES: This is '''TV TROPES''', NOT "TV NAMESPACES" or "WIKIPEDIA FOR SPAMMERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This stupid, pointless, unstoppable NAMESPACE SPAM/PLAGUE SHIT has been TAKING OVER and INVADING the
Sometimes, the example section of a page gets bloated. The reasons why vary, but we typically deal with it in one of these ways:
* Prune the examples: Editors review the example list looking for ones that are poorly written (or [[SquarePegRoundTrope off-topic]])
* Kill it with fire: Delete the entire article as having poor focus.
Namespaces are SUPPOSED to be ONLY used for friggin' ADAPTATIONS, NAMESAKE ARTICLES, SUBPAGES, and SUB-WIKIS, NOT workpages or "creator" pages or "Useful Notes" pages in GENERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If
* [[DivideAndConquer Create a set of subpages for it]]: Useful if the page is sufficiently popular, and also sufficiently objective, that deletion is undesirable. (The results may possibly be put under SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki/DarthWiki if not objective, and sufficiently popular and straightforward (e.g., SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible).)
* Leave the trope where it is, but make the example section a separate page, sometimes on the SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki/DarthWiki.
* [[Administrivia/RenamedTropes Rename a trope.]] Sometimes it's the title which can cause the whole mess. See Administrivia/EverythingYouWantedToKnowAboutChangingNames for more detail on that front.
* Cut and prohibit all examples from the page: The course of action for which this page is named -- what's left is a readable definition and some scar tissue saying "No examples please. This only defines the term." Everything else goes in the wastebasket. [[note]]Sometimes, the Example Sectionectomy is pre-emptive, as was the case in the launching of PetPeeveTrope. This is typically used on the pages of [[TropesAreNotBad tropes that actually ARE bad.]][[/note]]
* Move examples to another wiki entirely. This measure is rarely taken, but it ''has'' happened, usually for content that gets too family-unfriendly for our tastes. Examples include FetishFuel and PerverseSexualLust.
For more detailed reasons behind cutting examples, have this format:
* Page X: Reason (Additional Notes) -- also Permalocked (if it is locked)
!!Examples of
* Basically any member of the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub (aside from ThisTroper,
!!Examples of articles split into multiple pages:
* Any page that was on Multipage Tropes back when we listed those.
* FridgeLogic → now largely located in the [[Headscratchers/HomePage Headscratchers namespace]] → Now combined with other Fridge thoughts in its own section.
!!Examples of articles cutting and prohibiting examples:
[[index]]
Too Contentious to List Examples (In other words: If we had these, we'd have InternetBackdraft, Edit Wars and FlameBait -- and in many cases, we speak from experience):
* EightPointEight
* AllMenAreRapists: Being part of the RapeAndSexualHarassmentTropes, this was [[PetPeeveTrope pre-emptive]], due to the nature ''not'' being TruthInTelevision and being very bad FlameBait. -- also [[Administrivia/LockedPages permalocked]]
* AngstAversion
* AwardSnub: Many of its examples had devolved into [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining about shows that had won]], along with {{Take That}}s towards those who lost.
* BaseBreakingCharacter -- also permalocked
* BileFascination -- also permalocked
* CanonDefilement
* CultClassic -- also permalocked
* DethroningMoment.DeathBattle: Since any episode can cause an InternetBackdraft from FandomRivalry, ''any'' episode can become this for someone, with examples devolving into Flaming and flat-out harassment. -- also permalocked
* FakeDifficulty
* FandomHeresy
* FanDumb
* FlameWar
* SugarWiki/FavoriteTrope
* TheFireflyEffect
* {{GIFT}}
* GarbagePostKid -- also permalocked
* {{Hatedom}}: May qualify as "Too Common", but this is marked as FlameBait -- also permalocked
* HateDumb
* Headscratchers.DeathBattle: Same as the other subpage above. -- also permalocked
* HypeBacklash
* InternetBackdraft
* InternetToughGuy: Many examples were reduced to people latching onto '''''anything''''' they saw as remotely "bad". -- also permalocked
* JumpingTheShark
* LowestCommonDenominator
* MightMakesRight
* OrwellianEditor -- also permalocked
* {{OTP}}
* PetPeeveTrope
* SacredCow
* SerialNumbersFiledOff: Very bad FlameBait, as it can attract instances of Complaining regarding a work [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks ripping off another work's features]], when it didn't. This may qualify as "Too Common", but this proves to be too bad an InternetBackdraft.
* SilentMajority
* {{Squick}} -- also permalocked
* StopHavingFunGuys
* SubbingVersusDubbing
* TaintedByThePreview
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot
* TropeEnjoymentLoophole
* TrueArtIsAncient: See the other TrueArt entries below.
* TrueArtIsBoring: See the other TrueArt entries below.
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: TrueArt used to have '''9''' pages, until 5/9 of
* UnpleasableFanbase -- also permalocked
* VideoGameMoviesSuck
* VocalMinority
* {{Waggle}} -- also permalocked
* {{Wangst}}
* WriterCopOut
Cases of MarySue (Its very hotly debated nature on the Internet and ThisVeryWiki, along with a vague definition makes it excellent kindling for accusations of this. Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well.):
* BlackHoleSue
* CanonSue
* CopyCatSue
* JerkSue
* PuritySue
* RelationshipSue
* SympatheticSue
* VillainSue
Content Issues (NSFW tropes and others related):
* AliensMadeThemDoIt -- also permalocked
* AnatomicallyImpossibleSex -- also permalocked
* BaraGenre -- also permalocked
* ComedicLolicon -- also permalocked
* ComedicUnderwearExposure
* {{Dominatrix}} -- also permalocked
* {{Ephebophile}} -- also permalocked
* ExplicitContent
* {{Fetish}} -- also permalocked
* FetishFuel -- also permalocked, with examples moved to a separate wiki
* FetishFuelFuture -- also permalocked
* {{Gorn}}: Creepy examples of this had caused its examples to be cut and locked. -- also permalocked
* {{Hentai}} -- also permalocked
* {{Het}} -- also permalocked
* {{Jumpscare}}
* {{Lemon}}
* {{Lime}}
* LoliconAndShotacon -- also permalocked
* NaughtyTentacles -- also permalocked
* PantyShot -- also permalocked
* PerverseSexualLust -- also permalocked
* RuleThirtyFour: We don't need to talk about pornographic popular culture ''here''.
* ShockSite -- also permalocked
* ToyShip
* {{Yiff}} -- also permalocked
* YouWouldMakeAGreatModel -- also permalocked
Too Common To List (Listing these would bloat the entire selection, even with subpages. It will also inevitably result in Administrivia/SignalToNoiseTrainwreck regardless of anything):
* AlbumFiller
* {{Backtracking}}
* {{Badass}}: General term for those in ListOfBadassTropes; no longer treated as a trope.
* CharacterDeath
* CharacterDevelopment
* EpicRiff
* FirstAppearance
* GameOver
* {{Geek}} -- also permalocked
* HappyEnding
* HolyShitQuotient
* ItMakesSenseInContext
* MistakenlyBanned
* MoralDilemma
* OriginalCharacter
* ProtagonistTitle
* RegularCharacter
* RecurringCharacter
* {{Shipping}}
* ShippingGoggles
* SturgeonsLaw
* VillainsActHeroesReact
* WTHCastingAgency
Too Speculative (Similarly with the Too Common section, these tropes rely too heavily on audience situations, and listing them would [[TropeDecay result in unwieldy sections]]):
* AccidentalNightmareFuel: Was once called NightmareFuel, with NightmareFuel being "High Octane Nightmare Fuel". However, when these got their names, this had suffered massive TropeDecay, being more subjective than NightmareFuel. As of now, even examples of this in YMMV pages of works only go into NightmareFuel. -- also permalocked
* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame
* AwesomenessWithdrawal
* IntendedAudienceReaction
* ItWasHisSled: Being a SquarePegRoundTrope, examples of this were reduced to accidental spoilerage and examples referring to ''any twist'', regardless of popularity. -- also permalocked
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt
* SoOkayItsAverage: This may be listed under "Too Common", but it being a SquarePegRoundTrope and many examples being HypeBacklash (expected to be good but becomes average) has caused TropeDecay.
* TheUntwist
Fanspeak terms (These tropes define terminology that the audience commonly uses to define attributes or incidents, and this wiki already has its own equivalents to them):
* UsefulNotes/{{Baka}}
* {{Bishoujo}} -- also permalocked
* {{Dandere}} (to ShrinkingViolet and SugarAndIcePersonality) -- also permalocked
* {{Dojikko}} (to CuteClumsyGirl)
* {{Kuudere}} (to SugarAndIcePersonality) -- also permalocked
* {{Macekre}} (to CutAndPasteTranslation and {{Bowdlerise}})
* {{Megane}} (to {{Meganekko}}, StoicSpectacles, SexySpectacles, and ScaryShinyGlasses)
* {{Netorare}} (to {{Cuckold}})
* UsefulNotes/{{Pettanko}} (to ACupAngst and PetitePride)
* TakahashiCouple (to BelligerentSexualTension, except for examples from Creator/RumikoTakahashi's own works)
* TechFu (to GadgeteerGenius and MadScientist) -- also permalocked
* {{Whoring}}
Index Preservation (These pages are only meant to be an index, meaning that indexes will become this by default (unless it allows examples):
* AsianIndex
* AttractionToOutliers
* BlackIndex
* TheWarOnStraw
* ThisIndexIsBrown
Unsorted:
* ConstructiveCriticism
[[/index]]
!!Examples of segregated examples:
* {{Narm}} → [=DarthWiki/Narm=] Which was later moved back to Narm.
* [[AvertedTrope Aversions]] of TheProblemWithLicensedGames were moved to SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames.
!!Examples of Administrivia/RenamedTropes:
* Boring Invincible Hero → InvincibleHero
* You Fail X Forever Pages → Artistic License - X (e.g., You Fail Biology Forever → ArtisticLicenseBiology)
!!Examples of dumping the examples list on another wiki:
* FetishFuel
* TroperTales, although that's long gone. Today, the Troper Tales are all but lost.
!!Mixed examples:
* MarySue received somewhat of a 2/4 hybrid, with the article being (almost?) completely re-written and losing all the examples. Though now it seems the new page is a stitched-up combo of the two versions a la Frankenstein's monster... We're not sure what to call it.
* YouFailLogicForever initially had a spin-off page (InsaneTrollLogic) for listing non-specific examples as the page had become rather bloated, and a release valve for non-specific examples was thought desirable (type 5). And then the original page was reorganized so that all the fallacies contained therein were spun off into their own pages (type 3), while the original spin-off had developed through a sort of reverse TropeDecay into a full trope in its own right [[note]]An argument so riddled with flaws as to enter the realm of either {{parody}} or PoesLaw[[/note]].
* Everything listed in Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease counts as an example of a partial Example Sectionectomy; the scar tissue differs in that it contains "No real life examples, please!" rather than "No examples, please. This only defines the term.", as RealLife is the example subsection most prone to need pruning, for various subtly obvious reasons.
* NightmareFuel was originally HighOctaneNightmareFuel, with AccidentalNightmareFuel originally being Nightmare Fuel. Needless to say, the change was a little confusing for in-wiki links, but necessary due to people using the trope to describe anything they personally found scary. Even with the name changes, Nightmare Fuel pages for individual works ''still'' tended to get bloated with poor examples that just happened to coincide with a single person's fears (it's supposed to be things that are frightening to the entire general population), so the examples were tentatively removed -- this sparked a rather large backdraft. Currently, the Nightmare Fuel pages for works operate under what we're calling "Example Lobotomy" rules -- examples are allowed, but hyperbole, PurpleProse, and other forms of flowery page-bloating cruft are kept to a strict minimum.
!!Non-Wiki/TVTropes examples:
* Wikipedia's "in popular culture" sections were heavily cracked down on at one point as a reaction against "{{Fancruft}}" and rampant {{Entry Pimp}}ing, of the kind satirised in [[https://xkcd.com/446/ this]] ''Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'' cartoon. A lengthy Administrivia/EditWar about how much attention the depiction of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madame_de_Pompadour Madame de Pompadour]] in a ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode should have received on her page may have contributed.
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* DethroningMoment.DeathBattle: Since any episode can cause an InternetBackdraft from FandomRivalry, ''any'' episode can become this for someone, with examples devolving into Flaming and flat out harassment. -- also permalocked
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* DethroningMoment.DeathBattle: Since any episode can cause an InternetBackdraft from FandomRivalry, ''any'' episode can become this for someone, with examples devolving into Flaming and flat out flat-out harassment. -- also permalocked
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Cases of MarySue Its very hotly debated nature on the Internet and ThisVeryWiki, along with a vague definition makes it excellent kindling for accusations of this. (Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well.):
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Cases of MarySue Its (Its very hotly debated nature on the Internet and ThisVeryWiki, along with a vague definition makes it excellent kindling for accusations of this. (Falls Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well.):
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* AwardSnub: Many of it's examples had devolved into [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining about shows that had won]], along with [[TakeThat Take Thats]] towards those who lost.
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* AwardSnub: Many of it's its examples had devolved into [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining about shows that had won]], along with [[TakeThat Take Thats]] {{Take That}}s towards those who lost.
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* {{Hatedom}} (May be qualified as "too common", but this is marked as FlameBait) -- also permalocked
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* {{Hatedom}} (May be qualified {{Hatedom}}: May qualify as "too common", "Too Common", but this is marked as FlameBait) FlameBait -- also permalocked
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: TrueArt used to have '''9''' pages, until 5/9 of them [[Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub were cut and locked]], due to them being nothing but Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike. This had caused flame wars between fans of actual pieces of art and haters who think nothing is true art. This had also led to these three having all examples cut, with TrueArtIsAngsty being the only source for examples, albeit Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly -- also permalocked
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: TrueArt used to have '''9''' pages, until 5/9 of them [[Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub were cut and locked]], due to them being nothing but Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike. This had caused flame wars {{Flame War}}s between fans of actual pieces of art and haters who think nothing is true art. This had also led to these three having all examples cut, with TrueArtIsAngsty being the only source for examples, albeit Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly. -- also permalocked
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Cases of MarySue: It's very hotly debated nature on the Internet and ThisVeryWiki, along with a vague definition makes it excellent kindling for accusations of this. (Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well)
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Cases of MarySue: It's MarySue Its very hotly debated nature on the Internet and ThisVeryWiki, along with a vague definition makes it excellent kindling for accusations of this. (Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well)
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* {{Gorn}}: Creepy examples of this had caused it's examples to be cut and locked. -- also permalocked
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* {{Gorn}}: Creepy examples of this had caused it's its examples to be cut and locked. -- also permalocked
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Too Speculative (Similarly with the common section, these tropes rely too heavily on audience situations, and listing them would [[TropeDecay result in unwieldy sections]]):
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Too Speculative (Similarly with the common Too Common section, these tropes rely too heavily on audience situations, and listing them would [[TropeDecay result in unwieldy sections]]):
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* ItWasHisSled: Being a SquarePegRoundTrope, examples of this were reduced to accidental spoilerage and examples refering to ''any twist'', regardless of popularity. -- also permalocked
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* ItWasHisSled: Being a SquarePegRoundTrope, examples of this were reduced to accidental spoilerage and examples refering referring to ''any twist'', regardless of popularity. -- also permalocked
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* SoOkayItsAverage: This may be listed under "Too Common", but it being a SquarePegRoundTrope and many examples being HypeBacklash (Expected to be good but becomes average) has caused TropeDecay.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: This may be listed under "Too Common", but it being a SquarePegRoundTrope and many examples being HypeBacklash (Expected (expected to be good but becomes average) has caused TropeDecay.
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Fanspeak terms (These tropes define terminology that the audience commonly uses to define attributes or incidents, and this wiki already has its own equivalents to them)
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Fanspeak terms (These tropes define terminology that the audience commonly uses to define attributes or incidents, and this wiki already has its own equivalents to them)
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Index Preservation (These pages are only meant to be an index, meaning that indexes will become this by default (unless it allows examples)
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Index Preservation (These pages are only meant to be an index, meaning that indexes will become this by default (unless it allows examples)
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* You Fail X Forever Pages → Artistic License - X (e.g. You Fail Biology Forever → ArtisticLicenseBiology)
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* You Fail X Forever Pages → Artistic License - X (e.g. , You Fail Biology Forever → ArtisticLicenseBiology)
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* MarySue received somewhat of a 2/4 hybrid, with the article being (almost?) completely re-written and losing all the examples. Though now it seems the new page is a stitched-up combo of the two versions a-la Frankenstein's monster... We're not sure what to call it.
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* MarySue received somewhat of a 2/4 hybrid, with the article being (almost?) completely re-written and losing all the examples. Though now it seems the new page is a stitched-up combo of the two versions a-la a la Frankenstein's monster... We're not sure what to call it.
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: TrueArt used to have '''9''' pages, until 5/9 of them [[Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub were cut and locked]], due to them being nothing but Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike. This had caused Flame Wars between Fans of actual pieces of art and Haters who think nothing as true art. This had also lead to these three having all examples cut, with TrueArtIsAngsty being the only source for examples, albeit Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly. -- also permalocked
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: TrueArt used to have '''9''' pages, until 5/9 of them [[Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub were cut and locked]], due to them being nothing but Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike. This had caused Flame Wars flame wars between Fans fans of actual pieces of art and Haters haters who think nothing as is true art. This had also lead led to these three having all examples cut, with TrueArtIsAngsty being the only source for examples, albeit Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly. Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly -- also permalocked
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: TrueArt used to have '''9''' pages, until 5/9 of them [[Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub were cut and locked]], due to them being nothing but Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike. This had caused Flame Wars between Fans of actual pieces of art and Haters who think nothing as true art. This had also lead to these three having all examples cut, with TrueArtIsAngsty being the only source for examples, albeit InUniverseExamplesOnly. -- also permalocked
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: TrueArt used to have '''9''' pages, until 5/9 of them [[Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub were cut and locked]], due to them being nothing but Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike. This had caused Flame Wars between Fans of actual pieces of art and Haters who think nothing as true art. This had also lead to these three having all examples cut, with TrueArtIsAngsty being the only source for examples, albeit InUniverseExamplesOnly.Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly. -- also permalocked
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Too Contentious to List Examples: (In other words: If we had these, we'd have edit wars -- and in many cases, we speak from experience)
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Too Contentious to List Examples: (In other words: If we had these, we'd have edit wars InternetBackdraft, Edit Wars and FlameBait -- and in many cases, we speak from experience)
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* AllMenAreRapists -- also [[Administrivia/LockedPages permalocked]]
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* AllMenAreRapists AllMenAreRapists: Being part of the RapeAndSexualHarassmentTropes, this was [[PetPeeveTrope pre-emptive]], due to the nature ''not'' being TruthInTelevision and being very bad FlameBait. -- also [[Administrivia/LockedPages permalocked]]
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* AwardSnub
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* AwardSnubAwardSnub: Many of it's examples had devolved into [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining about shows that had won]], along with [[TakeThat Take Thats]] towards those who lost.
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* DethroningMoment.DeathBattle and Headscratchers.DeathBattle -- also permalocked
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* DethroningMoment.DeathBattle DeathBattle: Since any episode can cause an InternetBackdraft from FandomRivalry, ''any'' episode can become this for someone, with examples devolving into Flaming and Headscratchers.DeathBattle flat out harassment. -- also permalocked
* Headscratchers.DeathBattle: Same as the other subpage above. -- also permalocked
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* InternetToughGuy InternetToughGuy: Many examples were reduced to people latching onto '''''anything''''' they saw as remotely "bad". -- also permalocked
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* SerialNumbersFiledOff (might also qualify as "too common", but the FlameBait potential is there; accusations of being a "ripoff" never end well, especially when combined with fannish obsession.)
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* SerialNumbersFiledOff (might also SerialNumbersFiledOff: Very bad FlameBait, as it can attract instances of Complaining regarding a work [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks ripping off another work's features]], when it didn't. This may qualify as "too common", "Too Common", but the FlameBait potential is there; accusations of being a "ripoff" never end well, especially when combined with fannish obsession.)this proves to be too bad an InternetBackdraft.
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* TrueArtIsAncient
* TrueArtIsBoring
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible -- also permalocked
* TrueArtIsBoring
* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible -- also permalocked
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* TrueArtIsAncient
TrueArtIsAncient: See the other TrueArt entries below.
*TrueArtIsBoring
TrueArtIsBoring: See the other TrueArt entries below.
*TrueArtIsIncomprehensible TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: TrueArt used to have '''9''' pages, until 5/9 of them [[Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub were cut and locked]], due to them being nothing but Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike. This had caused Flame Wars between Fans of actual pieces of art and Haters who think nothing as true art. This had also lead to these three having all examples cut, with TrueArtIsAngsty being the only source for examples, albeit InUniverseExamplesOnly. -- also permalocked
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Cases of MarySue: (Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well)
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Cases of MarySue: It's very hotly debated nature on the Internet and ThisVeryWiki, along with a vague definition makes it excellent kindling for accusations of this. (Falls under Too Contentious, above, but constitutes a category of its own as well)
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* {{Gorn}} -- also permalocked
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* {{Gorn}} {{Gorn}}: Creepy examples of this had caused it's examples to be cut and locked. -- also permalocked
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* RuleThirtyFour
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* RuleThirtyFourRuleThirtyFour: We don't need to talk about pornographic popular culture ''here''.
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* {{Badass}} (General term for those in ListOfBadassTropes; no longer treated as a trope)
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* {{Badass}} (General {{Badass}}: General term for those in ListOfBadassTropes; no longer treated as a trope)trope.
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* SoOkayItsAverage
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Too Speculative (Similarly with the common section, these tropes rely too heavily on audience situations, and listing them would result in unwieldy sections):
* AccidentalNightmareFuel -- also permalocked
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*AccidentalNightmareFuel AccidentalNightmareFuel: Was once called NightmareFuel, with NightmareFuel being "High Octane Nightmare Fuel". However, when these got their names, this had suffered massive TropeDecay, being more subjective than NightmareFuel. As of now, even examples of this in YMMV pages of works only go into NightmareFuel. -- also permalocked
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* ItWasHisSled -- also permalocked
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* ItWasHisSled ItWasHisSled: Being a SquarePegRoundTrope, examples of this were reduced to accidental spoilerage and examples refering to ''any twist'', regardless of popularity. -- also permalocked
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* SoOkayItsAverage: This may be listed under "Too Common", but it being a SquarePegRoundTrope and many examples being HypeBacklash (Expected to be good but becomes average) has caused TropeDecay.
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* [[DivideAndConquer Create a set of subpages for it]]: Useful if the page is sufficiently popular, and also sufficiently objective, that deletion is undesirable. (The results may possibly be put under SugarWiki or DarthWiki if not objective, and sufficiently popular and straightforward (e.g., SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible).)
* Leave the trope where it is, but make the example section a separate page, sometimes on the SugarWiki or DarthWiki.
* Leave the trope where it is, but make the example section a separate page, sometimes on the SugarWiki or DarthWiki.
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* [[DivideAndConquer Create a set of subpages for it]]: Useful if the page is sufficiently popular, and also sufficiently objective, that deletion is undesirable. (The results may possibly be put under SugarWiki SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki DarthWiki/DarthWiki if not objective, and sufficiently popular and straightforward (e.g., SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible).)
* Leave the trope where it is, but make the example section a separate page, sometimes on theSugarWiki SugarWiki/SugarWiki or DarthWiki.DarthWiki/DarthWiki.
* Leave the trope where it is, but make the example section a separate page, sometimes on the
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* HolyShitQuotent
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* HolyShitQuotentHolyShitQuotient
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* NeutralHatedom