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07:07:46 PM Mar 9th 2016
I'm confused by this, particularly the last part:

  • Killed Off for Real: Billy, Cookie, Keeoth, the Freak Deer, Fight King, Abe Lincoln, and more. For a kids show, Adventure Time adheres pretty strictly to All Deaths Final. Inverted with the Lich, who gets Revived For Real.

The show doesn't seem to adhere to All Deaths Final at all? Resurrection is confirmed to be possible and pretty easy as early as the princess plant episode, and multiple characters (Tree Trunks, Jake, Prismo, and Root Beer Guy, just off the top of my head) have been brought back from death or death-like situations. It's actually practically impossible to confirm any character as Killed Off for Real in this show, given how fond it is of wacky revival mechanics.

I'm also not sure what Cookie the list is referring to? Princess Cookie never died. Also, Glob should probably be added to this list, as they're a major recurring character.
06:55:22 AM Mar 12th 2016
Hello? Anyone here? How's this for a revision:

I figure we shouldn't include one-off characters; since the show loves revisiting old plot points we shouldn't be confident they won't come back, and if they don't, well, they're minor characters, so it's not very significant.
01:06:46 AM Mar 13th 2016
That example is too heavily disclaimed. I recommend to not add it.
08:40:28 AM Mar 13th 2016
Which example? Ghost Princess or all of it?
06:47:08 AM Mar 14th 2016
I say leave it off until the show finishes. We don't want a list of characters who are "Killed Off For Now And The Natter Points Out This May Be Temporary."
01:29:00 PM Mar 14th 2016
I figure my additional caveat should discourage that, but the necessity of the caveat just goes to show why it's a shakey example. Given the Loads and Loads of Characters I do think it's valuable to have a list of characters who haven't been revived yet, but we can leave it out if people agree that's for the best.
05:16:47 PM Nov 1st 2015
Should the miniseries "Stakes" have its own page or should its episodes just be put in AT's recap page? Stakes seems like it's going to be big and Regular Show's made-for-TV movie got its own page.
09:01:57 AM Feb 13th 2015
How in the ACTUAL HELL is Lemongrab,Finn,and Jake still alive in the new episode "The Mountain"???? I know that the original Lemongrab and Lemongrab 2 died, and PB made a LG 3, but how is he still alive? PB made LG 3 during original LG's reign, which was THOUSANDS of years ago. I don't get it. could someone explain this to me that's seen either of the Lemonhope episodes and or "The Mountain"?
11:53:08 AM Jun 30th 2014
Does anyone think Adventure Time will ever Win Back the Crowd? Anyone? Anyone at all?
12:44:34 PM Jun 30th 2014
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You'd need to lose the crowd to win it back. And as much as you hate it, it hasn't really lost the crowd.
09:52:24 AM Jun 26th 2014
OMG, Food Chain is the weirdest episode ever! XD It's Season 6 Episode 7. Here's a link. ^^;

01:56:35 PM Apr 26th 2014
Why is Adventure Time suddenly all caps and one word on every page?
02:31:46 AM Apr 27th 2014
Prolly a bad Custom Title. It's no more there, anyhow.
08:45:45 AM Mar 12th 2014
I think that on the subpages where examples are sorted in folders by season, we should split the "Season 5" folder into two parts, since that season is twice as long as the other seasons. Part one would contain episodes from "Finn the Human" to "Wizards Only, Fools", and part two would contain everything after that.

Are there any objections?
10:56:07 AM Feb 10th 2014
Okay everyone, I'm gonna do some clean-up on the YMMV page of Adventure Time, a lot of it is way too wordy and/or doesn't make any sense in the context of the show. I will also be rewording some of them to make it more accurate.
02:34:49 AM Dec 16th 2013
Can we please have people adding tropes and details to the new recap pages?
11:55:09 PM Apr 25th 2013
Can someone please remove the Depraved Homosexual trope from the listed traits for Lemongrab? I'm not going to bother disputing how depraved or homosexual he might or might not be, but either way it's a blatant misuse of the trope as none of his negative attributes associate at all with his ambiguously gay ones.
04:21:49 AM Apr 9th 2013
Why is there so little focus around Flame Princess outside of episodes dedicated to her? It seems like if the episode is not about her we barely get a comment that she exists.
09:10:15 PM Jun 14th 2013
She's a relatively new character, and of course there are those who would like to pretend she doesn't exist...
08:05:42 AM Feb 28th 2013
what's with all the stupid flickr images? they don't work and try to redirect me to a stupid yahoo register page. no.
06:37:35 AM Mar 6th 2014
(A year later) They don't redirect me to a registration page, but 90% of them seem to be dead 404 pages.
05:19:32 AM Jan 1st 2013
Why isn't the Cosmic Owl in any of the characters pages anymore?
02:51:05 PM Dec 19th 2012
Should we make a new page for the game?
04:27:25 PM Jan 2nd 2013
Considering we have pages for both of the comic book adaptations, I'd say yes
06:01:17 PM Nov 27th 2012
edited by Chefcook90
Behold the alignment diamond and discuss! Made with 25 recurring characters, except Me-Mow depending on whether or not you count the comics; this is my ballpark guess of what their alignments are.(I'm thinking of moving this from Main discussion to Character discussion, since it has more to do with the characters than general discussion)




......................................................Lincoln................BMO..............Cinnamon Bun


-LAWFUL-......Cosmic Owl..............Death.............The Snail............Lemongrab............Ice King.......-CHAOTIC-

....................................Peppermint.........King Worm...........Ricardio.................Magic Man

.......................................................Me-Mow.....Flame Princess.....Hunson Abadeer

.................................................................Flame King.........The Lich



03:38:03 AM Nov 28th 2012
That's cool; thanks for taking the time to make it! Remember that character alignment tropes don't go on the main wiki page, of course.
08:24:28 AM Mar 17th 2013
What about the unaligned ant?
11:33:00 PM Jan 10th 2014
He's, you know, neutral...
09:51:12 AM Jun 26th 2014
This is pretty good! :) But I think the King Worm and Flame Princess should switch places.

Sure Flame Princess is violently emotional and dangerous and her kingdom is full of evil people (or at least her dad is), but she's a bit more Chaotic Neutral than that...

King Worm however brainwashed Finn and Jake into, um... "hugging" him, and then he trapped them in some kind of dream world many seasons later and they had to get out. Although rather minor, he's about as antagonistic as all the other villains like Magic Man or something. :p
05:37:38 AM Nov 9th 2012
I feel it prudent to alert fellow tropers of this and this regarding season 5 and such. I won't link the other trailer, it's easier to find and much more well known.

05:36:19 PM Sep 19th 2012
Possible reference in "Who Would Win?"? If you recall, when Jake and Finn are fighting 'each other,' at one point Finn literally bites Jake's butt. Jake is voiced by John Di Maggio. John Di Maggio's other very well-known character is Bender from 'Futurama.' Whose catchphrase is, "Bite my shiny metal ass!" Hmm.
04:13:00 PM Oct 4th 2012
I noticed that too...hmm...
05:48:56 PM Sep 16th 2012
I think we should just remove all the Lemongrab entries, about 97% of them are Square Peg, Round Trope anyways.
03:18:30 PM Jul 7th 2012
I wonder...has somebody already come up with an Adventure Time GURPS adaptation?
07:47:16 PM Jul 4th 2012
edited by KuroKokoro
Can we stop with the Lemongrab b'awwwwing? It's starting to get rediculous. (And I just realized it's one guy making all the comments)
05:28:28 PM Aug 28th 2012
There is a question on Lemongrab I have. A different user is putting in a ton of scenes in the Nightmare Fuel, Tear Jerker, and Crowning Moment of Funny pages. As in, he says he considers the exact same scene nightmare fuel, tear worthy, and hilarious all at the same time. Is that even allowed? Or is someone just trying to push Lemongrab on everyone?
10:17:19 PM Sep 5th 2012
edited by KuroKokoro
I'm starting to think the latter. (And I'm starting to think that one guy has multiple accounts, they all have identical writing styles)
09:07:53 AM Sep 11th 2012
I've sent a PM to one, but the other is still going.
10:05:56 AM Oct 12th 2012
There is a HUGE section of the Headscratchers page where he's just having a argument with himself (pretending to be different people, even) over Lemongrab. Should we just delete it?
09:14:57 PM Jun 14th 2013
Not to mention the massive section of the Fridge Horror page dedicated to talking about how awful Lemongrab's situation is. Much of it is exactly the same sentiment posted over and over, with frequent bashing of Princess Bubblegum for bonus points. Might want to delete that too.
10:18:47 PM Jul 14th 2013
Yeah, apparently he/she has some major unresolved mommy issues.
01:20:33 AM Aug 17th 2013
Can someone please get to deleting all the excess Lemongrab stuff on all the sections, it's about as annoying as the character himself.
04:05:35 PM May 2nd 2012
Does Lumpy Space Princess come off as a Creator's Pet to anyone else? I mean yeah, Pen trying to sound like a valley girl is funny at first, but that's really all there is to her, it seems like. And then it gets annoying to hear this voice for very long.

She's needlessly put into a lot of episodes, too, and rarely does much. I mean, how many plots would be unaffected if some of her cameos were cut out?
07:49:38 PM Jun 4th 2012
The same can be said for a few of the other princesses in the non incidental roles in episodes. Yeah, she can come off as a Creator's Pet, but from a writing stand point, it's an easy setup for an number of jokes, with a more fleshed out back story than say, Breakfast Princess, to play with.
04:59:53 PM Mar 24th 2012
Why is LSP listed as an Ensemble Darkhorse and a Scrappy?
04:03:03 PM May 2nd 2012
I guess that'd put her in Base Breaker territory. Speaking of which...
09:07:32 PM Mar 17th 2012
Anyone else think that maybe Marceline and the Ice King are actively avoiding each other? They've only once appeared in the same scene together, at the end of Holly Jolly Secrets II, and Marceline decided to stay outside in the snow instead of joining the rest of the cast in the tree fort.
07:37:04 PM May 8th 2012
Probably because a episode where the two interact will be saved for some drama. I mean, both are among the few survivers of the GMW, and such a episode would probably deal with the fact that he was like, her dads best friend or something before the whole "turned into a frosty wizerd" thing. On the other hand, she may simply avoid people with apperently magical artifacts, baecause a immortal like her who has been wandering a for a long time has probably picked up on the fact that people with said magical power-granting artifacts are crazy.
03:44:48 PM Jul 30th 2012
Jeremy Shada confirmed that there will be an episode with Marceline and the Ice King.
05:48:37 PM Oct 8th 2012
The Other Wiki has the description for the season 4 episode "I Remember You" as follows: "The Ice King and Marceline bond over memories." So yes, there probably was a reason that Marceline, at least, was avoiding the Ice King.
05:00:23 PM Oct 15th 2012
You are absolutely right. I kinda suspected somehting like this would happen eventually, but not how it actually did. It even explains why they've been avoiding each other.
09:17:21 PM Jun 14th 2013
Although they aren't avoiding each other so much now. It seems that, now we've got the big dramatic reveal out of the way, they'll be interacting in a lot more episodes.
03:12:06 PM Nov 19th 2011
I'm new to TV Tropes...and I found an interview with Pendleton Ward talking about AT. Can I post a link to it here?
07:27:29 PM Nov 3rd 2011
Marceline is Beauty of the Beauty Brainsand Brawn trio. Yes, she's the Usagi/Bubbles/Mikuru/Belldandy of the series. She is the one who's in to feelings and relationships.

Bubblegum is the one who finds reasons to push her feelings into a corner. PB can play with Finn as a child, but not as an adult. She can wear the gift, but not in public. She has an image to uphold.

So far Finn has been the brawn who's never far from a sword, but if Susan takes a more prominent role, she might become the "Problem? Smash!" person.
09:02:23 PM Mar 17th 2012
As of the end of season three the show has a REAL Beauty, Brains, Brawn princess/queen trio, with the Flame Princess as the brawn.
12:46:49 PM Sep 28th 2011
Should a note be made of the subversive nature of the show? If nothing else, it is pushing the limits of what's acceptable in what is marketed as and appears to be children's programming. Plus the above average amount of subtext, again in a show marketed towards children.
06:38:56 PM Nov 1st 2011
Not really subversive. I mean, the show knows it has an adult audience as well as a children's audience. The show is still perfectly acceptable to kids.
04:51:34 PM Dec 6th 2011
I dunno. I wouldn't let kids younger than...11... watch it, if I had kids.
09:20:46 PM Jun 14th 2013
Eh, most of it is pretty silly and harmless. The radar jokes would just go over kids' heads — the only thing that I'd really consider Harmful to Minors would be some of the darker plot twists, which hit even adult viewers like an emotional punch to the gut, and those are only in a few episodes.
02:28:57 PM Sep 26th 2011
Does anybody else want the Rule 63 episode to become a sort of spin-off? or at least have more episodes made that aren't just silly fanfic written by Ice King?

Also is it just me or is anybody else confused to why Fionna is much older than Finn? Same can be assumed for Cake I guess. I know in the twist ending Fionna is made out to be a strange fan girl for Ice king who'd obviously want a women of legal age. But even in the silly art from the Designer she's older.
06:37:44 PM Nov 1st 2011
Possible Answer- Fionna isn't older than Finn...she looks older because girls hit puberty faster than boys. Possible Answer- She's older because because.
06:55:18 PM Jul 12th 2012
09:49:38 PM Oct 18th 2012
Now let's be nice here...

And yeah - it's probably either that girls hit puberty faster or Ice King made her older so the ending would be less creepy.
02:16:46 PM Sep 26th 2011
In the gender flipped episode, is it just me or is Fiona's dress that she wears to the ball look a lot like Princess Serena's dress? It felt like there was a few Sailor Moon references in that episode.
06:36:10 PM Nov 1st 2011
edited by PeachPit
It was supposed to...that's what her dress was based off of, according to Natasha Allegri's tumblr
11:09:41 PM Sep 9th 2011
Doesnt it seem's wierd that in mortal folly, princess bublegum was eating some random ice cream guy in her secret room (finn and jake please be ok [eat's ice cream guy], please be ok [eat's more of ice cream guy]). Granted it's PB, but...
08:04:38 PM Sep 23rd 2011
Quote from the Adventure Time wiki: "■In "Video Makers" and "Mortal Folly" she is seen consuming other Candy People. According to Adam Muto, this is to replace lost candy biomass."
10:31:41 AM Aug 14th 2011
Isn't the lyric actually "the fun never ends"?
06:35:08 PM Nov 1st 2011
nope, "will never end" is the lyric.
03:15:43 PM Jul 9th 2011
Okay, I was watching the episode where Finn and Jake are trying to create their own movie. In the first few minutes, when they find out that the movies they were showing were "illegal," Here's the dialogue that I thought was interesting:

Finn: "We've been showing these movies, unauthorized." Jake: "But these movies were before the great mushroom war."

Doesn't "Great Mushroom War," seem like another allusion to that this show is set after atomic Armageddon?
06:55:38 PM Jul 18th 2011
It sure does.
04:36:24 PM Aug 3rd 2011
edited by Mswordx24
Your point?
05:15:08 AM Mar 11th 2013
The show is set after atomic Armageddon.
03:23:56 AM May 31st 2011
Why did Hot Amazon get moved back from YMMV to the main board? I think mileage is VERY IMPORTANT on that one... some of us don't find huge, hulking muscle-women attractive. At all.
03:39:21 AM May 31st 2011
It's not a YMMV trope, as accorded to our rules and guidelines.
03:52:17 AM May 31st 2011

"We call them 'your mileage might vary' because not everyone sees these things in the same way." — an exact quote from the YMMV page topper.

I do not see Susan Strong as a "hot amazon", and I'm sure MANY people would agree with me. So, why doesn't it adhere properly to the YMMV tropes, exactly?
04:03:03 AM May 31st 2011
Presumably, it's because the Hot Amazon trope is about a woman who is regarded in-universe - that is, by other characters in the work - as being attractive precisely because she kicks ass. Your personal opinion on the character's attractiveness isn't important to the trope.

That said, unless a character in the show showed some affection for Susan Strong because she kicks ass, she doesn't fit the trope, in which case, you're free to remove it with an edit reason as to why you've done so for good measure.
12:58:06 PM Apr 26th 2011
What is the stealth pun about NEPTR? Finn wants to throw Neverending pies at Jake, there's supposed to be a joke there. I also don't get the stealth pun in Death in Bloom with the Death Metal solo. Can someone explain these to me?
03:27:11 AM May 31st 2011
The stealth pun for Death in Bloom is that Death was performing... a Death Metal solo. That's... right there. In plain sight. Death performing Death Metal. Yup. That's all. Seriously.

But the pie one I also do not understand...
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03:45:05 AM Feb 15th 2011
Hay scene were not completely serouis can we add Gunther to the character sheet?
06:24:40 AM Jan 24th 2011
Just watching the one where Finn and Jake become ninjas in the Ice King's lair... whatever it was... Gunther (the penguin) is a girl... OK, but WHY IS HIS/HER BABY SOME WEIRD CAT THING? DID IT SCREW AROUND WITH... uh... no.
02:13:22 PM Jan 3rd 2011
Am I the only one wanting to add "Freud was right" to at least a YMMV page? I mean, every doorway and hole is shaped with that tipped oval shape that looks like a hoohah. and half the buildings look way too phallic to be a coincidence (just LOOK at the buildings in the candy kingdom...)

02:35:32 PM Jan 3rd 2011
...I think you're the only one...However, there's no harm adding it to the YMMV. Do it up.

04:17:52 PM Jan 3rd 2011
Do not add something to YMMV if its not an example.
05:37:40 AM Jan 4th 2011
She's talking about adding an example of Freud Was Right to the YMMV /page/, not as an instance of YMMV.
01:14:43 PM Jan 8th 2011
YMMV is only for YMMV.
03:02:59 PM Jan 8th 2011
Oh, OK.
09:52:16 AM Nov 18th 2010
Pilot!Rainicorn didn't speak a pidgin (a mixture of two languages), she sounded like a pigeon. Maybe that was a mistake?
05:42:50 PM Sep 14th 2010
What happened to the "Just Bugs Me" page? I remember it right around the top of the page and I have a new entry for it.
06:39:31 PM Sep 14th 2010
My bad. I was moving the subpages to just "Adventure Time" since that's the name of the show, and it looks like I forgot the It Just Bugs Me!. Fixed.
01:51:57 PM Sep 14th 2010
edited by TecumsehSherman
Hey guys,

After watching last nights episode, I couldn't help but think that Princess Bubblegum's gas mask looked a little familiar...


Does anyone have a screen capture of hers? And do bird-beak gas masks appear anywhere else?

Thanks in advance.

03:02:29 AM Oct 17th 2010
The bird-beak gas mask was part of the beak doctor costume worn by plague doctors in europe a few hundred years ago.
05:40:58 PM Sep 2nd 2010
edited by Komodin
Oh, and I also removed the image from the Nightmare Fuel page. It's a tad too effective at its job.
05:40:58 PM Sep 2nd 2010
I removed some natter from the page. People, do remember that this is a wiki, not a message board. If you wish to discuss the various things about the series, not only can you do it here, but we got actual forums as well.
07:55:57 AM Sep 2nd 2010
edited by Icchuchu
Please please please for the love of all that is good, remove the image from the Nightmare Fuel page. I'm hiding in a corner right now.
05:07:26 PM Sep 2nd 2010
i with you on that one i cant sleep now
03:35:11 PM Aug 22nd 2010
edited by werdnak84
What's the use of un-Wikiwording tropes if they're still in the list (Foster Kid, Hot Blooded, to name a few)?! Isn't the idea that any trope in a list is supposed to link to that article?!
05:45:59 PM Aug 22nd 2010
edited by SoapMagic
Maybe the person who did it is intentionally un-Wikiwording tropes in a passive troll-like way. Or they could just be stupid. Or new to TV Tropes.
11:06:32 AM Aug 8th 2010
edited by SleepySheep
Guys, do you think this series needs crowner pages yet? The Crowning Momentof Funny entry was getting so long it needed to be deleted.
02:17:45 PM Mar 30th 2010
We are glade you are here with Finn and Jake
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