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openMulan WMG Film
This is on the WMG page for Mulan (2020) :
- Between the disastrous test screenings, the lead actress' poor reception (considered to be "more concerned with looking pretty than emoting"), her controversial opinion regarding the Hong Kong protests (which will not be discussed further here), the backlash Western fans have given to most of the changes (No Mushu, no songs, no Shang), and the recent underwhelming performance of Maleficent: Mistress of Evil at the box office, I'm not entirely confident that this film is going to do well in theaters. Perhaps if it ends up underperforming, Disney will decide to start releasing its remakes exclusively to Disney+, or eventually just cease to do them altogether.
- There's also the coronavirus outbreak to be taken into consideration. It took everyone by surprise, but due to the large outbreak many Chinese citizens will be on quarantined or unmotivated to go to the movies, which will lead to the box office badly hurting.
I don't think this is okay, is it?
open A British 80's/90's Movie of somebody stuck in a red bus, and a beautiful song that appeared in it. Film
It was a British movie. I believe from the 80's or 90's, a movie about a certain British woman that mistaken a red bus for another one, and that bus was leading her to China and she didn't wanted to. That is the basic of the movie, however, that girl is just a minor charcter, the main character is a sassy guy with his girlfriend whom are ironically criticising everybody they see, and they are also involved with the bus thingy, however none of them doesn't care too much about it.
I remember there was a scene where the main couple we're in a restaurant, and he started to write something in a cup of coffee with a pen, and she was amazed and asked someting like:
,,oh gosh! How do you do that?"
And he just glanced up at her ironicaly and said:
,,that's a good way of writing your novels, you write them, put them for sale, and if they don"t sell , you just shove it down your throat".
Bonus question: In this movie, a really beautiful song was featured as the main theme for the movie, it was shown to be sung ans played by some people in the movie, in a scene with the band singing in a bar, and from what my dad said, he said that the guys that we're featured in the movie and played the song, was a real band and the original artists of that song, however, he was not sure of the band's name, either of the artist, butbhe kind of looked like Thom Yorke, but it wasn't Radiohead I assure y'all. I saw the movie once, and I still remember the lyrics and the melody of the song, from what I remember, maybe not too accurate, the lyrics we're somewhat like the following:
,,When is Wednesday I think I'll go fishing When is Thursday I think I'll go home. When is Friday I think i'll-"
And so on. The song was rather calm, and it sounded like a 70's ballad like the Stix's ,,Boat On The River" with a slight medieval vibe to it, something like that,
I wish somebody knows this movie and song, if you do, please, somebody respond, I am really curious to know and I search for them for like 7 years and I still can't find anywhere, I asked people, searched on the internet, and still can't find anything.
Edited by KarrenVonRosewaldopenUnrelated Trope Example Film
So recently I found a bad example in The Glass House like this:
- Financial Abuse: This is basically the plot. The siblings Ruby and Rhett were adopted by Erin and Terry, the best friends of their dead parents... only to be targeted for death so the "new parents" can collect the kids's HUGE inheritance. Not to mention Terry makes passes at Ruby, who's squicked outta her mind. Then, Ruby finds out that both Terry and Erin staged the parents's deaths. She then goes Plucky Girl, attempts to fight back against Terry and protect Rhett, and ultimately kills Terry (Erin had been Driven to Suicide out of guilt a while before). Then, the kids are taken in by their uncle.
openShould we edit a minor something on the Star Wars (Franchise) page? Film
Apologies if this is the wrong medium, since it's about the EU, and that expands many mediums.
For the Star Wars Franchise page, however, I wanna offer up one minor point of contention. It is this idea at the end that the new EU has a singular continuity. Without trying to offend anyone, I think this, while not a deliberate lie, still has the potential to warp the perceptions of potential new fans. There is really no fundamental difference between how the old EU and all the tiers of canon was run under Lucas, and what Disney is doing now. It implies more cohesion when honestly, there's just as many plot holes in the six years since they discontinued it. My personal opinion is the breakdown came with TCW in 2008 for the old canon, but that's not something I'm gonna get into. For the Disney canon, though, since they said the novels were all canon, that opens up many plot holes since the Episode III novel has tons of EU shout-outs that place it firmly within that continuity, not the new stuff.
In short, I think the line "singular continuity" needs to change. All this means is that Disney has no idea what canon is, and the old tiers of canon gave structure to the franchise. What they have now does not seem to have any sort of larger structure involved. I'm sure opinions will vary, and this is not an attempt to trigger a debate. Just that I think the wording could be different here.
This is the line.
"Unless otherwise stated, any works created since then are part of a singular continuity."
It's also a fallacy since the new canon is spread across just as many mediums as the old EU was. As I said, I don't wanna debate. I just want suggestions here.
Link is here.
openWhat is this "Pet Homosexual" entry doing on "The Parent Trap 1998" page? Film
I'm confused about the Pet Homosexual entry on the Film.The Parent Trap 1998 page, about Meredith's sassy assistant. Sassy, I can see, but who says he's gay? He is a bit-part character, I've reviewed his one and only scene, and I see no indication whatsoever that he's gay. Quite the opposite in fact, after he said "Ooh, ice woman!" Meredith's response to him was in a flirtatious tone and he didn't seem to mind. If he's not gay, then the Pet Homosexual entry should be deleted, right?
open What's that trope? damage equals worthy of love Film
What is the trope in which an ordinary guy proves his worthiness to an extraordinary girl by taking extraordinary physical risks, and often losing in a fight? It's not "loser gets the girl" because that requires both guys to fight over her, and defeat makes her realize that the winner never really interested her. This is more like the girl does not really know she reciprocates his love, until she sees the amount of physical pain and damage he is willing to absorb in their shared cause. It may be the prelude to the "violently protective girlfriend" but not always. Is there something like the "Steve Trevor Effect" from the Wonder Woman (2016) movie? Except in that, they hook up before he blows himself up, but that causes her to (posthumously) forgive him for their fight. Any ideas? It's not "weakness turns her on" because we are not talking about a character who is congenitally weak in body or personality, but usually he is in some way inferior to her - less educated, less intelligent, less trained, whatever. Often, the guy takes a beating in an attempt to serve her in some way, protection, rescue attempt, something. This usually leads to the moment when the girl realizes that the guy who she has been somehow looking upon as insufficient is suddenly recognized as worthy. Several books do this, including Patrick Ness' "The Knife of Never Letting Go" and Brittany Cavallaro's "Charlotte Holmes" series. Any ideas?
open What is the movie/tv show i’m thinking of? Film
Okay so I keep remembering this scene from a movie/tv show and it’s bugging me so much that i can’t remember what it’s from. i think it was a comedy, but basically a guy was driving and sees a hitch hiker and picks him up. the hitch hiker is really sketchy and it’s at night. they end up getting pulled over and the guy driving thinks he’s in trouble for hitch hiking but it turns out the hitch hiker is a murderer and was gonna murder him. there’s something with a body bag or something and the driver ends up not in trouble and driving off back to his trip. please help!! it’s driving me crazy!
openEdit warring and weird message? Film
So on https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/PatchAdams, I deleted a Funny moments entry because it was worded awkwardly, lacking in context, and for some reason I mistakenly thought the page already had a "heartwarming" section. HarleyQuinnIsGreat (who I guess entered it in the first place) reverted it back with an added " % % Do not delete the above entry without consulting someone first," and sent the deleting YMMV notifier while telling me not to delete without consulting them. (MOD EDITED TO REMOVE PM TEXT; ADDED SUMMARY INSTEAD)
At this point, I feel like the edit itself isn't really the problem here.
Edited by nombretomadoopenPotential trope misuse in Harry Potter Film
I'd like to bring up a potential misuse of Adaptational Badass in Harry Potter's character page:
- In the first book, Harry is barely able to hold off Quirrell, with the effort nearly proving fatal. In the film, Harry kills Quirrell with relative ease, and is still on his feet before being downed by Voldemort's soul when he escapes.
- t When confronted by Snape in the Shrieking Shack in the third film, Harry sends him flying into the wall with an Expelliarmus from Hermione's wand, which is supposed to be more difficult with a wand that hasn't chosen him. In the books, this same effect was achieved by him, Ron and Hermione trying to disarm Snape simultaneously.
This is the exact same thing that happened here. So, what do you think?
openEdit War Film
Yesterday SwimToTheMoon added the following example to Horrible/Advertising:
It was removed by KingofNightmares , as it was determined by the So Bad It's Horrible Clean-Up thread to not be an example.
SwimToTheMoon has since then re-added it.
Edited by AnddrixopenKnives Out character interpretation Film
There seems to be a slow-burning, passive-aggressive dispute over some members of the Thrombey family (specifically, Meg, Linda, and Walt). Nothing dramatic so far, but it's bogging the page with numerous small edits over their motives and any redeeming features.
Let's take Meg, for example. One troper paints her in a negative light due to her actions Spoilers (she betrays Marta's trust when it becomes clear that she's going to lose her inheritance and cushy lifestyle, despite initially appearing as one of the more liberal members of the family). Then, another troper comes along and says, "no, Meg is alright, she was pressured by her family to do that, and Marta forgives her anyway". Needless to say, it's been going in circles for a while.
The film, by its nature, avoids taking sides. All the Thrombeys are ultimately various degrees of unlikable, and they all antagonize Marta at some point. Any Token Good Teammate status is, IMO at least, heavily subjected to Alternative Character Interpretation.
Courtesy link: Characters.Knives Out
Edited by RoundRobinopenPhoto in the examples section Film
True Lies has a photo right next to the Truth in Television example. Is this kosher? I thought photos were only supposed to go up at the top, or is that an unofficial rule?
openHow to put on an image? Film
So I was working on creating a page for a movie that I used to watch called Buy Now Die Later and I have no idea how to put an image of a poster for this film. Can you teach me how to do it?
Edited by BubblepigopenEdit War Film
On the 6th of May, Kelvin G added the following to Trivia.The Last Jedi:
- Dear Negative Reader: Johnson took several potshots at fans, from calling them misogynistic manbabies to posing with a placard reading, “Your Snoke theory sucks!”.
- From Entertainment to Education: Inverted. This film is used as an example on how NOT to write a script.
Both were removed by Constanton 11, only for Kelvin G to re-add them today.
openHorror Film Index, kaput? Film
Was reading the trope page for The Devil Rides Out, and in the time it took me to click to YMMV and back, the entire Horror Films index was replaced by a bizarre list of quotes.
open Educational series I watched in elementary school in the late 80s Film
I remember watching this educational series in like the 6th grade in like 1989. The one specific episode I remember is a group of preteen aged kids building a water collection system on what I think was a beach or an island. It was a piece of plastic they put up like a tent to gather condensation. Kind of like a survival or engineering series? From what I remember this were a series they played at schools. For some reason I have the word "whale" in my head when I think about it but I could be way off. Please help ease my mind! PS. If it helps, it was an elementary school in Lake Elsinore CA. Maybe someone else on here went to the same school and remembers.
Edited by StarrbarropenShocking Swerve in Batman v Superman Film
Just to remind everyone that Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is still a controversial film, troper Swim To The Moon added this to Shocking Swerve:
"One of the more infamous examples is in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice where Superman manages to stop the fight by yelling at Batman, "You're letting them kill Martha. Find them, save Martha!!!". Batman then asks "why he said that name" (sic) and then Lois lane shows up in the Nick of time to explain that that Martha is Superman's mother's name, and this is apparently enough to stop the fight, because Martha is also Batman's mother's name. Suddenly, Batman stops remembering that he spent the whole movie trying to kill Superman, and becomes Superman's ally immediately, because their mother's share the same name. Many reviewers were quick to point out not only just how stupid this was, but also that there's no way this would work if, say, Two-Face or The Joker's mother was named Martha too."
I have to ask, does this really qualify or not? Just so you know, I'm tired of arguing over the DC Extended Universe over and over and over again. I know that these movies are controversial and that some people don't like them, but there are people out there who are willing to take some scenes out of context and blow them out of proportion just to convey their dislike of them. What do you say?
So I remember watching this tv British tv show on Netflix not long ago but still 2-3 years back, and I don't remember much besides the fact it's like a normal teenage show. Girl and boy like eachother but can't be together bc someone else likes the boy aka the girl bully and the other girl has like two other friends, one is black and the other is named Ollie. Everybody else name idk. Pls help find the showw