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openBonus/special edition tracks on an album
If an album has a bonus track or other song only included on certain editions of an album (e.g. a special/deluxe edition), how should that be included in the "Tracklist" section of the album's work page?
I'm working on a page for an album that has a track that's only included on certain versions, such as some later remasters and the Japanese release, but I'm not sure how to list that. At first, I thought of having a note by the last track of the album which says "Some versions of the album contain an additional track known as "Song Title" (Length)" when clicked on, but I'm not sure if that's the correct formatting.
Edited by punkcrowresolved kkj12345 = Canine99 and Superherofanatic1999?
As mentioned here, a troper named Canine 99 was suspended for bashing people in the Choices: Stories You Play fandom. I have a suspicion that kkj12345 may be them ban evading. Both tropers frequently edit(ed) pages (more often than not, YMMV and Trivia pages) regarding Choices books, often with a negative tone, and they both have/had a tendency to add Fan Nicknames that only they used (and sometimes, they fell into "Detractor Nickname" territory, despite them not being allowed anymore). The former troper was suspended in 2019 (and apparently ban evaded once already as Superherofanatic 1999 later the same year), while the latter troper began editing in Spring 2021. This page (specifically, regarding the same Fan Nickname entry) all but confirms my suspicions.
Edited by UFOYeahopenMebrouk
Mebrouk has been on the wiki for about a year, but recently attracted some attention by adding a (now yoinked) image to Your Terrorists Are Our Freedom Fighters. Given the page's subject matter, you can guess what sort of conflict the image was referencing. Well, they were sent a notifier for it, but I'm concerned that this may not be enough. Their other edits are all also very political and have been that way since the very beginning.
Animation.The Child And The Invader is a page made and only edited by them. For the most part it squeaks by, but there's a repeated use of the word "Zionist".
They added weirdly political natter on the trivia page of the Barbie Movie.
Finally, the one that made me make this report was another edit made just today on UsefulNotes.Javier Milei, which reads:
And then they edited it to add an Axe-Crazy pothole (a NRLEP trope).
They also seem to have bad grammar, capitalizing words like "They" every time and sometimes forgetting punctuation.
resolved Page to cut, misuse.
UnintentionalUncannyValley.Fan Works and UnintentionalUncannyValley.Tabletop Games were removed from Unintentional Uncanny Valley as all examples were intentional and moved to Uncanny Valley.
Is there a reason the pages were not cut or should they be.
resolved Franchises Across Multiple Media Categories
I launched Melting Pot Sci-Fi Setting yesterday. During TLP I arranged the Star Trek and Star Wars examples into their own Franchise folders. I did this because these are media Franchises with shared lore that all rely on the trope, so scattering be between different media categories makes things hard to follow.
During the TLP there was discussion about me initially alphabetizing this incorrectly but nobody seemed to mind me keeping the Franchises together: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=6i0kr1c7noxf5im7knrfo4op
However ~Nejiiuyn has edited the page and split them up and now it's confusing:
I don't want to just reverse this as I'd be edit warring but I did want to bring it here for discussion.
openTwoferTokenMinority parameters
For Twofer Token Minority, does "minority" mean:
- minority amongst the characters in the show
- minority amongst the assumed demographics of the setting
Like does gay count as a minority trait if it's a Cast Full of Gay show? I thought that Token Minority dealt with handling, which would suggest #1?
Specifically asking because I think Louis in Interview with the Vampire (2022) is not a Twofer Token Minority. He's gay, but nearly all the main characters in the show are gay and bi men, so he's not a token. But I'd like to get a second opinion before I make the edit.
Edited by EievieopenFormatting question
What do you do if the work has parentheses () or an apostrophe ‘ in the title?
How do you create a work page for it?
openAnime/KihachiroKawamotoShorts Anime
I created this page as "Animation" originally because these shorts are Stop Motion, not Anime-style animation per the site's description. But someone put it under "Anime" regardless because according to that person Japan would not be included in "Animation", basically "everything animated from Japan is Anime". I disagree. What would be the best option?
Edited by IrideneropenAccount creation date
How is it that there are a few accounts with a creation date of 1969? Did this website even exist at that time?
resolved Too similar tropes
I saw that for the amazing digital circus character page, Ragatha has both Captain Ersatz and expy. I don't think she should have both given that they have subtle differences. What do y'all think?
resolved Do we really need a copyright notice at the top of a recap page? Western Animation
I'm in the midst of culling An Aesop wicks from Lilo & Stitch: The Series recap pages, when I discovered that the plot summary for the recap page for "Spats" is taken verbatim from the fandom page of said episode. As if it wasn't obvious enough, the opening section has this displayed in bold at the top: The plot synopsis below includes content originally written on Lilo & Stitch Wiki on Fandom, which is available under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike License 3.0 (Unported).
No other recap page for the series has this as placed at the top of the page. Risefrom Your Grave added this back in 2021 and has edited other recap pages of Lilo & Stitch: The Series in their time on here. but they haven't added this notice on other pages they have edited. I don't want to send a Plagiarism notifer for a 3 year old edit, but they are still active on the site. I'm listing this here as I don't want to make a drastic edit without notifiying the troper that made it, and I don't want to instigate an edit war. What should be my course of action?
Edited by Jalpo99openDeleted Work
Fortune Favors the Brave has been deleted. The link to the page no longer works and I have been unable to find any backups on Way Back Machine or Archive Today. Based on the page's history, the work was paused/deleted sometime in July 2021.
I was able to find the author's AO3 account, as well as their Tumblr account, which show that they are still active and writing as of today. According to this Tumblr post, the author was very disappointed with a certain episode of the series and how it portrayed the characters, which made them no longer want to continue working on Fortune Favors the Brave, so they decided to delete the fic and rework it later. However, this never seemed to happen and there have been no further posts on this work since November 2021, so it looks like the idea has been completely abandoned.
Should I move this page to DarthWiki.Unpublished Works?
resolved The One With Spongebob
Some troper has added "The One With [element in said episode]" to each episode description of Spongebob Squarepants for the first three seasons. They range from something integral to the episode (i.e. Club Spongebob being "The one with the Magic Conch Shell", which is an important part of the episode) to something largely irrelevant (i.e My Pretty Seahorse being "The one with the coin slot", which only shows up as a seconds-long gag that has no bearing on the plot and is never mentioned again). Since The One With is now Just For Fun (and not linked to on any of these recap pages), are these additions OK to keep, or should they be removed for lack of relevance?
openNot Since Carrie help Literature
Hi, I am thinking about creating a page for the book Not Since Carrie: Forty Years of Broadway Musical Flops by Ken Mandelbaum. But I’m unsure what category it would belong to, as it’s non fiction and is a history/reference book about the risky world of musical theatre. Hope you can help fellow Tropers, thanks.
resolved EditWar
On the YMMV page of The Simpsons:
- Kingslayer38 added a sub-entry for Jerks Are Worse Than Villains dedicated to bashing on Lisa Simpson.
- I removed it for being too complainy the same it was added.
- Kingslayer38 re-adds it back with no prior discussion.
Biohazard 2035 added this to YMMV.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic:
Besides them having formatting problems I've brought up earlier, these entries are similar to what prior ATT argreed to cut as just canon losses, not how fans exaggerate them. While this is slightly better about how exaggerated, it still states those canon mitigations are not enough/Informed Attributes so legit complaints not fan exaggerations. Also fans dislike/reject these moments as part of their fanon portrayal as opposed to let it influence them to portray them as even bigger losers in fanworks so I think misuse there.
Permission to cut?
Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught