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openPossible violation of fic may be yours, but page is ours.
The creator of Peter & Company is currently on here and seems to be violating The Fic May Be Yours, but the Trope Page Is Ours, as they've made a number of edits on their comic's page, such as replacing the image without IP consensus, editing the work's description, deleting examples, and editing the work's YMMV page, which as far as I know, is forbidden to authors.
Edited by Tylerbear12resolved Is this reason legit?
A certain troper removed this entry reasoning that Darth Wiki doesn't go on main wiki.
Except the entry was on the YMMV tab, so... that's not really the main wiki, is it?
Is the reason (and removal) legit?
Edited by sohibilopenFormatting Question
Which is the customary way:
Film (B); or Film: B
Film (A to C); or Film: A to C
openShouldn't CatGirl be renamed?
There are plenty of catboys in fiction (Schrödinger from Hellsing, etc) as well as cat adults. Is there an equivalent trope I'm missing?
openWishing to avoid an edit war
On Trivia.Delicious In Dungeon
- I removed a Scanlation entry since it is not a trivia trope.
- Troper west8777 restored it.
It is worth noting that this entry was added by a different troper way back so it doesn't count as an edit war.
Looking at the Scanlation page, it doesn't state it is trivia or not. However, in the interest of avoiding an edit war, I want to ask if it is ok to delete again.
resolved Url rules violation
I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to add punctuation in the wiki word of any page here, and instead use a wiki word.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/ULTIMATE-ONE-TYPE-Taylor
EDIT: There IS a Fanfic.Ultimate One Type Taylor page that's apparently completely separate from the first???
Edited by LermisopenUnmarked spoiler removal for Walking Spoiler in Characters.The Amazing Digital Circus Players Web Original
Recently, LCJ has removed the unmarked spoiler warning of Kaufmo's folder (a Walking Spoiler) in Characters.The Amazing Digital Circus Players and inserted a bunch of spoiler tags without elaborating why they did it.
I'm soliciting a mod to revert this huge change, because as well as the lack of reason, it's clear that Kaufmo's folder is better off with unmarked spoilers due to a large majority of the tropes listed in it addressing spoilers from the work, not to mention that thus far, there's been only one more edit (on Ragatha's folder) after the removal that I can easily restore following the reversal.
Edited by Inky100resolved Troper keeps changing other people’s edits and gatekeeping pages
So basically I’ve been looking through Star Wars character pages and i noticed that zakitaro has been overly involved in these pages. If you see the edit history for pages like Star Wars – Anakin Skywalker, whenever any troper adds an edit zakitaro makes massive alterations to the previous troper’s edit. Sometimes it’s fair, like replacing a trope with a more fitting trope, and most times I think it's just downright disrespectful and unfair because they completely change the explanation for the trope that someone else added. Whatever a troper adds, zakitaro frequently comes in and changes it and I think it’s kind of rude and inconsiderate of other tropers. They also massively gatekeep the Anakin Skywalker page because I and other tropers frequently have to wait before we can make edits because zakitaro is almost always editing on there and if you look at edit history it proves that.
openFilm about infected people living in a non-infected society. Film
Have anyone see or heard this film? The film about a guy, who along with others is a infected zombie, tried to live in a normal life in a non-infected human society after been reconcile. There's also a woman and a boy she's looking after living in the same area as the protagonist, and another infected, who want the protagonist join his rebel against the people who treat them terrible. Does anyone know the name of this name?
openAdding a picture
How do I add a picture to a page from my phone? I want to add a page image to the Funny page for Cult of the Lamb.
resolved More unilateral changes by RosaHG
So back in December, I had reported RosaHG for unilateral image changing. They were suspended and released with the understanding they would use Image Pickin' to discuss future image changes.
Which they have...sort of. They've made three posts in the Image Pickin' thread. The first was for proposing an image that pretty much got shot down immediately, the second was a quality upgrade that went through fine, but the third was an image that they then immediately threw up on the page without waiting for any feedback. They were called out in the IP thread and a separate thread where they were warned by a moderator.
Their latest edit is unilaterally changing the caption of The Greatest Showman, and while I know that changing captions isn't as frowned upon as images, this was something they were doing before the suspension, and it doesn't appear that they've learned anything after being unsuspended.
Edited by Arctimonresolved Low-effort image suggestions by a recurring problem troper
Rosa HG has had a history of making unilateral edits of images and replacing them with images from My Little Pony, and has taken to making several low-effort suggestions on Image Pickin' today (1, 2, 3, 4, 5), most of them being MLP-related, some of them being reposts of the same images they inserted unilaterally several months ago (including the image from Came from the Sky, which they further kept trying to push in the Image Suggestion thread despite being told several times that it's not great), and none of them giving any adequate explanation for why they should replace images for tropes that already have them (their Licked by the Dog suggestion also implies to me that they don't actually understand what the tropes in question properly are). It looks to me like they still fundamentally don't understand the point of how the site handles this whole Image Picking process, has ignored the efforts to correct and guide them, and is taking to spamming the forum.
Update: 6th thread.
Edited by number9roboticopenFallen Literature
I’m a novice to this site who was trying to create a page for a YA novel series which was also adapted into a film and has a very generic title. There are already pages for unrelated works called Fallen. I inadvertently added its information to one’s page under Literature (it previously hadn’t had a Literature section). I have submitted it for the cut list. Fallen is a pretty well-known series and should probably have a page, particularly since it often gets mixed up with other things, but I’m not sure how to create one or whether it’s better left in the void. Advice? I’m very sorry for the inconvenience.
openWhere do fanfics made in 2024 go?
I'm asking because I'm seeing the Fanfics of 2010–2011 page onwards are pages created for fanfics created between a range of two years. Does that mean that we have to wait for next year in order to add fanfics made in 2024 (for a "Fanfics of 2024-2025" page), or can a page for 2024 fanfics be created in the meantime?
openTRS Queue: need permission to add?
I noticed Canon Fodder seemed a duplicate trope to Fanfic Fuel, (the supposed difference that it will later get addressed in canon being speculation and seeming chairs). Results from Canon Fodder Wick Check:
- Just 10% correct.
- 38% redundant with Fanfic Fuel or other items.
- 30% non-YMMV (intentional hooks/items explored in canon).
- 14% were misspellings of Cannon Fodder.
- 8% ZCE/other.
This sounds like it deserves to go under the TRS Queue. Any objections?
And for future reference, do I need permission/approval to add anything to TRS Queue if a wick check finds significant issue/misuse?
openMy questions regarding visual arts.
Some tropes seem like they would fit into work pages with the "Art/" namespace. But I am unsure if these are appropriate to edit. Are these OK to put them as examples?
- Minimalist Cast: Most sculptures and some paintings only involve like 1 to 3 characters, some paintings also depict only landscapes and objects without any characters.
- No Plot? No Problem!: None of these works have any narrative, therefore it seems fitting.
openZalgo on TvTropes and quotes.
From my understanding, Zalgo is disallowed on TV Tropes, but what if you are quoting text that uses Zalgo for effect? In particular, I am thinking of this skit from Overly Sarcastic Productions.
Remove the Zalgo, and it's no longer getting the impression they were going for across.
Edited by TheharboopenMaking a page of a Tumblr blog
If I wanted a page of a Tumblr blog to link back to Tumblr, which is currently locked, how would I go about that? It isn't a character blog, so I can't really link it there, it's just one that posts short stories that I'd like to trope.
Edited by t99legcentipedeopenRough Overalls without shirts
I'd like to discuss recent changes on the Rough Overalls trope.
- During the TLP (an adoption I did and adapted from the original proposal, Active Youth Overalls, where overalls were more tied to "cute" girls wearing them) one of the things discussed was trying to move the trope away from fanservice. The conclusion was that "cute girls wear overalls" wasn't a trope and was more like fanservice. (The TLP is also where the idea to split kids in overalls off separately into Kiddy Coveralls was done, as well as the mention to take examples from the defunct "Workers Wear Overalls" TLP.)
- Recently, Gofastmike added a third "not as often" example of wearing overalls for messy jobs while wearing nothing else but the overalls.
- I (after a correction that the top of overalls are called the bib) moved the talk to be under "blue collar work" since it was already discussed there and didn't need to be separate, and added data about people wearing shirts or not, to cover that not all wearing overalls in messy jobs is without the undershirt for practicality.
- Gofastmike has recently re-added the shirtless parts of wearing the overalls for messy jobs without noting that people can wear shirts for these messy jobs, not just overalls.
I'd like to discuss this with said editor and the community. I think it doesn't do the trope any good to mention the shirtlessness so prominently under messy jobs when it's mentioned in the fanservice "not as prominent" trope already, and the part about blue collar/messy jobs should be more about the labor side of things.
Edited for typos and clarifications.
Edited by Nethilia
On A Pretty Boy Index,
Tallmoon also unilaterally replaced an image at Bishonen (despite the IP tag), followed by a similarly nonsensical justification post.
Edited by Amonimus