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openUsage of the r-word Videogame
While looking at the page for VideoGame.Five Nights At Fuckboys, I discovered a use of the r-word. Through my previous outings on Ask the Tropers, I know slurs should never be used unless through quotes. This was not a quote, so I removed it.
The troper who made this edit is St Fan, and the edit in question is this one. I am in no way trying to get them suspended, I just wanted to make the mods aware of this.
openDrama importing/Edit warring Videogame
User Father Brown (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tropers/FatherBrown ) is edit warring on the tropes page for a Fire Emblem Fanfic (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/TheEmperorAndTheGoddess ).
History page here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Fanfic.TheEmperorAndTheGoddess
Essentially, they're misusing the Expy example to slag the story. The aggressive wording displays their lack of good faith.
Much of the complaints listed are straight from a tumblr community dedicated to hating on the author of the fanfic (the fandom discourse is a MESS, but essentially Edelgard's a pretty divisive character and the person who wrote the fanfic is known for posting analysis pages on her character and catching extreme vitriol, including death threats, from the character's detactors for it), so this smacks of drama importing to me.
Edited by RaxisopenInterviews with Creators on Upcoming works Videogame
What is the policy regarding interviews with creators regarding their upcoming works? And press releases?
For example, there is a Famitsu article where Tetsuya Nomura talks a bit about the gameplay for Kingdom Hearts IV (New mechanics, the return of reaction commands, etc) while a press release confirms that Donald and Goofy are in the underworld in the trailer.
open KHIV organizational question Videogame
So on the WMG page for Kingdom Hearts IV, I organized a list of potential worlds into categories. Question is, do works like Percy Jackson, which had movies under fox but is getting a Disney Plus show with the Disney branding, and the Mysterious Benedict Society, which is a Disney plus show with Disney branding produced by 20th television, go under live action Disney shows with Zack and Cody or do they go under Fox properties with the Simpsons?
openDueling Works Discussion Thread? Videogame
Is there a forum thread for discussing whether two works count as dueling works? Like if I wanted to ask if Lost in Random and Tiny Tina's Wonderlands had similar enough themes to count for the trivia?
open ThatOneBoss and Definition. Videogame
Earlier today, I had removed the below entries on the That One Boss page for Elden Ring.
I removed them for the following reasons:
- First entry is a Wake-Up Call Boss.
- Second boss is a Bonus Boss as part of an optional sidequest, and the entry basically reads as "boss is hard cause it can summon adds. Oh and it hurts a bit", both of which don't stick out as That One Boss material.
- The last two entries are part of the Final Boss, which That One Boss page says don't qualify. I have put spoiler tags over them to be safe. The flavor text above them also isn't really a valid justification to say they are harder then any other past games boss ether.
Currently these are under discussion on the Discussion tab but I wanted opinions from those outside of that, since I don't want to seem too much like I am saying "RULE SAYS THIS" when I could be taking it too literal.
- Margit, the Fell Omen is likely the first major story boss the player will face, as he guards the main route into Stormveil Castle, and he's very tough for how early he can be fought, notorious for giving players a serious wake-up call possibly within the first few hours of their playthrough. His moveset is quite varied, between quick strikes that come when you think he's open and delayed smashes that punish players who panic-roll, and he strings them in combos that in other FromSoftware games would only appear much later. Thankfully, there is a special item that can be bought from the Twin Husk/Patches whose only purpose is to bind Margit for a few seconds so to allow the player some free hits. You can also bypass Margit and Stormveil Castle entirely, but ignoring it will lock you out of certain quests, plus Margit drops a Talisman Pouch when defeated, so ideally you need to come back to him at a later point if this route is chosen.
- Commander Niall fought at the top of Castle Sol starts the battle summoning two spectral Banished Knights to the fight - one with a shield, another with two swords. You've faced those spectral knights on the way up, and alone they're already quite a handful due to the amount of punishment they can take and deal. Niall himself is no slouch either, boasting deadly attacks with a large reach. Take out the Knights and he Turns Red, imbuing himself with lightning and gaining powerful stomps that can cover a large portion of the arena. It will take a fair bit of effort (or some cheese on your part) to take him out and recover the other half of the Haligtree Medallion.
- The final challenge of Elden Ring has you fighting two bosses back to back, and even by the Final Boss standards of most Soulsborne titles, these two are ridiculously powerful and will likely take you several dozen attempts on your first playthrough:
- First up is the almighty Radagon of the Golden Order. Brandishing the hammer that shattered the Elden Ring and that might yet repair it, he is immune to bleed buildup and heavily resistant to holy damage, putting faith and many dexterity or arcane builds at a lofty disadvantage out of the gate. He's ridiculously aggressive and effective, both in close range with his brutal hammer swings and light shockwaves and at a distance with his lightning spears that chunk you for massive damage if you don't roll out of the way or have resistance to holy damage yourself, alongside quick 'fan' lightning shots that he can throw out at a moment's notice. What really makes him frustrating is that once he powers up at about two-thirds of his health gone, alongside the aforementioned AOE ground stomps, he also gains a nasty Teleport Spam habit, sometimes teleporting right on top of you in the middle of your swing, damaging you, pushing you away and following it up with even more nasty melee strikes. Some of his melee attacks can be parried, and he's susceptible to other ailments such as frost buildup, but if you can't get the timing down you're in for a rough round one.
- After defeating Radagon, you have one last opponent to face - the Elden Beast, who is particularly annoying since it not only has a number of difficult-to-avoid attacks, but it just doesn't stay still. The Elden Beast is constantly on the move, sinking into the ground where it is impossible to hit and then relocating to the other side of the massive boss arena. The player has to chase it on foot, and by the time they've reached the Beast they've barely got enough stamina for an extra attack before it starts moving again. While you're in melee range its size and attack animations don't play nice with the lock-on camera, disorienting you when you are about to strike. All the constant chasing can turn what should have been an epic final confrontation into an unbearable slog, especially when you realize it's immune to all status ailments that would otherwise help shorten the fight. As for some of the aforementioned highly-damaging, difficult-to-dodge attacks, one amounts to a platforming challenge where summoned rings have to be jumped over to avoid a large holy explosion, but the most chaotic moment comes when the Elden Beast conjures a miniature sun that shoots out a constant stream of stars as it chases the player. Not only does it last a long time, but it also continues to track you as the Elden Beast attacks independently of its movements, forcing you to choose between constantly getting hit by the stars while avoiding the boss's attacks, or avoiding the stars while getting wrecked by whatever moves the Elden Beast has decided to do in the interim. And yes, as mentioned before, you have to fight both Radagon and the Elden Beast in one go, with no flask refills in-between. If there was ever a game that made you Earn Your Happy Ending, it's Elden Ring.
open For Kingdom Hearts TV Tropes: Videogame
Wanted to pose the idea on replacing either the franchise page image, or the character page image with Nomura's 20th Anniversary artwork; I think it'd be appropriate- thoughts?
openFolders in the KHIV WMG Videogame
So on the WMG page for Kingdom Hearts IV, there’s a LONG list of potential worlds and summons… and I mean LONG. Should those be put into folders to save room? Maybe alphabetized too?
openKHIV memetic mutations Videogame
I’m looking on the YMMV page for Kingdom Hearts IV, and I’m wondering, when do the memetic mutation entries need to go to the franchise’s meme page?
openDiscOneNuke subpages Videogame
I've seen minor indentation issues on The Legend of Zelda in Disc-One Nuke, so I thought that it's time to move it to a subpage to resolve the indentation, but I just want to be sure first. What's the bare minimum needed before moving it to its own page?
openHow do I redirect? Videogame
I’m trying to get a character page for Kingdom Hearts IV that redirects to the main KH character page and I looked at the page for redirects, but it doesnt tell me what to write or click to actually make the redirect.
Edited by BigBadShadow22resolved Edit war Videogame
- On March 8, 2022, North Wind Gray added this example to Trivia.FridayNightFunkinTailsGetsTrolled.
- Crossover-Enthusiast deleted the entry on March 13, citing that trivia tropes can’t be played with.
- On March 14, North Wind Gray added the example back without citing an edit reason.
resolved Is Queen Sectonia too spoilery for videos? Videogame
Can I upload videos featuring Queen Sectonia from Kirby: Triple Deluxe? In the game, she is a Hidden Villain, and her existence is treated as a spoiler. However, her mere existence isn't really a series-wide spoiler, and she makes cameos in two subsequent games, Kirby: Planet Robobot and Kirby Star Allies. (If she's in Kirby and the Forgotten Land too, I don't know yet.) Even before these two games, many people were talking about her online.
Would it be too spoilery to add videos of her from her debut game, Triple Deluxe?
Edited by DrNoPumaopenGameplay Concepts Videogame
So regarding pages for upcoming videogames, I know gameplay is alright, but what if the gameplay/engine isn’t finalized (I ask because this is the case for Kingdom Hearts IV)
Here’s the footage with the gameplay: https://youtu.be/mcm_dfhnP8Q
openSandbox question Videogame
Would it be acceptable to create a sandbox page copy of Kingdom Hearts IV in the event it gets cut?
openShould A Normal Lost Phone be Spoilers Off? Videogame
A Normal Lost Phone is a game where you have to find out what happened to the main character by looking into their text messages. However, majority of the tropes listed are spoilered, I think it's best to put an unmarked spoiler warning due to the premise of the game.
Edited by TroperNo9001openShould the Sonic Rush series get split. Videogame
So both Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure share an entry under VideoGame.Sonic Rush Series as of now, however, while both are identical in several ways, I think both games, especially Rush Adventure, have enough unique aspects and the like to stand by themselves and justify a split for both games. What do you think?
Edited by Tylerbear12open Slimming down a list with a vague definition Videogame
(There isn't a Useful Notes filter, so I just went with the next best thing for this concern of mine.)
I feel like the list of voice actors included in Nintendo People is starting to get way too bloated, with a lot of picks that I feel don't really meet the criteria for the page and just make the list longer than it should be. I find it a little concerning.
With that being said, I think the list should have a better-defined qualification criteria to slim it down a bit. However, I don't want to undo people's choices all willy-nilly for my sake alone. Would anyone review the page with me and come up with more of a criteria to prevent people from adding choices that do nothing but bloat the list?
openMisplaced HilariousInHindsight Pokemon page? Videogame
HilariousInHindsight.Pokemon Uranium is listed in HilariousInHindsight.Pokemon even if it's a fan game. Should it be deleted?
In Arknights, a new character Heidi recently became playable. In her character folder in Arknights Supporters A To M, her only image is of her younger self, while her playable self is older and thus has different images. Is it okay to post the new images in the folder without consulting the Image Pickin' forums and place the current image in a note, as I am not replacing any images?
Edited by Excessive-Menace