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openSatanik (Comic Book) - Entire trope spoilered. Print Comic
In the page on the Italian comic-book "Satanik", there is an entry for the The Hero Dies trope (modified to appear as Villain Protagonist Dies) where the trope name and the rest of the entry are enclosed in spoiler markup. I understood that entire tropes are not suppose to be spoilered out. Should I un-spoiler the trope name?
openAdding tearjerker section to My Dress Up Darling page Print Comic
I want to add several examples of tearjerker for this series, but I don't know how to create a tearjerker section.
openOverly Literal Troper? Print Comic
Dragon Master 408 removed an example of Freudian Excuse Is No Excuse from Seven Soldiers on the grounds that the example did not meet the standards for Freudian Excuse, except that I've looked at the main page for Freudian Excuse Is No Excuse, and nowhere on that page does it say that examples must qualify for Freudian Excuse - all that is required is that a character give an excuse for their behavior and be called out for it, a standard which the Seven Soldiers example meets. Can I undo the edit?
Edited by StrixObscuroopenComics section on trope pages Print Comic
I've noticed that on trope pages that are divided into sections by medium, there's sometimes both a "Comic Strips" and a "Comic Books" section. This corresponds directly to the name spaces Comic Strip and Comic Book, of course, so it's entirely reasonable.
Sometimes there's a section called "Comics" that combines these two. And sometimes there's just a "Comic Books" section that contains examples both from Comic Book and Comic Strip.
What's the preferred organization here? In the last case above, should the "Comic Books" section be split and the strip examples moved to a new section?
openUnnecessary redirects Print Comic
There’s a troper going around renaming and redirecting pages. I don’t feel it’s necessary and I also don’t see a thread calling for it. An example is changing Jonathan Hickman's X-Men to X-Men (2019). The problem is Jonathan Hickman’s X-Men is a bunch of books, not just the volume that began that year. Is there a reason for this? It seems unnecessary.
openRe PariahPrisoner Print Comic
Just an observation - using a full page from a comic as page image doesn't quite do the job if you can't read the talk bubbles - the text is microscopic. Is there a way of expanding theimage so as to be able to read it?
openValid They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character example? Print Comic
Sarcasm Kid added this to Justice League Incarnate, a comic about a multiversal Justice League traversing and policing the multiverse:
- They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Earth-13 is toted as a magic based universe inspired from more superheroic versions of characters seen in the Grant Morrison Doom Patrol era and The Books of Magic. However, when Earth-13 is given a full glimpse in Justice League Incarnate #2 its hero community seems to only be made up of preexisting magic characters from the main DC Universe such as Raven and Black Orchid but with no attempt at making them seem unique or different from their regular counterparts.
This doesn't feel like an example to me. First off, I don't know where they're getting that first sentence from (the team members are the same as listed by Grant Morrison themselves in The Multiversity), and this isn't so much that they wasted a character as they didn't create characters this troper wanted.
Edited by FuzzyBarbarianopenVertigo's Childrens Crusade Print Comic
I am planning on making a page for Vertigo's Children's Crusade event, but as there already exists a The Childrens Crusade work page, obviously the new page with have to have a distinguisher attached. Should it be called The Children's Crusade (Vertigo), The Children's Crusade (1994), or something else?
openSplitting Off the Animal Man Page Print Comic
I'd like to split the current Animal Man to create a new work page devoted solely to the Jeff Lemire run, as it is very different from the classic Morrison and Delano runs. Should the new page be labelled Jeff Lemires Animal Man, or Animal Man (2011)? I'm currently leaning towards the former, as Lemire seems to have been the sole writer for the entire run, but I figured I should probably ask for input first.
Edited by StrixObscuroopenIs there ever newspaper filler text on a print comic or on an animated show? Print Comic
Every so often, in movies and TV shows, you see paragraphs like these in fictional newspapers:
Those come from an Earl Hays Press prop newspaper.
In a comic book, I think there's never any need for filler text, because any text that is not relevant to the story can be represented as squiggly lines, gray bars, etc.
As I'm not a regular reader of comic books, I don't know if I'm right about this or not. So my question is: when a newspaper appears in a comic book, is there ever any kind of filler text used?
Dec. 27, 2021 — Just remembered about the classic "Old Man Yells at Cloud" headline from The Simpsons. From the article body I can kind of make out "Oldest Abraham Simpson" and after that I'm not sure...
Edited by JohnRoreopenMassive Edit on RomanticTwoGirlFriendship Print Comic
Acebrock went through the entirety of "Romantic" Two-Girl Friendship and commented out every single example that they deemed "zero-context examples", even though several of them did have at least some context. Was this part of some cleanup project?
openComicBook/GenderQueerAMemoir Print Comic
I see this was cut for listing too few non-ZCE examples. That page says I might want to ask if it's okay to recreate it, so here goes. What do you think? I've got a whole list of examples to add, and they'll be full ones.
openSplitting the Seven Soldiers Page? Print Comic
The Seven Soldiers page is getting quite large, as it contains both the original Golden Age series and the Grant Morrison maxi-series. Would anyone object to splitting the Grant Morrison series off into Seven Soldiers of Victory?
openHi and Lois' YMMV page Print Comic
YMMV.Hi And Lois simply says "To be deleted". Looking at the history, this change was done by troper Gghnh this July, where he replaced the contents of the page (which was only a Were Still Relevant Dammit entry) with the message. Was that entry deleted for a reason, and they just forgot to place the page on the cutlist, or was it an unilateral removal without any discussion?
openIs it okay to make a self demonstrating page for Superman? Print Comic
I've been thinking about creating a self-demonstrating page for Superman but it's been said that it's been cut because it's "redundant". I mean, Most of Superman's supporting cast has a couple, so why not him? Is it okay to re-create one?
openCharacter Information Print Comic
Is there any way we can create a unified template for characters in comicbooks?
Right now for the Marvel characters I use the following template:
Character Name
PictureAlter Ego:
Notable Aliases:
First Appearance:
Summary
Tropes
Is there any thing we could add or remove? or use different terminology for the names like debut or real name?
Some pages also add powers and abilities, team affiliations, species, and nationality. I just want to streamline the template we use.
Also for aliases if we use it should we just use main names they've gone by or nicknames and the like?
openDC Comicbook names Print Comic
So I've been going through the DC comicbook and characters pages and I've noticed that alot of them are named really weirdly. for example Robin Series or Character pages seperated by comics or animations i.e. Comic Book Teen Titans and Animated Teen Titans. This is a recurring problem I've noticed and I was wondering if there was a better way we could name these pages i.e. by year of release or something like that.
openPossible Agenda-Based Editing Print Comic
fangsheadforever has been going through the Runaways Title Team page and systematically editing any tropes related to Nico Minoru's romantic history in order to downplay her relationship with Victor and remove any implication that she did anything more than kiss Chase, most recently removing a Sex for Solace example that references Nico and Chase's implied hookup in the last arc of the third series. A cursory look through their edit history shows that this troper has edited mostly romance and relationship trope pages and a lot of their edits are about Nico's relationship with Karolina, and notably, they completely rewrote an entry on Second Love to say that Karolina is Nico's second love interest, rather than Victor, on the grounds that Nico was actually just confused about her sexuality during her relationship with Victor. Does this seem a little questionable to anyone else?
openCaptain America =/= How It Should Have Ended Print Comic
Okay, I deleted the parts of the Captain America article referencing How It Should Have Ended because I believe they are unnecessary and often kind of insulting towards the greater history of Captain America. Look, just because other pages have references to parodies doesn't mean this particular page should have references to a parody, especially since this particular parody is not of the affectionate kind. Oftentimes, the How It Should Have Ended parodies come off as "I can do a much better job than people getting legally paid to do this stuff", and I think that comes off as disrespectful towards the official creators. I think that, for now at least, we should stick to the official materials.
In What Happened To The Mouse, there was an example from Elf Quest. That example seems to have been deleted during a re-org to put the examples in alphabetical order. Was that deliberate or has it just been missed? I'm asking because I don't want to jam it back in there if there was a good reason for taking it out. Original text: