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Wow. That's a misleading name.
It's only got 26 wicks. That's few enough that the whole list can be checked to determine how badly it's being misused. But even only checking 5, it's at 25% misuse, if all of the others are correct. And they are almost certainly not.
Of the 16 examples on the page:
- 7 are ZC Es
- of those, I'm familiar enough with the work to say 2 — The Parent Trap and Das Doppelte Lottchen — are definitely Type N (wrong)
- 4 of the other 9 — Frazier, Supernatural, Dumbing of Age, and Order Of The Stick — are all Type N (wrong)
That's at least 6 of 16, possibly as high as 11 of 16 that are wrong.
edited 30th Apr '15 12:52:18 PM by Madrugada
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Yeah, I was going to do them all but my computer was getting freeze-y so I just hit "Send" (already made this topic twice, didn't want to lose it again).
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I think "Type D" needs to be sent back to YKTTW, and Parent Trap Plot should get rewritten to "Type N" definition.
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So, just to double check, I am correct in that the current description doesn't even apply to the Trope Namer, right? Now, I haven't seen the flick in decades so I'm not sure, but I figured I'd ask.
Either way, it's still at odds with the general use of the trope, even if it does apply to the Trope Namer.
Few more wicks while I'm at it:
- Duck Tales: ZCE
- Dumbing of Age: Context is about a child getting his parents back together. Type N.
- Trope Namers/Film: Well, technically not misuse but it's confusing since it's Not An Example.
- Gossip Girl: Two examples, both Type N.
- Guess Who I'm Marrying?: Type N.
- House Arrest: ZCE.
- Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen: Not sure, but likely a Type N since it's described as a ripoff of Parent Trap.
- New Girl: Type N.
- O Human Star: Type N.
- Plots: Index.
- Series/Popular: ZCE
- Recap/Roommates: An aversion, so it could count for either.
- Suikoden II: Type N.
- Supernatural: Other Humans: Type N.
- The Adventures of Pete & Pete: ZCE. But I know the source example, and it's a rare Type D!
- The First: Seems to be a type N.
- The Parent Trap: ZCE.
- The Parent Trope: Index.
- Whole-Plot Reference: Says that the trope is a WPR to the film, which I don't think is the case.
- Yoko Oh No: Type N.
edited 14th Jul '15 10:02:31 AM by Larkmarn
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I think that this would work better as the trope namer plot. The other description doesn't seem to have examples.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
I don't think anyone has issue with changing the description to fit the trope namer (and by extension, fitting almost all of the examples).
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I say go for it, but you might want to wait for a mod.
Oh, of course. We do have two mods (mod hat off, mind you) who seem to support the idea at least.
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Just do it. You have permission. Do the thing.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Jawesome. I'll take care of this by tomorrow.
edited 3rd Jan '16 2:38:39 PM by Larkmarn
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Um, need help?
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Actually, could you? Something really huge came up in my personal life and I don't have time to rewrite a trope...
edited 19th Feb '16 6:37:51 AM by Larkmarn
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I know the feeling 
Trope-namer definition:
The plot usually begins with Amicable Exes who have been separated for years. The children of the estranged couple meet and figure out they're a Long-Lost Relative of each other. Then the plot begins in earnest as the children begin to make plans...
The first child wants to meet the second parent, and get to know them better. They get educated on how to act like the second child. The second child wants to meet the first parent, and get to know them better. They get educated on how to act like the first child. They're enjoying their times in switched circumstances (See Swapped Roles) when disaster strikes! One of the parents has decided that they want to marry someone new! Now the pressure is on for the children to play The Matchmaker between their parents, and prevent any other relationships.
That's the core trope, but there's a number of ways which it has been played with. Most frequently is to use only one child and ignore the Long-Lost Relative plot.
edited 3rd Oct '16 5:10:40 AM by crazysamaritan
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This is going to be so much fun.
Yikes, the trope name should be changed.
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Okay, why should we change the name and not the definition?
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Being a sane human being, I assumed that Parent Trap Plot would be about, well, the plot to The Parent Trap. Specifically, I was fairly certain it was about the child of an estranged couple using a scheme to get them back together.
Much to my surprise, it's actually about two friends whose parents enter a feud which is then resolved by the children. Now, if you squint your eyes it does sort of fit the trope namer (if you consider being ten years divorced a feud, and ignore the fact that the kids weren't friends until after the "feud"), but it's still very confusing.
Wicks: For the purposes of this, "Type N" refers to the trope namer, "Type D" refers to the current description.
- Arrow S2E14 "Time of Death": A single friend trying to get two feuding friends back together. Doesn't fit the description at all, so I'd consider it a platonic Type N.
- Baby Mentalist: One kid, two divorced parents. Blatant Type N.
- Brooklyn Nine-Nine S2E10 "The Pontiac Bandit Returns": An inversion of Type N, as they're trying to break up their parents.
- Buffy the Vampire Slayer S6E9 "Smashed": One character trying to get her two mommies back together. Type N.
- Divorce Is Temporary: Referenced in the description as a likely cause of DIT, which is clearly Type N.
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