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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

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#5776: Jan 11th 2018 at 2:18:29 AM

Somebody has launched Fauxrrari and Resurrection Teleportation.

edited 11th Jan '18 2:19:31 AM by alnair20aug93

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5777: Jan 11th 2018 at 4:19:55 AM

Sethical.Web Video and WinterMoon.Web Original Fiction were create in reversed namespaces and no tropes, sent namespace notifier to each of the creators

Between Sun and Moon has no tropes, sent stub notifier

Friday Night Fanfiction has no tropes, sent stub notifier

FoxJake Since: Jan, 2018
#5778: Jan 11th 2018 at 4:23:24 AM

How long am I gonna be suspended?

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#5780: Jan 11th 2018 at 5:32:21 AM

As someone who participated in the discussion for Fauxrrari — and since there wasn't an explanation as to why it's been brought up — I'd like to ask what's wrong with it. The heart of the trope was discussed, and it seems to be a valid subtrope of Bland-Name Product (such as iPhony or A.K.A.-47). The title was discussed, and people didn't seem to have a particular problem with it. There seems to be enough examples to justify a split. Moreover, the launcher did (just barely) participate in the discussion, and the draft got a bump from the sponsor in early December to no replies.

I vote keep, unless there's a convincing argument not to keep.

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FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#5781: Jan 11th 2018 at 5:43:49 AM

Re: Fauxrarri

Agreed. It seems mature enough.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#5782: Jan 11th 2018 at 5:47:41 AM

My potential issue is that I think it should be common courtesy for YKTTW sponsors to say that they're going to launch in a bump before they launch.

... actually, adding that functionality (giving them a star when they get bumped asking if they're ready to launch?) would be a wonderful feature, though I'm sure it'd be a pain to implement.

That said, this particular example is fine.

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#5783: Jan 11th 2018 at 7:30:02 AM

While I agree that it's courteous, just like in real life we cannot expect everyone to know "common" courtesies. It's nice and polite, but it isn't exactly written in the guidelines. And I say the following because there was a push last year against bureaucracy: Courtesies are often arbitrary and imposed by people "in the know" to differentiate themselves from amateurs and "other people." Just because somebody didn't adhere to courtesy shouldn't automatically mean there's a problem, though for this particular courtesy, it often does mean there is some problem (so I understand why we report such instances in the first place). My point being that if there isn't any additional problem, then what exactly is the problem? I would say that, in such a case, nothing would be the problem... though it may warrant keeping an eye on the launcher for sprees and rogue launches (where they don't contribute anything but launch it anyway).

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#5784: Jan 11th 2018 at 8:54:13 AM

Hence why I'm looking for more institutional solutions rather than unlaunch this one on principle.

Noting here that Roleplay.Deluxe High is still an unindexed stub after messaging the creator when they made an orphaned character page for it. I send them a stub notifier for this page and they've made no attempt to expand it.

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#5785: Jan 11th 2018 at 8:55:51 AM

Tarhalindur launched In-Universe Soundtrack a few days ago. It only has six examples (eight on the actual page) and a really long description that could use a trim.

Tarhalindur had also not participated in the trope's development at all before launching it.

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FoxJake Since: Jan, 2018
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#5787: Jan 11th 2018 at 3:12:29 PM

@5784: Time to cut it, then.

@5785: If they haven't participated, then they need a shoulder tap. I'm okay with sending it back.

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#5788: Jan 12th 2018 at 4:28:45 AM

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Blapper of Water
#5789: Jan 12th 2018 at 6:16:48 AM

The article was probably written by the author. The book was self-published and the English version is listed as "out of print" on Amazon (it's available as an eBook). So at least it exists. I'll add something as the description, though it'll still be a stub (I'm unfamiliar with this work).

Note that Cececat added Jerkass Woobie, an Audience Reaction "trope."

edited 12th Jan '18 6:24:50 AM by WaterBlap

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#5790: Jan 12th 2018 at 7:36:12 AM

They PM'ed me saying it's "okay to delete the page", although that makes no sense if it's an actual, published work.

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#5791: Jan 12th 2018 at 7:39:31 AM

They might have interpreted your post as implying that their edits were unacceptable to the point of justifying cutting, just like a thesis or job application which is denied rather than fixed.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#5792: Jan 12th 2018 at 7:55:06 AM

I mean, if you sent them the "Stub" notifier, it specifically says something along the lines of "if it's not fixed, then it may be deleted."

And if he's not going to fix it, well, that page has no right to exist without someone fixing all the examples and giving it a description.

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5793: Jan 14th 2018 at 3:11:58 AM

Afar has no tropes sent stub notifier

Etika W Network has two tropes sent stub notifier

UsefulNotes.Brisbane doesn't have much in the way of content

VisualNovel.Kenka Bancho Otome and WebOriginalFiction.Winter Moon were made by the same account but they are kinda weirdly formatted - like a Characters/ page

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#5794: Jan 14th 2018 at 8:10:47 PM

[up]I don't think WebOriginalFiction/ is even a valid namespace. I think Literature/ is used for original online fiction in addition to printed books.

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Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#5796: Jan 15th 2018 at 4:18:26 AM

[up] Notifier sent.

Edit: Checked again, and looks like there are actual examples now. Of course, there are some empty folders, but some do have entries that make the page worth keeping.

edited 16th Jan '18 3:42:10 PM by Berrenta

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TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#5797: Jan 16th 2018 at 6:30:28 AM

WesternAnimation.Groove Squad was created yesterday and is a Wikipedia copy-paste job on top of having no examples. The troper who did it, ~TMNT Fan Girl, also made an mostly-empty Characters page (only has folders containing character pictures) and a incorrectly designed Laconic page to boot. This was brought to my attention in the copy-paste cleanup thread, but I decided due to the other issues to bring it up here.

Also, for reference's sake, a forum search indicates they petitioned in this thread for help with examples. Make of this what you will.

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Irene Since: Aug, 2012
#5798: Jan 16th 2018 at 7:19:29 AM

I reported that thread yesterday, as it wasn't a proper thread to discuss the work.

That said, they clearly need a lot of help in explaining the rules and such. They're very enthusiastic about it, but have no bearing on our culture or rules yet.

jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5799: Jan 17th 2018 at 6:08:55 PM

TMNT Fan Girl added some examples after a stub notifier was sent but the description is the same so maybe a light tap on the shoulder about copying other sites

edited 17th Jan '18 6:16:11 PM by jormis29

jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5800: Jan 18th 2018 at 6:33:29 PM

Headscratchers.Treehouse TV is for channel and seems very complainy about real life - "It's not like YTV had a problem screwing over a girl show before"

Literature.Concept Of Islam has no tropes and it doesn't look like anything tropable

Solomon Fix has no tropes, I did a check and noticed that the page creator also made a number of pages for works by Doug TenNapel without tropes

New Beginning has only two ZCE examples, it also got some weird sub-pages like FanWorks.New Beginning which is a bunch of uploaded pictures

Sonic Exe Remake is a copy of the page template, sent stub notifier

Phantom Thread has no tropes, sent stub notifier

Sdorica Sunset has a one line description and no tropes, sent stub notifier


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