Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.
Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.
For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches
Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM
Saw that. Kinda seemed like "Dénouement, but with complaining."
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.Hm, that is one example where the early YKTTW drafts actually seem better than the final product.
OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!Paranormal Mundane Item just got launched, but still needs work. And probably for Mundane to go before Paranormal in the name, because that's what it's about.
OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!What's weird is that the sponsor, ~Just Troper, agreed to rename the trope to Mundane Paranormal Item but then launched the trope as Paranormal Mundane Item. That said, I think it only needs the rename. What other work does it need?
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they prettyLike Snowy Nights suggested that Paranormal should go first because it's a mundane item that turns out to be paranormal, and not vice versa, and I went along with this. If you want to rename it, I'm Ok with that.
first thing I saw was using Roman numerals for centuries, which isn't standard and is obviously confusing for those who don't know Roman numerals.The first sentence could do with rephrasing.
Yeh, the rules of adjectival order would put Mundane first.
OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!Replaced Roman numerals with ordinary ones, you can rename if you like.
edited 3rd Aug '17 3:13:58 PM by JustTroper
Judicial Wig is an appearance trope, but for judges and lawyers. The description even says "This may seem like People Sit On Chairs to some Tropers." I think this trope could be cut.
Every example is a judge, and unlike Scales of Justice, this is not a particularly common symbol of a concept (whereas Scales of Justice can be seen in various religions and other cultures).
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they prettyYes, cut.
OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!Someone has launched Caught in the Ripple — it had been taken over by Morgenthaler, but somebody thought it was launchworthy a bit early and hit the button, not doing any of the work afterwards, either. To the extent that the notes are still at the top. Can we get a simple unlaunch, please?
Also pinging ~Toxic Holy Grenade, who did the launching.
edited 6th Aug '17 10:00:53 AM by lakingsif
OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!Seconded. Toxic Holy Grenade did not participate in the discussion for that draft at all (unless it was under a different handle). Tempted to call it a troll launch.
This troper has some editing problems, too. Adding Word Cruft on Break Up Make Up Scenario, adding something about tomboys being lesbians on Tomboy, and adding some (arguably) useless information on Argument of Contradictions. Note that all of that was in the descriptions of tropes.
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they prettyUnlaunched.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanFound FanficRecs.Media and FanWorks.Media which appear to be someones fanfiction, the mods may want to lock them after it has been dealt with since I think other edktors have done similar things before on those pages
edited 8th Aug '17 1:25:36 AM by jormis29
Working on cleaning up List of Shows That Need SummaryCut and 🔐 ed. Will ask ~Hermella K whether they were trying to write a work.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanDungeon Travelers 2 has only two tropes listed, after I took lolicon off for being misused/questionable.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman- Well, there's a Characters page... With ~6+ tropes... And it's an RPG, so it likely has Character Levels, Hit Points, Mana Points, etc...
edited 8th Aug '17 9:31:03 AM by Malady
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Seems like it needs some tropes copied over, then.
Also, updated the link to recent pages in the header so that it works again. It also contains newly launched tropes.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman- Copy over the tropes from the Character Sheets? I know Fighteer said not to do that ~3 months ago on ATT... And that there was more discussion elsewhere, but I forget what the conclusion is...
"In the wiki's organizing structure, a basic principle is that any particular example of a trope should exist once across all of a work's subpages."
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576The proper action would be to move the tropes from the Characters subpage and then cut the latter.
edited 8th Aug '17 11:07:08 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Done. Requesting cut now.
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Superman Substitute was recently launched, but I'm not sure if it should be mentioned here or the expy clean-up thread. The first line of the description even says this is Expy but specific to Superman expies. I'm not sure if it should be cut, but it seems too strange not to at least mention here.
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they prettyI get the feeling that there is something tropeworthy about that, but it seems to be covered by Flying Brick and The Cape.
edited 10th Aug '17 10:48:47 AM by MorningStar1337
Sentient Stars was recently launched. AFAIK a trope's name shouldn't be pluralized unless it's essential to the definition, which isn't true for this trope since some examples have nonsentience/nonsapience being the norm for stars. I propose cutting the current article and transplanting the content to Sentient Star (or, preferably, Sapient Star, since "sentience" can mean things other than "self-awareness" or "human-level intelligence" even in fiction, whereas "sapience" is much more consistently defined) and changing the handful of wicks appropiately.
Another recent launch is Sci-Fi Flyby. Is this really a trope?
edited 10th Aug '17 2:18:50 PM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Star singular would probably be better, but I think Sentient is quite adequate. I had actually been planning to propose Living Star. The examples all fall under Sapient, but I don't see any reason to force that to be the bounds of the trope.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
Just found YMMV Climactic Non Finale which was launched yesterday, is not indexed, doesn't appear to have undergone any crosswicking, and looks like it could be a potential complaining-magnet.
Looking at it's YKTTW archive also shows that whilst it did have 5 hats, it also had 1 bomb, so shouldn't that mean it technically only has 4 hats.