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Deadlock Clock: Mar 28th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#1: Feb 24th 2012 at 12:03:33 AM

Actually, this is more a splitting suggestion. The drop down item I chose was just the closest that seemed to fit.

Woman In White seems to be several tropes in one, or at least a Super-Trope. The basic definition is 'a woman or girl who is wearing all white, and is important to the plot'. That can work, but then the description directly states "And most importantly: they've got style" (comes directly from the ykttw). That part is a bit dubious, as a lot of examples don't really fit that. Or those examples weren't intended, but then decay set in.

My point is the trope's a bit messy, and the varied reasons stated for wearing white (such as purity, style, evil, death) can make for their own tropes, even if we keep this as a more broad trope.

Oh, and just in case, here's a wick check. It's not about misuse here, but I'm feeling it's better safe to do this.

Correct (as far as I can tell):

Not enough context:

Misuse (like she just happens to be wearing a white outfit):

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#2: Feb 24th 2012 at 12:07:22 AM

Cloak and Dagger is correct. This is Cloak and Dagger. She's entirely in white and has both pale skin and hair as well, she's also the titular character. (Or one of them.)

edited 24th Feb '12 12:10:20 AM by shimaspawn

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#3: Feb 24th 2012 at 12:42:35 AM

[up]Again, the wick check was just a formality. How does the split suggestion seem to you?

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#4: Feb 25th 2012 at 11:11:47 AM

Basically, I mean evil woman in all white, mysterious woman in all white, virgin in white, and ghostly woman in white.

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Earnest from Monterrey Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#5: Feb 25th 2012 at 1:25:10 PM

It's been a while, but the thought behind the "style" line was that the lady is not wearing white because she pulled a dress out randomly from her wardrobe, she (or the author) has a reason for it.

That said, subtropes/indexes aren't bad, and it's certainly flavorful enough to split.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#6: Mar 25th 2012 at 10:29:14 AM

Clocking as inactive.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#7: Mar 25th 2012 at 1:20:21 PM

So does anyone object to a split?

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#8: Mar 25th 2012 at 1:25:51 PM

I do. I still don't see the point of it. It seems pointlessly pedantic and rather subjective.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#9: Mar 25th 2012 at 2:26:23 PM

I don't see the point of a split either.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Mar 25th 2012 at 2:27:35 PM

Neither do I. Can we just close this?

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animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Mar 25th 2012 at 2:33:39 PM

but he could add the subtrope suggestions to ykttw if he wants, btw

blackcat Since: Apr, 2009
#12: Mar 28th 2012 at 4:39:56 PM

There has been a request to lock as stalled and inactive. Complying. If you wish to reopen the discussion, holler.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#14: Apr 1st 2012 at 8:20:54 PM

So if some of you disagree with splitting, could you explain why? I just find that a woman wearing all white has two distinct reasons, innocence and mystery, and that makes two tropes. Why just shove them into one simply because the color is the same.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#15: Apr 6th 2012 at 6:18:36 PM

[up] You mean split it like this?

Mysterious and morally ambiguous woman in white, usually emotionless or stoic. Usally a White Mage,ghost or divine.

Creepy Child,innocent or timid young girl in white, usually scared, naive or spiteful. Sometimes a ghost or a Cute Monster Girl or rarely an Eldritch Abomination in disguise.

edited 6th Apr '12 6:39:06 PM by Oreochan

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animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#17: Apr 6th 2012 at 6:46:02 PM

[up][up]And just wearing mostly white to signify purity.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#18: May 9th 2012 at 6:03:12 AM

Expired clock and no activity for a month. Locking again.

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