Yu-Gi-Oh disambiguous page and splitting

As I brought up in this post of the Wick Migration thread, the Yu-Gi-Oh franchise has a lot works based around it. As it currently is, the Main page redirects to the second anime, which is the one most commonly known. The three anime spinoffs, the manga-only spinoff Yu-Gi-OhR, and the tenth anniversary movie also have their own pages.

I would propose the following split and making Main a franchise page:

• Manga.Yu Gi Oh
  • Anime.Yu Gi Oh or Anime.Yu Gi Oh Duel Monsters ; make one a redirect?
  • Anime.Yu Gi Oh Season 0 (or another name like Anime.Yu Gi Oh 1998)
  • Manga.Yu Gi Oh R ; manga only Interquel right after Battle City
  • Anime.Yu Gi Oh Capsule Monsters (short mini-series, before Millennium World)
  • Film.Yu Gi Oh (the movie was Japan-only)
  • Film.Yu Gi Oh The Pyramid Of Light or Film.Yu Gi Oh The Movie The Pyramid Of Light
• Anime.Yu Gi Oh GX
  • Manga.Yu Gi Oh GX
• Anime.Yu Gi Oh 5 Ds
  • Manga.Yu Gi Oh 5 Ds
• Anime.Yu Gi Oh ZEXAL
  • Manga.Yu Gi Oh ZEXAL (came before the anime, unlike GX and 5Ds, and actually follows the same story line; it may not be necessary)
• Anime.Yu Gi Oh Tenth Anniversary Movie ; crossover between DM, GX, and 5Ds; should this be under the Film/ namespace?

There should also be links to TabletopGame.Yu Gi Oh Card Game (currently at Main.Yu-Gi-OhCardGame), Characters.Yu-Gi-OhCardGame and UsefulNotes.Yu-Gi-OhCardGame. They might just become Tabletop Game (or Tabletopgame, I'm not sure about Wiki Word-ing namespaces with custom titles yet).Yu Gi Oh. There are also video games, but I don't know anything about them.

Normally, I would write up the red links myself and do a bit of crosslinking and let Wiki Magic do the rest of the work, but there are some questions I'd like to put forth:

• I've heard rumor that there shouldn't be any hyphens in page titles. I'd like to get this verified, since it also means moving all of the wicks for Anime.Yu-Gi-Oh and the card game stuff.
• Anime.Yugioh GX is a valid redirect. Should I do this (Yu-Gi-Oh as one word) for the rest of the series?
• Is it worth distinguishing between the OCG (card game as played in Japan) and TCG (as played everywhere else)?

And does anyone know anything about the video games so we can get that out of the way now?

edited 5th Feb '12 10:04:25 PM by Autumncomet

There are a lot of video games. But here's some of them. I can start a least two pages for them.

• For Yu-Gi-Oh:

• Yu-Gi-Oh Forbidden Memories
• Yu-Gi-Oh Monster Capsule GB
• Yu-Gi-Oh! The Duelists of the Roses
• Yu-Gi-Oh! The Sacred Cards
• Yu-Gi-Oh! The Falsebound Kingdom
• Yu Gi Oh Power Of Chaos Series
  • Yu Gi Oh Power Of Chaos Yugi The Destiny
  • Yu Gi Oh Power Of Chaos Joey The Passion
  • Yu Gi Oh Power Of Chaos Kaiba The Revenge
• Yu-Gi-Oh! Dark Duel Stories
• Yu-Gi-Oh! Reshef of Destruction

There are more games than this, but these are all I list for

edited 6th Feb '12 4:22:15 PM by Oreochan

The page would be Tabletopgame.Yu Gi Oh, not Tabletopgame.Yu Gi Oh Card Game. "Card Game" isn't part of the official title AFAIK.

YGO video games

Yugioh isn't a redirect; it's the same page as Yu Gi Oh. That's The Problem with Pen Island.

edited 6th Feb '12 3:12:33 AM by troacctid

Of those games, Yu-Gi-Oh Reshef of Destruction is the only one with a page.

Namespaced it.

Ah, okay, thanks. I'm inclined to make it Tabletopgame.YuGiOh as well, but if somewhere down the line we want to differentiate between the OCG and TCG, then it'll have to be split again. But I prefer dropping the card game part of the name.

So before I start splitting (which is probably only going to happen by Thursday at the earliest; I'm swamped until Wednesday), just one more question: are we allowed to have hyphens in URLs anymore or do we use the custom titler for that now too? YGO DM has hyphens in its url, as does YGO R, but none of the others do (and the aforementioned already have non-hyphenated redirects). I'd like some consistency.

On the video game front, the ones Oreochan listed are good (and I actually remember some of them ) to start off with; Anime.Yu Gi Oh 5 Ds has a folder just for its video game spin-offs, most of which apply to Tag Force and World Championship, so we can create those pages and let Wiki Magic make the others.

I also think Anime.Yu Gi Oh 1998 is better than Anime.Yu Gi Oh Season 0, but if someone wants something different, go ahead and say it. I won't make a manga page for ZEXAL because the manga and anime are pretty similar, and I'll move the 10th anniversary movie to Film/ once this gets underway. Any objections?

edited 6th Feb '12 3:06:38 PM by Autumncomet

On hyphens

Okay, awesome. My February break is coming up the weekend after next, so this will be done then.

So far I have everything that is at Main.Yu Gi Oh. I've moved all of the card game stuff to the proper namespace and gotten rid of the hyphens for those. I also moved Anime.Yu Gi Oh from its hyphenated URL while I was at it for consistency with the anime spin-offs.

I'll go through and move manga examples to the manga page and the 5Ds video game examples to the video game pages later. For now, I'm going to move the hyphenated wicks for the card game stuff.

EDIT: The custom title for Yu-Gi-Oh! isn't working, although the right thing shows up on the page itself. Any reason for this? But the custom title for Yu-Gi-Oh! is. The smurf?

edited 17th Feb '12 8:36:31 PM by Autumncomet

oh nvm What I originally posted already been acknowledged...

edited 17th Feb '12 9:02:15 PM by EarlOfSandvich

Update. Yu Gi Oh is now a pretty good disambiguous page. Thanks Troacctid for adding back the redlinks; someone had deleted them previously. I'm pretty sure it's Wiki policy to create red links so that when the page is created, we'll have everything ready.

I also made Manga.Yu Gi Oh. I'll try to hunt for an image of one of the volumes, but if anyone has one, that'd be great. My next project is moving the video game stuff for 5Ds to their Video Game pages. Per word of Shimaspawn, anime films belong under Anime/, so that stuff stays as is.

Anyone have an opinion on where Yu-Gi-Oh! Tenth Anniversary Movie should be in the bulleted list? /nitpick

edited 9th Mar '12 2:02:09 PM by Autumncomet

I think I prefer "Season zero." Is there a reason you like "1998" better?

1998 is more definite and non-fans might not know what Yu-Gi-Oh! Season 0 means. But I could go either way on that.

I was wondering, are we giving the 5Ds and GX manga separate pages? Because the GX manga character tropes are currently on the anime character sheet.

That was the idea. I've never read the GX manga and only read the first chapter of the 5Ds manga. I suppose I could find the sample first chapter of GX and create the page. But since the links are to Anime.Yu Gi Oh GX and Manga.Yu Gi Oh GX, their character sheets would both be at Characters.Yu Gi Oh GX, no?

Well, we could technically split the character sheet too. Characters.Yu Gi Oh GX Anime and Characters.Yu Gi Oh GX Manga.

I've read the GX manga. I'll take a look at it again to refresh my memory and then we can create the page.

Page made! Needs Wiki Magic love.

I wonder if we should make Main.Yu Gi Oh GX a disambig?

You mean similar to Main.Fullmetal Alchemist? That could work.

Yup, like that. I also think I should move the manga tropes from the character sheet to the main sheet. They aren't that many.

edited 3rd Jun '12 9:52:52 AM by lu127

Main.Yu Gi Oh GX now redirects to Franchise.Yu Gi Oh GX, since I guess it's technically a franchise. It's on the Ambiguity Index but not the Franchise Index. Is that good? I'm also okay with just the disambiguation page at Main/.

Also, do we need to list every spin-off under Shōnen Demographic?