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This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.

Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/) or, if they don't have an article, on Quotes Looking For An Article.

Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread in the Image Pickin' forum.

Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

MinisterOfSinister From 'Ell's 'eart Oi stab at ye! from In the Hall of the Mountain King Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#4951: May 2nd 2018 at 5:13:37 PM

I have a quote suggestion for The Mob Boss Is Scarier. Not sure if it's a worthy replacement for the page quote or should just go on the quotes page though.

"To lead, one must instill fear in one's followers. They must know insubordination will cost them more than any enemy ever could."

Penny for everyone's thoughts?

TheUnsquished Filthy casual from Southern Limey Land (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Married to the job
Filthy casual
#4952: May 3rd 2018 at 10:30:21 AM

Sorry if it's come up before, but if a trope page is No Real Life Examples, Please!, should that include the page quote? I only ask because in Image Pickin' the trope Misanthrope Supreme has come up, and the quote's from a real person.

(Annoyed grunt)
Zuxtron Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel from Node 03 (On A Trope Odyssey)
#4953: May 3rd 2018 at 11:08:29 AM

"Blackmail" Is Such an Ugly Word and "X" Makes Anything Cool both have the same quote, on top of having potholes in the quote (each linking to the other page I mentioned here, funnily enough).

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#4954: May 3rd 2018 at 1:10:02 PM

I suggest

Lucy: Oh come now, let's not call it that.
Ricky: That's what it is!
Lucy: I know, but let's not call it that.
I Love Lucy, "Bullfight Dance"
and from Quotes.Xtreme Kool Letterz
"With the X, I know what you are thinking. It's a marketing thing. You see, I wanted to call the show Going to Other Planets, but research says that shows with X in the name get better ratings."
Martin Lloyd, Stargate SG-1, "Wormhole X-treme!"

edited 4th May '18 12:56:51 PM by crazysamaritan

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#4955: May 3rd 2018 at 1:11:05 PM

They might be trying to do the same thing as Hello! My Name Is Inigo Montoya You Killed My Father Prepare to Die

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
dsneybuf (Not-So-Newbie)
#4956: May 4th 2018 at 3:36:23 AM

After the latest Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer, I've thought about changing the quote to something spoken by both of the title characters, especially since Marvel keeps calling the movie Hope's story. (If we wanted to post this one, I'd double check for accuracy first.)

Scott: I'll go high, you go low.
Hope: I have wings! Why would I go low?

TheUnsquished Filthy casual from Southern Limey Land (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Married to the job
Filthy casual
#4957: May 4th 2018 at 8:19:04 AM

Should I remove the quote from Misanthrope Supreme, then?

(Annoyed grunt)
ReynTime250 Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#4958: May 5th 2018 at 1:23:32 PM

The main quote for Bullying a Dragon and on the Quotes page for the Live Action Film is the same.

Shouldn't the front page one be the quote he says to the Hulk?

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#4959: May 5th 2018 at 4:31:43 PM

The quote on Killed Off for Real doesn't seem to illustrate the trope.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#4960: May 6th 2018 at 5:53:21 AM

That's partly because it isn't an example. We have Final Death for videogame characters that die in cutscenes when they usually get resurrected during gameplay.

There's a severe misuse problem with Killed Off for Real, where people use it for All Deaths Final. I'd say the only good quote in the subpage is the comicbook mantra.

edited 6th May '18 5:53:45 AM by crazysamaritan

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wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#4961: May 6th 2018 at 9:07:49 PM

[up]I'm almost entirely sure that Final Death is "avoidable but irreversible character death", not "character dies in a cutscene when you could have resurrected them during gameplay". Are you thinking of Plotline Death?

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#4962: May 6th 2018 at 9:09:34 PM

ugh, I think I was tired and only read the first paragraph. Yeah, you're right.

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MinisterOfSinister From 'Ell's 'eart Oi stab at ye! from In the Hall of the Mountain King Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#4963: May 6th 2018 at 10:32:56 PM

Okay, I'm going to wait three more days for a response. If no-one responds in the negative I'm going to make my suggestion the page quote for The Mob Boss Is Scarier. I'm saying this because I know you guys appreciate forthrightness.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#4964: May 7th 2018 at 6:37:58 AM

The Mob Boss Is Scarier: I don't think your quote or the current quote really address the criminal component of the trope. They could just as easily be about two potential dictators.

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#4965: May 7th 2018 at 11:40:16 AM

I prefer the proposed quote to the current quote.

MinisterOfSinister From 'Ell's 'eart Oi stab at ye! from In the Hall of the Mountain King Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#4966: May 7th 2018 at 2:25:46 PM

[up][up] Well, there is that. But does it have to be about criminals? I feel like it could be flexed a little to accommodate any instance where people would rather do something drastic than defy their Bad Boss. Besides, I don't see anyone proposing something that actually involves crime, so why not?

[up]Thanks. Only found it after wiki-ing around on baldursgate.wikia.com for a while.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#4967: May 7th 2018 at 7:22:16 PM

The YKTTW draft and current description are about criminal organizations. Removing that would technically be changing the definition.

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MinisterOfSinister From 'Ell's 'eart Oi stab at ye! from In the Hall of the Mountain King Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#4968: May 8th 2018 at 10:53:03 PM

Well, we're at an impasse then. Either you go dig up a replacement page quote that involves criminality or the trope description should be changed to accommodate the existing one and/or my suggestion. If I were an administrator, that's what I would do. Alas...

lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#4969: May 9th 2018 at 8:39:51 AM

Change a trope description to fit a quote? No. Remove the damn quote? Yes.

No quote > bad quote

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
MinisterOfSinister From 'Ell's 'eart Oi stab at ye! from In the Hall of the Mountain King Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#4970: May 12th 2018 at 12:01:58 AM

And here I thought tropes on this site could be adjusted. I was not under the impression they could never change, even in small ways.

But whatever, that's not what really cheeses me off. That'd be that no one responded until I declared my intention to actually do something with the quote. What's the point of bringing a quote to this thread for consideration if no one's going to say anything about it unless direct action is threatened? I can blink and all of a sudden the Complete Monster thread has gained three new pages, but this one? Sloooooow off the mark. You can't give me flak for not consulting this thread before changing page quotes, then ignore my suggestions when I do bring them here.

Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#4971: May 12th 2018 at 2:39:17 AM

Tropes can be adjusted, but only if they have problems with the examples. A page quote isn't even necessary to the trope (a lot of tropes don't have page quotes), and changing the trope definition for its sake is plain silly.

lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#4972: May 12th 2018 at 10:39:59 AM

Sorry I don’t check the thread every 5 minutes, maybe every 5 days

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#4973: May 13th 2018 at 3:42:15 PM

The page quote for Being Watched doesn't seem like it illustrates the trope very well without context. I feel like one of the options from the quote page would be a better fit; these two are my favorites personally:

I always feel like
Somebody's watching me
And I have no privacy
Rockwell, "Somebody's Watching Me"

Vila: I've the feeling we're being watched.
Avon: Automatic scanners will have picked us up as soon as we got here.
Blake's 7, "Pressure Point"

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#4974: May 13th 2018 at 7:27:19 PM

The quote for Born as an Adult is really long and doesn't fit very well.

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Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#4975: May 13th 2018 at 8:53:02 PM

The quote in Purple Eyes seems to be based on a Meme and is irrelevant to the trope (simply having purple eyes is not a trope)


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