General Page Quote Discussion:

@Madrugada: Cutting the Cuckold quote down like that would work.

So another sockpuppet of serial complainy-quote-adder Johnnyfog was crushed today, which brought back to the forefront of my mind something I've been wondering for a while: should some kind of cleanup effort be made to remove all of the hostile critic quotes he added to numerous quotes pages? I still frequently run into them (or at least quotes of the sort he would have added - I haven't checked the source), but I'm not sure what the actual policy is here, particularly since quotes pages have always had laxer rules than the main quote for a trope page.

Edit: To be clear, I'm not referring to the edits made by any of the socks - which I understand are supposed to be reverted on principle alone - but to the quotes added by his original account.

edited 8th Mar '17 7:07:59 PM by nrjxll

@4525: Sure, that first one seems like an okay compromise.

@4528: Does that include stuff added before his ban?

(And when was he banned, anyway? I've missed a lot during my extended absences from the forums, and don't catch everything when catching up.)

I ask after looking at Quotes.Incompetence Inc, where he added a lot of material, though not all of it is complainy stuff.

edited 9th Mar '17 9:57:26 AM by Nohbody

Maddy's post says "You can cut any quotes added by johnnyfog or any of his identified socks".

And he was banned months ago, but he just keeps coming back. And back, and back. You can see his appeals in the EBS thread for his initial ban.

Wall of Text has a complainy Yahtzee quote. It might work as-is considering the subject matter, but I think it could do with being replaced.

We've got the same quote on both Ancestral Weapon and Elegant Weapon for a More Civilized Age. (And what is very very close to being the same image too, but that's an IP issue.)

I'm thinking of swapping it out on Ancestral Weapon for the Dragon Age: Origins – Awakening quote from the quotes page. Does that sound alright?

edited 9th Mar '17 6:24:38 PM by TotemicHero

Regarding Quotes.Incompetence Inc, I left the In-Universe examples even if they were added by johnnyfrog. I know "any" means "any", but I couldn't quite bring myself to nuke almost everything (though if you look at the edit history, I came pretty close to it ).

edited 9th Mar '17 7:48:34 PM by Nohbody

(Almost the) same image too... I might as well start an IP thread for that.

Wall of Text: Agree that needs replacing.

Ancestral Weapon: looks good.

Troll Fic and Peter Chimaera have the same page quote.

The current quote for Weimar Republic is a line from The Producers,

I propose to change it by adding a quote from a 1929 German novel (for which I am currently making a page for).

I want to change it with this...

I prefer the second quote because the first one is A) Bland, B) Can Apply to many other periods of German history (Thirty Years' War, The Peasants War, the Revolutions of 1848, The Napoleonic Wars, East Germany).

The second quote captures the tensions of the Weimar Republic particularly (not least because it was written from that time), that it is on one hand the German Reich of Imperial Germany in new form, that its filled with violence (there were many political assassinations, street fights etcetera) in that time.

Don't add a second page quote, each article should only have one. Possibly that one should replace it, though.

Black Sheep Hit's quote should be swapped with the one on the quotes page or something better. The current one just sounds like Creator Backlash.

The one on the quotes page is pretty good, I'd go with that one over the rather vague one in use now.

SoYouWantTo.Be Original has three quotes. I kinda like the first one the best, but it might be too concise for some. Thoughts?

I like the first one.

Troubling Unchildlike Behavior has a kind of terrible quote. I can't find any good replacements, but this was the previous one:

That sounds more like Enfant Terrible than Troubling Unchildlike Behaviour. The ones in the Quotes subpage aren't much better though, and the first two of those are simply dialogues about death, with no indication that the speaker is a child.

I'd like to use a quote from Logan, but they don't actually talk about it much. This is the only one I can think of, and I don't think it quite works.

Artistic License – Medicine has a potholed quote with an improper reference -but I'm not sure it's the best quote for the page anyway.

edited 18th Mar '17 10:49:56 PM by Candi

Yeah... that's not a good quote. It's confusing, slightly insulting, and is about hospital practices instead of medicine. If that belongs anywhere, it's Artistic License – Law.

Black Jack will work, but this quote is currently on the Black Jack page, so we'll need another quote for that:

"Osamu Tezuka was educated as a doctor, so the stories are rich in medical knowledge and experience. Except, of course, when Tezuka decides that it would be more fun to just make crazy shit up. Which is pretty much constantly."

— Overlooked Manga Festival on Black Jack

That suggestion is good for AL-Medicine, but I don't see what the one it would replace has to do with AL-Law?

Sorry, I was being a bit facetious. The critic quote wouldn't be a good page quote for AL-Law, or even a good quotes page quote. I just meant that hospital hiring practices are more about law than medicine. If someone wrote up an example about that incident, it would go on the law page instead of medicine.