All Purpose Evangelion Fanfiction Thread

I've been, slowly but surely, working on an Evangelion/Pokémon Fusion Fic (which I took the liberty of making a trope page for) and i was wondering what you guys though of the Pokémon teams I came up with for the main characters.

Shinji—Genesect, Marowak, Sandslash, Raticate, Pidgeotto, Furret

Asuka—Groudon, Primeape, Blaziken, Magmortar, Scizor, Zangoose

Rei—Mewtwo, Uxie, Azelf, Mesprit, Darkrai, Deoxys

Mari— Palkia, Toxicroak, Tyranitar, Liepard, Gastrodon, Seviper

Misato— Empoleon (shiny), Gyarados, Nidoqueen, Kangaskhan, Shuckle

Toji— Kyurem, Arcanine, Dodrio, Hitmonlee, Venusaur, Golduck

Kensuke— Magnemite, Octillery, Elekid, Electrode

Gendo— Hydreigon, Gengar, Alakazam, Shedinja, Ninjask

Ritsuko— Espeon, Persian, Chansey, Porygon 2

Kaji— Tropius, Mawile, Masquerain

Kaworu— Giratina, Mismagius, Umbreon, Mimikyu

edited 22nd Jan '18 1:49:30 PM by ElSquibbonator

My first two thoughts are, in order:

• "EvangeleMon" makes me think more of Digimon than it does Pokémon. This isn't necessarily a criticism, just a comment.
• Holy crap, that is a lot more Legendaries than I would've expected. Admittedly, I haven't looked at the trope page or at the fic and thus have no idea how you're runningit, but if it were up to me? I would mostly hold those back until toward the endgame, as a sort of 11th-Hour Superpower.

I'm a wee bit pressed for time right now, but I should be able to offer further commentary later on.

EDIT: On actually taking a gander at the trope page, it looks a lot better/more promising than I initially expected.

Any chance we can get a link?

edited 14th Jan '18 9:27:04 PM by EvaUnit01

Well, it's currently being uploaded on the Eva Geeks forum. It's taken a long time to write, though; I'm about three years in, and I've only completed 10 out of 26 planned "episodes".

edited 14th Jan '18 10:01:09 PM by ElSquibbonator

Don't feel bad about it. I've been writing my own crap for seven years now.

More silly questions for SCE.

How would March of the Exelion fit as a national anthem?

... I have no idea what that is.

A vocal version of the Buster March.

... I assume it's for the Sovereign Military Order of St. Longinus (or whatever you're calling the ultimate successor to Nerv/AEL)?

Nope, it's for their successors.

I did say national anthem.

All right. You wanted a link to my story? You got one.

http://forum.evageeks.org/thread/16052/Neon-Genesis-Evangelemon/

Well, either way it's a very good choice IMO.

On a different note, reading about German names (partly to see how Asuka and Kyoko's names fit with their native culture's conventions) revealed to me the following facts:

1. As of Germany's current laws on the matter, married couples have the following options when it comes to choosing their new family's surname:
   1. Keep their birth surnames.
   2. One spouse has their surname designated as the "family name", which is what will be inherited by the couple's children^Example Herr Schmidt, who married Frau Meyer, becomes Herr Schmidt-Meyer; any children they have will have the surname "Meyer".. The other spouse does either of the following:
      1. Adopts this family name in lieu of their birth surname.
      2. Adopts a new surname that consists of the family name prefixed with their birth surname (or their last-assumed married name) in hyphenated form (AKA double-barrelled name).
         • Note that under current German law, the family name can only be a double-barrelled name if the spouse whose surname is used as such is already double-barrelled.

2. It's actually quite common for a German child to be given several forenames ^note that's the literal English translation of the German term for said names, Vorname, with one being chosen as their "appellation" (German: Rufname), i.e. it's what they use for daily purposes. Said appellation name is not always the first forename; for this reason, on official documents the appellation is underlined for clarity's sake.

The first fact could explain Gainax's seemingly odd choice of ordering the surnames that Asuka inherited from her parents when rendering her name in Western order (that is, "Asuka Shikinami Langley" rather than "Asuka Langley Shikinami"), when the Japanese order (Shikinami Asuka Langley) clearly affirms that, in Japanese at least, Shikinami is her family name, with Langley being a "surname turned into a middle name" case (compare real-life examples like "Hillary Rodham Clinton"); the only deviation is the lack of a hyphen.

• Of course, TV!Kyoko has by all indications retained her maiden name, yet AFAIK we have no idea what the name of Rebuild!Asuka's mother is (do we even know if her given name is still Kyoko?). That being said, I think it would be plausible to assume that NGE!Germany had a new reform to its name laws that gives greater latitude to married couples when choosing their children's surname, e.g. by allowing children to inherit a double-barrelled name derived from both their parents' surnames even if said parents did not change their surnames in the first place.
• Mari's full name being given the same treatment could also be explained using a similar rationale, BTW; turns out British tradition does have precedent for unhyphenated double-barrelled surnames (example: Ralph Vaughan Williams).

So, yeah. If Rebuild's take on the Western-order rendering of Asuka and Mari's names is supposed to be taken at face value, their respective family names are "Shikinami Langley" and "Makinami Illustrious", with Japan's strict name laws apparently forcing them to use "Shikinami" and "Makinami" alone as family names and relegate "Langley" and "Illustrious" to de facto middle names... which don't exist as a name category in Japanese law per se, but that doesn't stop manga and anime in general from acknowledging their existence by treating them the same way old-timey Overly Long Names from pre-20th century Japanese history get treated by pretty much everyone, i.e. as extra given names.

Now, the second fact makes me wonder... What additional forenames do you think would be appropiate for Asuka and Kyoko? I'm thinking they should be at least German, though for Asuka I would go for a name that exists in both German and (American) English, given her father is from the USA.

edited 17th Jan '18 3:51:13 PM by MarqFJA

Made an interesting discovery today.

Apparently, FF.net accepts zalgo text...

Cut-and-pasting this because it's been left behind a pretty hefty amount of pages ago.... and, dunno, I am pretty sure that I am not the man who can write this (hell, it's hard for me to even write a Tropes page), but I believe a good writer could bring this idea to life....

OK... standard "Evangelion Pilots are superheroes" kind of story. They got superpowers, they kicked ass, everything seemed to look up, right?

So here's the twist: it did. For a while. It was a golden age.

But then everything came crashing down HARD.

The events of the local EOE were... even more extreme. Apocalyptically extreme. And even if the world didn't totally ended, all heroes died, sacrificing themselves in this titanic battle in order to buy the world a new day.

And the world kept turning and people rebuilt, and the heroes were remembered.

But it eventually happened that the heroes.... even if they had spent every erg of their amazing strength, spilled every drop of their blood, broken every part of their magnificent physiologies, in this final sacrifice... were not as dead as it looked before.

Because what gave them their superhuman abilities had one gift to showcase, one that (understandably) had never been seen before: a capacity to go into a death-like suspension coma if their bodies were terminally damaged, to try and repair themselves.

And it took many years, but their bodies healed.

So now... in a moment when heroes are needed again... with the remains of humanity against the wall and praying for salvation... in the depths of those places on Earth that were so devastated that no man had set foot ever again...

...the heroes are stirring from their slumber.

... Huh. That's interesting. Also, I finally have a name to put next to the "face" of a concept that I've already seen several times before, but which I never knew what it's actually called.

You know you could've just linked to the post you're copy-pasting from instead of copy-pasting everything, right? Just saying.

Didn't knew that. Then again, I don't know a whole lot of how to work here, so I apologize.

I was looking into the matter to see if I could sneak in some zalgo into SCE's latest chapter.

Namely, Kaworu and Tabris are having a conversion when the universe suddenly glitches out from a Stable Time Loop, represented by an extremely zalgo'd status message, then the conversation continues and the narration notes how nobody noticed anything out of the ordinary.

I originally wanted to put in a description of everything just having frozen for a moment: Asuka mid-turn in her bed, the snowflakes outside mid-fall, Yui mid-order during work, the computers mid-operation from their electrons stopping, the stars mid-fusion as the very quantum forces affecting all matter having ceased to apply, etc., but decided to scrap that and just abruptly throw in the zalgo then continue as if nothing had happened, ending the scene with a minor lampshade of nobody having noticed that the entire freaking universe just had a momentary Time Stands Still to make the audience go "...what the hell just happened?!"

Time Stands Still implies that there's an observer to whom "time" is still "moving", so to speak. It might be wise to begin such a scene with something to effect of "If there were someone peeking into this universe right now while staying outside said universe's timestream, ..."

Well, the closest nearby person whom would still experience it in realtime is Leliel and she's not present. Or rather, she's the one causing the whole thing in the first place - and the fact that not just the Angels but even their creator doesn't perceive the phenomenon says a lot about how high-level the whole thing was.

Something that came to me today in the context of the very far-off third part of SCE's saga.

Since that part of the story is fully OC-only for the most part, I've had some cast member ideas. Namely, the main protag's team would be made up of a pair of two-pilot Super Prototype Evas. For the main protag, my choice in co-pilot was a Shrinking Violet who almost washes out of training altogether before the heroine, seeing that the other girl is merely in need of some courage (she's suffering from frequent verbal abuse at home), puts her foot down to the instructors and declares that she's not going anywhere without her friend as her co-pilot.

The issue I'm trying to get at isn't with them, but with the other pair. Originally, I wanted a pair of boys to balance out the pair of girls: one very popular and attractive, almost princely guy with a lot of girls crushing on him (including the heroine at first) who eventually gets hit with a massive Broken Pedestal effect (his parents were collateral damage in a battle with Angels just like the heroine's but while she took it in stride for the most part and aspired to become a pilot to be a guardian, he grew up into a bitter and genocidal xenophobe and became a pilot purely for revenge, proving that he's everything she's not); the other guy would've been Hot-Blooded and Birds of a Feather with the heroine and would've had a crush on her she hadn't noticed because of her own thing for the first guy (and after the aforementioned Broken Pedestal plot point, she would've hooked up with this guy instead).

However, now I'm thinking of reinterpreting these two. Of the first guy, I recently read TV Tropes' character page on Maria Vincennes and realized that she'd be an excellent stand-in for him, with the matching gender serving to reinforce the contrast with the heroine even more. With the other, however, today I considered a potentially controversial spin.

I'm thinking of making this guy intersex.

Specifically, a person who's male as far as genetics, naughty bits, gender identity and sexual preferences go, but due to a hormonal disorder, he developed female secondary sexual characteristics upon hitting puberty and is now completely indistinguishable from a tomboyish girl unless he loses his Modesty Shorts. He doesn't hide his gender either in the sense that whenever someone gets the third-person pronoun wrong, he corrects the speaker and freely explains his condition if they ask. However, it does put a considerable strain on his private life: he has too much boob for het girls, too much dangly bits for homo girls and is strictly heterosexual himself (hence him having a thing for the heroine; in fact, when he accidentally walks in on her changing, he's far more flustered about it than she is, even with her fully aware of his gender and him having seen nothing he doesn't have himself), the combination of which eliminates pretty much everyone as a potential date. Even friendship is difficult: girls don't talk to him the way they do to each other because they know he's not a girl and guys are too weirded out by his looks (he's not unattractive by any means, as far as his own gender's standards go) to treat him as a guy.

That said, while it wouldn't be a plot point, it would be mentioned that even though he has the proper package and urges, his testosterone levels are not exactly healthy as far as fertility goes, so he and his girlfriend would likely need medical assistance if they wanted children because it's not at all guaranteed that he's viable as-is.

Should I go for it?

edited 1st Mar '18 10:45:27 AM by amitakartok

While working on designs for human versions of the Angels, I've realized that I can't really imagine Ramiel as anything other than a short, cute-looking girl who totally doesn't look like the type to be associated with Wave Motion Guns and overkill-y firepower. And Israfel must be a pair of identical twins, whether two boys, two girls, a boy and a girl, or intersexes (or even true hermaphrodites) (bonus points if they have Ambiguous Gender looks). And Shamshel keeps popping up in my Imagine Spot as an imperious dominatrix. And Zeruel is always a tall mountain of powerful muscles, whether male or female (with Boobs Of Steel in the latter case).

... I'm on the fence concerning this one, honestly. It can be done right, I think, but not easily.

Considering that this character is third-gen (2068-era), it's not going to be relevant for a very long time. When it comes to that era, I'm mostly just tossing ideas at the wall to see what sticks.

After becoming familiar with Re:Zero, the idea of Israfel being a Ram/Rem type of pairing is especially appealing to me.

edited 9th Mar '18 7:11:02 PM by Willbyr

I'm only familiar with those two characters' looks. Abridged summary of them, please?

I was talking about their appearances...I haven't read enough of the manga to get a firm grasp on the actual characters.

So they're the first pair of identical twins that came to your mind? The Hitachiin brothers from Ouran High School Host Club are what I was thinking of, personally.

On a related note, the Israfels, Zeruel and Arael are the Angels that I see as having the strongest motivations for choosing to re-corporealize as humans if given the opportunity; for the Israfels and Zeruel, it's because of Spirited Competitor-style rivalry with Shinji (and Asuka, in the former pair's case), while for Arael it would be to atone for mind-raping Asuka (that is, assuming that h/she has had a My God, What Have I Done? moment and did not go the Ignored Epiphany route).

The funniest thing about this is that I can totally buy that — due to his first impression coming from their one and only encounter, which was a battle to the death where the boy in question effectively went berserk on his own and almost wiped the floor with the Angel of Might before running out of power, then managed to awaken his Eva and proceed with a true curbstomping — Zeruel honestly believes Shinji is an uber-badass who'd totally look the part, only to be shocked when he meets him in person and sees that he's a barely adolescent, scrawny-bodied boy with abysmal self-confidence and a huge aversion to even non-physical confrontations.

edited 10th Mar '18 11:47:55 AM by MarqFJA