All Purpose Evangelion Fanfiction Thread

Sorry, this is one thing I think I've missed so far but: what are/is the FAR?

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第一始祖民族 Daiichi Shiso Minzoku, or "First Ancestral Race". [1] [2] I personally coined the Fan Nickname "Primogenitors" for them, which IIRC was received rather well by other posters here.

To sum them up, they're Sufficiently Advanced Human Aliens (for a given value of "human"...) that are the Precursors of humankind and Angelkind through the Seeds of Life. All we what we concretely know about them — which is available in the above-linked articles ^note see also the Classified Information Files, the main source of such info, as well as Kaworu's Good Ending in the NGE2 PSP game, another source that is referred to in the EvaGeeks Wiki article. comes from supplemental materials that have never made it overseas, so it's understandable that you may have never heard of them before.

edited 28th Jul '16 6:39:40 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

Indeed. I'm merely giving them a greater role.

And since we've been talking about the possible future... having freshly arrived home from my uncle's funeral, I have had a thought while trying to survive listening to the Polish priest's accented Catholic sermon. Evangelions are artificial beings brought to life through the power of science. They exist even though they shouldn't and have a conscious mind even though they shouldn't.

What kind of spiritual belief would Evangelions follow?

edited 29th Jul '16 12:17:38 PM by amitakartok

Gotcha, thanks Marq—I knew of them before, just didn't make the connection to the acronym until now.

How do the FAR compare with the Combine in SCE then? The Combine seemed like their leaders were themselves fairly insurmountably powerful compared to humanity—from what I recall the combine Advisors weren't even appearing at full power in the game and they were capable of at least mild time manipulation shenanigans. Not quite G-Man level, admittedly, but still pretty powerful, which they'd have to be to enslave entire universes.

Plus the name "Advisors" just raises further implications as to who they're supposed to be advising...

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The Combine invade, enslave and stripmine universes.

The FAR create universes for scientific study.

Don't forget that "advisor" is a human word coined at a time when the Combine was ruling Vichy Earth through a human puppet dictator. So it's pretty likely that Breen was the advised individual in question - you know, like how the Soviet Union's national apparatus was subordinate to the communist party?

The Vortigaunts call them by a wholly different name.

edited 30th Jul '16 7:57:23 AM by amitakartok

Speaking of the FAR, the reboot for The Coming of the First Ones is here. Check out The Second Coming for updates every Monday.

Author of The Second Coming (NGE) and The Coin (Haruhi).

The Second Coming, eh?

....sorry, instinctive reaction. Definitely intrigued to see where you're gonna take your rewrite.

Now I need to make a trailer using that, thanks. :P

Author of The Second Coming (NGE) and The Coin (Haruhi).

When you say "shouldn't", do you mean "are considered impossible and/or cosmically improbable by the science that created them" OR "impossible and/or improbable by the other sciences"?

Suggested Belief #1: Higher Will

If they exist, despite the fact that they shouldn't, this means that something not restrained by science had caused their existence. Or whatever variation of this phrase fits your story the most. If so, then the Whatever Made Them Be must have had a reason to do so - after all, there are other things that should not exist, which do not exist, unlike the Evangelions. Since they came into exist by the efforts of the group that tries to protect the humanity from sure-fire extinction by inconceivable alien threats - maybe they are the living proof of the fact that someone, somewhere, is looking out for humans?

Suggested Belief #2: Pure Luck

They shouldn't have existed, and yet they do. This is proof that not even science can predict what is possible and what isn't. And, since anything can happen, then the only true moment that defines our existence is right now. Make the most of it. Do you enjoy blasting eldritch abominations with your bio-cybernetic arm-cannons? If yes, enjoy it to the fullest. If no, learn flower arranging, or something, because no-one else will enjoy your life for you. Don't sweat the small stuff, because it's not worth the sweat. Don't sweat the big stuff, either, because that's just bad luck. Against that, nothing can protect you.

Suggested Belief #3: Ultimate Effort

The humanity had to create Evangelions, because they needed something to protect themselves against the Angels. Even though it was scientifically impossible, humankind has wasted money, manpower and resources - and in the end, despite the fact that it shouldn't have been possible, their efforts bore fruit. This means that, if you concentrate your efforts and don't give up, even the impossible becomes possible. In the face of willpower and effort, nothing matters. Row row fight da powa and all that.

Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.

I meant that if it weren't for science, they would not exist and never would have existed.

In terms of religious leanings, I'm thinking the Evas could pick up ancestor worship: at moments where a Christian would swear by God, the Evas would swear by the Evas who fell in battle. There's no priesthood, holy texts or codified rites; it's all completely spontaneous.

Evas exist to fight and destroy - yet at the same time, to protect their human pilot first and foremost. That is the very reason for their existence. Their equivalent of praying is quiet meditation while analyzing the actions and dying heroics of their deceased brethren, strengthening their resolve by reminding themselves what they live for and what the others died for, so that they may turn that resolve into righteous fury and avenge the fallen a thousandfold.

edited 3rd Aug '16 12:56:53 PM by amitakartok

Here's a thought that has relevance to your "Evangelions as thinking beings with (quasi-)religious beliefs": What would Evas think of situations where humans other than their pilots try to coerce said pilots into doing something they don't want to do? Would they consider it a grave taboo that earns the offender the Eva's inhumanly deep hatred?

Example scenario from canon: Gendou ordering Shinji to attack and destroy the rogue Unit-03 with extreme prejudice even when that almost surely will result in Unit-03's pilot (who is effectively being used by Bardiel as a hostage/living shield) suffering grievous harm (anime) / getting killed (manga). For the record, several fanfics (many of which are Peggy Sue fics) have the Bardiel fight diverge from canon by having Shinji, Rei, and/or Asuka purposefully act to temporarily disable Unit-03 and rip out the stuck Entry Plug so that it could be taken to safety, then proceeding to pulverize the Angel-infested Eva until all bio-signs have ceased.

edited 3rd Aug '16 3:54:50 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

That is indeed a good question. It's not like Evas have the option of fragging or something.

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Copypasted from SV.

... There is no guarantee that the timing of the shipping would affect whether or not it gets infested by Bardiel. We don't know how long it had been there in the atmosphere among the clouds, biding its time.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

...a few minutes ago, I came up with an idea for an eventual SCE sidestory. Kinda like a midquel.

Currently trying to come up with a working title for it; the current title idea is Sang Oblige, a play on the phrase noblesse oblige by replacing noblesse (French for nobility) with sang (French for blood), lampshading what the sidestory is about.

Hilariously enough, there's a fic with that phrase, though. I thought the author meant nobility obliges when it was translated. It was also used as a Title Drop at some point during the story.

(tis a Familiar of Zero fic)

edited 5th Aug '16 3:47:05 PM by VoidsEmpathy

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I've seen FoZ fics before where Tristain spoke French... even though Tristain is supposed to be Belgium and as such, they should be speaking Dutch.

edited 5th Aug '16 3:59:32 PM by amitakartok

Yeah, the whole language weirdness in canon didn't really sit well with me even though I'm not very knowledgeable on them, but whatever. I haven't read too many fics either. Hill of swords notwithstanding of course.

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I too only read that onmyouji one.

Anyway, we should be getting back on topic.

At some point in history, French is pretty much lingua franca for all "civilized" Europe, so that's that. Also, most Tristain characters are pretty much based on historical French figure and taking French name convention.

I thought Tristain was supposed to be the Netherlands, back when it also encompassed what today are the two other members of the Low Countries (Belgium and Luxembourg). The latter two have significant French-speaking populations, incidentally.

On a more on-topic note, yesterday I've read an And I Must Scream real-life entry about this guy's struggle with a combined case of retrograde and anterograde amnesia, then for some reason thought about the fanfic Scar Tissue. It made me start to imagine a scenario that starts off similarly to Scar Tissue, i.e. post-EOE, Asuka is even bitchier and physically violent than ever, and she ends up causing Shinji an unpercedentedly serious injury that shocks her out of her bitchiness and prompts her to pull a 180 as she devotes herself to being The Atoner... only instead of needing physical rehab, Shinji has lost almost all of his past memories and cannot store new ones in his long-term memory. About the only things he hasn't forgotten are the following: His name, his mother's name, his birthday... and who Asuka and Rei are, what they look and sound like, what their personalities are like in general, several bits of trivia about them that few people know about (and some which only he knows about!), and the fact that he's head over heels in love with them for different reasons.

Oh, and Misato makes him feel conflicted between sexual attraction and feeling like she's a mother/older sister figure, while seeing Touji and/or Sakura's faces makes him feel very guilty, without knowing why. (Yes, even up until his amnesia, this Shinji still felt guilt for both unintentionally hurting Sakura in his first sortie and for self-perceived responsibility for Touji's loss of his leg in the Bardiel incident.)

edited 5th Aug '16 6:06:20 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

While trying to amuse myself during the wedding I'm attending as I'm writing this, I was wondering...

Would there be interest in a Tournament Arc series featuring a futuristic setting where the Eva characters beat the stuffing out of each other in 3-on-3 wargames using semi-solid, semi-holographic equipment in the style of Infinite Stratos IS units and Kancolle, with Gakuen Datenroku-style humanoid Angels trying to hijack the whole thing and SEELE being up to no good as usual? Namely, the technology allowing this was reverse-engineered off some Applied Phlebotinum SEELE stole off the Angels and which the Angels are trying to steal back by any means necessary, even if they have to kill their way through the whole tournament in the process - all the while SEELE are harvesting special brainwaves from the combatants under the cover of the tournament to power up the phlebotinum with.

*arrives home four hours later, looks at thread*

...nobody? Huh. In hindsight, I should've expected that.

Maybe I shouldn't do that "gotta write this down before I forget it" thing...?

edited 6th Aug '16 6:47:41 PM by amitakartok

To be fair, I haven't been anywhere else on the internet in the past several hours, either.

Seems like an interesting thing.

One of the plot threads in the above idea would be the fact that Kyoko was a former contestant who died during one of her matches; Asuka was present on the spectator stands but as she was very young, she doesn't remember much - only that Kyoko's killer was wielding a large scythe.

Note: while battles are not to the death, fatalities tend to happen and the contestants' contracts include a voluntary clause to waive any legal responsibility for their deaths. Disqualification, disbarment and/or calling in the law enforcement authorities for murder only happens if you deliberately execute a downed and incapacitated opponent, which is what happened to Kyoko. This is made a bit harder by the fact that contestants are not required to expose their identities but can fight completely anonymously.

Anyway, the Shinji-Asuka-Rei team would use a common "1 forward, 1 midfield, 1 sniper" lineup - though this lineup is considered a Master of None classic; most modern teams eschew one or more positions to specialize, like the Toji-Kensuke-Nozomi team which drops the midfield for a second forward, or the Mana-Musashi-Keita team which goes full midfield.

Who fills which position in the Shinji-Asuka-Rei team should be obvious - though it is considered highly unusual that Rei is so specialized for sniping that she doesn't have even a backup melee weapon. Then in a late-story match, Rei gets cornered while the others are getting slammed, she gets charged by a melee opponent, big explosion knocks up a dust cloud... and her opponent comes violently flying out of the dust cloud, which settles to reveal Rei sporting Glowing Eyes of Doom and wielding a large scythe completely identical to the one Asuka remembers her mother being killed by, which she promptly puts to use to curbstomp her opponent so brutally that said opponent has to be airlifted to the nearest hospital.

As a result of this, Asuka takes a 10-Minute Retirement, declaring that she doesn't give a flying fuck if their team loses and gets eliminated, she will not fight alongside Rei no matter what. So in the next match, Shinji and Rei go up 2-on-3 and lose (though they don't get eliminated; it's pointmatch, not direct elimination). Shinji gets injured and though it's not that severe, Rei blames herself and walks away so that Asuka rejoins (which she does and considers the case closed as far as she's concerned).

What later turns out to have happened is that, unlike the world of Infinite Stratos, the Instant Armor technology here is used in warfare, to pretty devastating effect - while there's an international convention forbidding its use in civilian-populated areas like cities, that's pretty much the only legal regulation it receives. Naturally, some militaries and agencies tried to milk this technology for all it's worth with supersoldier experiments; Rei is one such project, a vat-grown, serial-cloned combat cyborg optimized for the Instant Armor technology and fitted with a subconscious Restraining Bolt Power Limiter. The project itself was shut down after it became clear that while these combat cyborgs are supremely powerful, they're Awesome, but Impractical because once triggered, they stop following orders and battle plans and revert to Crush Kill Destroy After the project was shut down, during the post-shutdown cleanup, the backers snatched up the cryotubes of the remaining clone prototypes and sold them off to the criminal underworld, partly to remove evidence and partly to recoup losses. How Rei ended up as a civilian is unknown and she doesn't remember; she also suffers memory loss of every single time she's triggered, so either she doesn't remember fighting Kyoko because she was triggered or because it was another Rei who did the deed and thus there's nothing to remember.

How's this?

Much cooler than the previous description. I would actually read that.

Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.

Did the first version come across as fan-pandering haremshit?