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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#1: Jul 24th 2011 at 1:47:17 PM

When googling "Bottle Fairy" the first ten pages are all about a completely unrelated anime series. It doesn't seem to be a pre-existing term (save for maybe referring fairies in bottles). The title isn't the clearest if you don't know what it is, and it has no more searchable redirects.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#2: Jul 24th 2011 at 2:06:19 PM

Nice Drunk?

As a redirect, I mean. At 630 wicks, this is pretty well used, and I've never actually seen it as "fairy in a bottle."

INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#3: Jul 24th 2011 at 2:15:55 PM

This, like The Mario, is one of those tropes that I wish had enough misuse to be renamed.

We're probably going to have to settle for redirect farming.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#4: Jul 24th 2011 at 2:21:42 PM

I don't like the fact that it has the same name as a work either. The work has a lot more Google hits.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#5: Jul 24th 2011 at 2:28:22 PM

Happy Drunk Girl

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#6: Jul 24th 2011 at 2:29:02 PM

[up][up]Ah, now that I didn't know. We might actually need a rename, in that case.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#7: Jul 24th 2011 at 2:45:49 PM

Okay, yeah, if its the name of a work, we might be able to get away with a rename. I still like the current one, but if we can come up with a good replacement, then I'm on board. Though we'll still need a single-prop crowner on the subject.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#8: Jul 24th 2011 at 2:50:10 PM

The first ten pages on Google are ALL for the work.

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LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#9: Jul 24th 2011 at 3:00:25 PM

There is now a single proposition rename crowner for this trope here. I am a bit concerned about renaming something with so many wicks, but I think the series is associated more with this name than the trope is. I also agree that the current name is unclear.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#10: Jul 24th 2011 at 3:01:23 PM

Crowner up and hooked.

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Sackett Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Jul 24th 2011 at 3:14:54 PM

I thought it was a pre-existing term.

But I can't find anything on it.

I don't think it's that bad of a term.

She drinks a a lot and usually takes on the role of "fairy helper" for the main character, (albeit usually of the Stop Helping Me kind- possibly because she's drunk).

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#12: Jul 24th 2011 at 3:22:20 PM

I think that it would be a better name if it didn't share a name with a work. And we can be clearer. Happy Drunk Girl is clearer and is the majority of the trope right there. The relationship with the hero isn't needed.

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joeyjojojuniorshabadoo Since: Nov, 2010
#13: Jul 24th 2011 at 3:27:42 PM

Isn't sharing the name with a work (that's not named after the trope) grounds for an automatic rename? Do we need a single-prop crowner here?

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#14: Jul 24th 2011 at 3:30:48 PM

It generally is, but this one is very well established, and at least deserves a crowner.

edited 24th Jul '11 3:47:03 PM by shimaspawn

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#15: Jul 24th 2011 at 3:56:58 PM

I've gotten used to this name, but I've never really liked it, especially since I knew about the series before I came here. Definitely supporting a rename since it shares a name with a work.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#16: Jul 24th 2011 at 3:59:09 PM

Giggling Drunk Girl?

A quick trip to the other wiki confirms that not only is Bottle Fairy an Anime, it's the only definition they've got.

edited 24th Jul '11 4:01:03 PM by Deboss

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#17: Jul 24th 2011 at 4:15:53 PM

[up]The other wiki doesn't generally catalog common phrases, but I checked Wiktionary (which does) and also got no results.

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DoktorvonEurotrash Since: Jan, 2001
#18: Jul 24th 2011 at 4:25:06 PM

I've kind of got used to the name, but it's probably best to rename. It's a snowclone of the work title (which it has nothing to do with), and judging by what people are showing in this thread, this expression doesn't seem to exist off the wiki.

Drunk Party Girl? Still missing something...

SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#19: Jul 24th 2011 at 4:58:22 PM

I'm familiar with the phrase bottle fairy. We've brought this up before, it's a phrase in circulation. Google searches are surely going to be biased towards a work because it looks for how things get cross-referenced right? But it's not a global phrase so the best thing for us is to probably look for conflict. Sample the wicks, check for proportion of "lack of namespacing".

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#21: Jul 24th 2011 at 5:09:46 PM

Well T Vtropes isnt the first time I have heard the term Bottle Fairy I have heard it plenty of times to describe Kitsune in Love Hina and Yukari in Azumanga Daioh etc.

edited 24th Jul '11 5:10:13 PM by Raso

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SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#22: Jul 26th 2011 at 2:09:28 PM

Holy shit.

This is the most surprising result I've ever dealt with. I, because this is something that I figured would be helped by some statistics, so I went and got a random number generator to get me forty numbers and went through them.

I didn't find one reference to the work. I didn't even find one misuse for a literal fairy in a bottle. I thought I did. There was a literal fairy in a bottle. But then I remembered that the fairy in the bottle is the personification of Absinthe and she's a party girl who ends up totally drunk.

Now according to this confidence interval calculator, we are 99% certain that we won't be finding the actual result to be more than 4 off.

Here's the data in the next post.

SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#23: Jul 26th 2011 at 2:26:40 PM

So, to recap, pre-existing phrase, caught on like wildfire, massively to infinitely outnumbers references to the work, no reason to rename.

Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#24: Jul 26th 2011 at 2:32:05 PM

Well thats really good there. (Want to edit that into the crowner?)

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#25: Jul 26th 2011 at 2:32:45 PM

Misuse is not the problem. The problem is that there's a work called that, and the term is better-known for the work than for the trope.

Also, aren't usage statistics generally put under "neutral?"

edited 26th Jul '11 2:33:27 PM by INUH

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